I don't like Playtech

[qqqq2222]

As far as I am concerned playtech are nothing but greedy crooks, It the only casinos were i can never win anything, No play Time, Every spin on slots are lose or below your stake and and any win above stake is rubbish. Ive spent so much over the last few months on different sites using playtech and they all play the same, TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE Then a small crappy win Then TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE , So on, So forth. It the only platform Ive played on were the slots are dead as ice, I bet if a audit was done, it would reveal the payback is only around 5% if you are lucky. I really am not trusting the online gambling industry any more. Maybe i should start up a casino and rip people off as it seems it is easy to get away with. Anyone can get a licence, The so called regulator are taking back handers as far as i am concerned as they sit back and feed the same old rubbish in there autobot replys to email complaints and never take any action and always side with the casinos.

I am losing faith on online gambling, I really feel the odds are really stacked against us players, I know casino owners have control of what a slot pay out, of course they do. And with the stupid T&C i see getting thrown around these days with more and more casinos trying to trap players and get out of paying. It really makes me wonder. As of this moment, I quit online Gambling untill the casinos get there acts together and offer fair and transparent games and stop trying to trap players, and to honour payments. Stop with stupid T&C like irregular playing patterns as excuse not to pay. And stop being do damn greedy, You will lose players in the long run if you set our slots to take and take. Most of us know how the slots work and it not based on randomness.

Absolutely my friend I just hope they get there comeuppance at some point and possibly get compensation
No wonder the owner is a billionaire
what is the difference between scam artists and playtech …..Nothing there is no difference.
Total disgrace ..
Where is the licensing board .
Probably in bed talking back handers ::

 

[thr0b]

If you gamble, you're gonna lose. The speed you lose is partly random chance, and partly decided by the type of games you're playing. But you're never going to end up on top, unless immediately on winning more than you've ever deposited, you withdraw and never play again.

 

[Jono777]

I love it when a really old thread gets bumped and it takes me a few minutes to realise

 

[The Dude]

I love it when a really old thread gets bumped and it takes me a few minutes to realise

Yeah - bumping up 13 year old threads is not really all that great, so I moved this to it's own thread.

@qqqq2222 - this is a really old forum, so try to be aware of the dates of some older threads. Thanks!

 

[jasonuk]

Oh, how we long for "greedy" slot providers offering 96-97% slots...

Admittedly the "irregular play pattern" issue from 2010 would be more of a concern - and some operators, including UKGC-regulated, are still abusing that to this day (either you know exactly what the player has done, or you don't - there is no middle ground).

Saying that, Playtech have tended to be one of the better providers over the years, even if they've made some mistakes such as the lost million-dollar progressive (in short: they paid it to the casino, the casino scammed the player).

Like a lot of providers of late - yet another lightning link clone, three pigs clone or reskin of their own game isn't going to be particularly interesting...

 

[dunover]

Oh, how we long for "greedy" slot providers offering 96-97% slots...

Admittedly the "irregular play pattern" issue from 2010 would be more of a concern - and some operators, including UKGC-regulated, are still abusing that to this day (either you know exactly what the player has done, or you don't - there is no middle ground).

Saying that, Playtech have tended to be one of the better providers over the years, even if they've made some mistakes such as the lost million-dollar progressive (in short: they paid it to the casino, the casino scammed the player).

Like a lot of providers of late - yet another lightning link clone, three pigs clone or reskin of their own game isn't going to be particularly interesting...

Errr... and who was the major beneficiary of the jackpot fraud you refer to?

There was no 'mistake' there at all sadly.

Their (wise admittedly) strategy was hoovering up the big boy bookies in order to provide their casino games, slots and software.

Alas, their games were exposed as the utter crap most of them were. Yep, trademarked themes like Marvel plus numerous movies and ostensibly generous RTP figures were nullified by high progressive contributions and the pernicious lack of deviation in their RTP/volatility aside from a few like Great Blue. So most of their games made it near impossible to retrieve a bankroll when 100-200x behind.

So when the explosion in developers occurred about 10-15 years ago you soon found the bookmaker casinos provided a 'Vegas' menu or similar so their customers weren't committed to one mediocre provider. And that's where 80% of new slot players had their fun, in spite of the contractual obligation of the big sites to tie their deposit bonuses solely to the Playtake casino tab.

I haven't played one of their slots since about 2010 IIRC. Pleased I am about that too.

 

[jasonuk]

Errr... and who was the major beneficiary of the jackpot fraud you refer to?

There was no 'mistake' there at all sadly.

I was about to reply "the casino that scammed the player", but I've just revisited the thread from 2009 which reports allegedly (for legal reasons) the company that ran Joyland Casino was owned by a 41% shareholder of Playtech, who had apparently been sentenced prior for fraud and stock manipulation.

The thread mentioned it happened again with another unrelated casino months prior (which I hadn't heard about before), so when they haven't resolved and/or learned from the problems of the first underpaid jackpot, incompetence or ignorance becomes less of a valid argument, and malice comes to the forefront.

Alas, their games were exposed as the utter crap most of them were. Yep, trademarked themes like Marvel plus numerous movies and ostensibly generous RTP figures were nullified by high progressive contributions and the pernicious lack of deviation in their RTP/volatility aside from a few like Great Blue. So most of their games made it near impossible to retrieve a bankroll when 100-200x behind.

They have some decent games, they also have a lot of dross and clones of dross. They do tend to stick with medium variance games though - there are some higher (by traditional standards) variance games out there, with Great Blue being one, but not too many of them.

Progressive contributions vary wildly by series - AOTG (formerly Marvel) is 0.99%, something like Fortunate Five was 15% iirc. Compared to other providers then (Mega Moolah 8%) and now (Relax Dream Drop 12%) those contributions are generally on the low side and a 95+1% progressive is certainly playable (until it gets nerfed into the ground - as is now happening).

So when the explosion in developers occurred about 10-15 years ago you soon found the bookmaker casinos provided a 'Vegas' menu or similar so their customers weren't committed to one mediocre provider. And that's where 80% of new slot players had their fun, in spite of the contractual obligation of the big sites to tie their deposit bonuses solely to the Playtake casino tab.

I haven't played one of their slots since about 2010 IIRC. Pleased I am about that too.

Indeed, and it's taken more than a decade to streamline that - still a number of sites out there with multiple tabs for slots, whether Playtech slots as a casino tab, or Eyecon slots (via VirtueFusion) as a bingo tab.

 

[satchnz]

…bookmaker casinos provided a 'Vegas' menu or similar…

I always wondered why some of the bookmaker websites have/had a separate Vegas section.