Well UK players 200% Being ripped off!

[dogshead247]

If you though book of dead could not get any worse.

Haven't had a bonus for a very long time. Slots not the same game anymore streamers somehow manage to bonus with ease.

Well for UK players we are offed a 87% rtp version..... why thank you PNG mega grateful you greedy b@stards!

And why not add the continual moan about the misconception of the bonus upgrades on big bass splash and peppes pepperoni pizza plaza bollocks.

Achieved my 21st full upgrade this year on a 1.35 bet on peppes this time and as a huge fail as usual. Returned a epic £6.75 bonus
Just to go all with the other 20 10x and under full upgrade feature bonus

Utter scam and still gobsmacked they aren't being properly investigated and audited.

Surely at some point a marketing violation comes into effect here as your paying extra fees to land the bonus quicker that just no longer is the case and your given the perception that the bonus upgrades improve your chances of a higher return. Which defo is not the case.

Anyways. I'm frazzled. Tilted and utter pissed off at another load of turd sessions that last 10 mins and sometimes seems promising in a big bet bonus that predictably pays 10x

Bosh av it.

This may sound mad but it feels like Pragmatic have an agressive algorithm in place that is designed to tilt you. And rip you a new @hole at the same time.

Peace out

Better luck to the rest of you!

 

[ESCJAMIE]

If you though book of dead could not get any worse.

Haven't had a bonus for a very long time. Slots not the same game anymore streamers somehow manage to bonus with ease.

Well for UK players we are offed a 87% rtp version..... why thank you PNG mega grateful you greedy b@stards!

And why not add the continual moan about the misconception of the bonus upgrades on big bass splash and peppes pepperoni pizza plaza bollocks.

Achieved my 21st full upgrade this year on a 1.35 bet on peppes this time and as a huge fail as usual. Returned a epic £6.75 bonus
Just to go all with the other 20 10x and under full upgrade feature bonus

Utter scam and still gobsmacked they aren't being properly investigated and audited.

Surely at some point a marketing violation comes into effect here as your paying extra fees to land the bonus quicker that just no longer is the case and your given the perception that the bonus upgrades improve your chances of a higher return. Which defo is not the case.

Anyways. I'm frazzled. Tilted and utter pissed off at another load of turd sessions that last 10 mins and sometimes seems promising in a big bet bonus that predictably pays 10x

Bosh av it.

This may sound mad but it feels like Pragmatic have an agressive algorithm in place that is designed to tilt you. And rip you a new @hole at the same time.

Peace out

Better luck to the rest of you!View attachment 210924

Maybe try playing at the other sites in the UK with decent or max RTPS?
Slots Temple offer max RTPS

 

[dunover]

If you though book of dead could not get any worse.

Haven't had a bonus for a very long time. Slots not the same game anymore streamers somehow manage to bonus with ease.

Well for UK players we are offed a 87% rtp version..... why thank you PNG mega grateful you greedy b@stards!

And why not add the continual moan about the misconception of the bonus upgrades on big bass splash and peppes pepperoni pizza plaza bollocks.

Achieved my 21st full upgrade this year on a 1.35 bet on peppes this time and as a huge fail as usual. Returned a epic £6.75 bonus
Just to go all with the other 20 10x and under full upgrade feature bonus

Utter scam and still gobsmacked they aren't being properly investigated and audited.

Surely at some point a marketing violation comes into effect here as your paying extra fees to land the bonus quicker that just no longer is the case and your given the perception that the bonus upgrades improve your chances of a higher return. Which defo is not the case.

Anyways. I'm frazzled. Tilted and utter pissed off at another load of turd sessions that last 10 mins and sometimes seems promising in a big bet bonus that predictably pays 10x

Bosh av it.

This may sound mad but it feels like Pragmatic have an agressive algorithm in place that is designed to tilt you. And rip you a new @hole at the same time.

Peace out

Better luck to the rest of you!View attachment 210924

If you're playing at a site on high volatility games that only have 87% RTP you need to move casinos to one that at least offers 94%, preferably 96%.

 

[Lemon]

What site are you playing on to get an 87% version of BoD? As for the other slot, you shouldn't be playing Reel Kingdom games - they're all shit.

 

[dogshead247]

Maybe try playing at the other sites in the UK with decent or max RTPS?
Slots Temple offer max RTPS

No UK casino offers Max RTP slots. This is my point highlighting this even lower version. If you think I wagered any money after I quickly realised the game was off your wrong. I immediately closed that shit down and close my account. I registered that day because im closing all other accounts offering 94.6% rtp because that's a disgrace and I've had to put up with playing that crap for years now. And it's obvious that the RTP is even lower than advertised. If it wasn't then why has the ability to check RTP in the game server log been removed since videos went live on how to check?

Maybe try playing at the other sites in the UK with decent or max RTPS?
Slots Temple offer max RTPS

 

[dogshead247]

If you're playing at a site on high volatility games that only have 87% RTP you need to move casinos to one that at least offers 94%, preferably 96%.

No UK casino offers Max RTP slots. This is my point highlighting this even lower version. If you think I wagered any money after I quickly realised the game was off your wrong. I immediately closed that shit down and close my account. I registered that day because im closing all other accounts offering 94.6% rtp because that's a disgrace and I've had to put up with playing that crap for years now. And it's obvious that the RTP is even lower than advertised. If it wasn't then why has the ability to check RTP in the game server log been removed since videos went live on how to check?

 

[geordiecolin]

No UK casino offers Max RTP slots. This is my point highlighting this even lower version. If you think I wagered any money after I quickly realised the game was off your wrong. I immediately closed that shit down and close my account. I registered that day because im closing all other accounts offering 94.6% rtp because that's a disgrace and I've had to put up with playing that crap for years now. And it's obvious that the RTP is even lower than advertised. If it wasn't then why has the ability to check RTP in the game server log been removed since videos went live on how to check?

Jamie pointed out to you that Slots Temple offers all of its games on the highest RTP. You must have gone to some lengths to find a UK facing casino that offers such low RTP

 

[ESCJAMIE]

No UK casino offers Max RTP slots. This is my point highlighting this even lower version. If you think I wagered any money after I quickly realised the game was off your wrong. I immediately closed that shit down and close my account. I registered that day because im closing all other accounts offering 94.6% rtp because that's a disgrace and I've had to put up with playing that crap for years now. And it's obvious that the RTP is even lower than advertised. If it wasn't then why has the ability to check RTP in the game server log been removed since videos went live on how to check?

They do, Tbh ive seen a fair few betting sites have max rtps with some providers still But slottemple offers max RTP on all there games

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@Slots Temple If you wanna speake to there rep and find out for yourself

 

[dogshead247]

Jamie pointed out to you that Slots Temple offers all of its games on the highest RTP. You must have gone to some lengths to find a UK facing casino that offers such low RTP

Not at all!
I just simply searched Google for most popular UK casinos 2025. Then opened a new account.

Your comment comes across and perculiary accusational and defense of this type of thing. Which is alarming really tbh.

Yes Jamie has mentioned Slots Temple but this is a post reference to my original post therefore a casino Im not aware of offering max RTP. Which again validates that though you throw this into your feedback, your comments come across as suspiciously accusational.

 

[L&L-Jan]

They do, Tbh ive seen a fair few betting sites have max rtps with some providers still But slottemple offers max RTP on all there games

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@Slots Temple If you wanna speake to there rep and find out for yourself

im extremly disappointed Jamie. You suggst slotstemple but most of your big win screenshot contributions come from L&L casinos.

 

[ESCJAMIE]

Not at all!
I just simply searched Google for most popular UK casinos 2025. Then opened a new account.

Your comment comes across and perculiary accusational and defense of this type of thing. Which is alarming really tbh.

Yes Jamie has mentioned Slots Temple but this is a post reference to my original post therefore a casino Im not aware of offering max RTP. Which again validates that though you throw this into your feedback, your comments come across as suspiciously accusational.

"I just simply searched Google for the most popular UK casinos 2025"

That is where you went wrong; you probably pressed the first link you saw on Google, which would have probably been for a casino "sponsor" result on Google.

But @geordiecolin is right tbh most casinos in the Uk offer 94% RTP on most games and 92%and I must admit ive played on every site going and I don't think ive ever seen such low RTP as what you posted that. Which goes back to my point, be careful what you Google and what you click on.

Like I said before, there is many sites offering max or decent RTPS in the UK. You should try them

 

[ESCJAMIE]

im extremly disappointed Jamie. You suggst slotstemple but most of your big win screenshot contributions come from L&L casinos.

I mean, if I earned commission or a small bonus on referrals, maybe I would have mentioned you

But @L&L-Jan is right

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have decent RTPs and I have had some of my biggest wins there. If you would like to join im sure Jan and give us both somthing

 

[dogshead247]

"I just simply searched Google for the most popular UK casinos 2025"

That is where you went wrong; you probably pressed the first link you saw on Google, which would have probably been for a casino "sponsor" result on Google.

But @geordiecolin is right tbh most casinos in the Uk offer 94% RTP on most games and 92%and I must admit ive played on every site going and I don't think ive ever seen such low RTP as what you posted that. Which goes back to my point, be careful what you Google and what you click on.

Like I said before, there is many sites offering max or decent RTPS in the UK. You should try them

Mate give me a break. No I did not click on the first link. Lmao. Furthermore I do my research. 94.6% rtp on. PnG and Reel Kingdom is not the Max RTP for there games. It's become the norm in the UK because the UKGC are allowing them to lower the RTP that low and as I've evidenced even lower.
The casino I mention is Mr Luck BTW.
Yes hold a remote UKGC casino licence which is currently active. MALTA based of course.

Then not only that the casinos that do advertise 94.6% rtp are definitely lying and hiding behind that because the ability to open the game files has been edited and the RTP file is missing.

If its not the casinos lying you can't tell me they aren't aware of this? Which they will be and still host the provider anyway.

It's a multi billion dollar industry in the UK alone which says it all really.

There is no protection to the UK player and UKGC and all the regulations in place are just a front.

 

[ESCJAMIE]

Mate give me a break. No I did not click on the first link. Lmao. Furthermore I do my research. 94.6% rtp on. PnG and Reel Kingdom is not the Max RTP for there games. It's become the norm in the UK because the UKGC are allowing them to lower the RTP that low and as I've evidenced even lower.
The casino I mention is Mr Luck BTW.
Yes hold a remote UKGC casino licence which is currently active. MALTA based of course.

Then not only that the casinos that do advertise 94.6% rtp are definitely lying and hiding behind that because the ability to open the game files has been edited and the RTP file is missing.

If its not the casinos lying you can't tell me they aren't aware of this? Which they will be and still host the provider anyway.

It's a multi billion dollar industry in the UK alone which says it all really.

There is no protection to the UK player and UKGC and all the regulations in place are just a front.

Never heard of Mrluck tbh Ill have a look now if they are lying about there RTP its worth making a complaint to them.

 

[dogshead247]

I mean, if I earned commission or a small bonus on referrals, maybe I would have mentioned you

But @L&L-Jan is right

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have decent RTPs and I have had some of my biggest wins there. If you would like to join im sure Jan and give us both somthing

Old casinos and ive played them all. Closed all accounts in 2018 when I won 7k on Hyper casino and they automatically restricted my ability to withdraw the maximum when I was ready verified. Was limited to £1000 a day. Which was a dirty tactic.

I also thought advertising brands and putting links to brands in the forum is not allowed?

 

[ESCJAMIE]

Mate give me a break. No I did not click on the first link. Lmao. Furthermore I do my research. 94.6% rtp on. PnG and Reel Kingdom is not the Max RTP for there games. It's become the norm in the UK because the UKGC are allowing them to lower the RTP that low and as I've evidenced even lower.
The casino I mention is Mr Luck BTW.
Yes hold a remote UKGC casino licence which is currently active. MALTA based of course.

Then not only that the casinos that do advertise 94.6% rtp are definitely lying and hiding behind that because the ability to open the game files has been edited and the RTP file is missing.

If its not the casinos lying you can't tell me they aren't aware of this? Which they will be and still host the provider anyway.

It's a multi billion dollar industry in the UK alone which says it all really.

There is no protection to the UK player and UKGC and all the regulations in place are just a front.

"Then not only that the casinos that do advertise 94.6% rtp are definitely lying

I mean if all casinos are gonna lie about RTP I don't think they would go for 94% they would say their games are 96%. Most UK casinos do not lie about their RTP, Tbf to some of them I've had emails in the past telling me that RTP on some games is changing and lowering. I think you just had bad luck at this place mate. there are many other sites out there legit you can try

 

[ESCJAMIE]

Old casinos and ive played them all. Closed all accounts in 2018 when I won 7k on Hyper casino and they automatically restricted my ability to withdraw the maximum when I was ready verified. Was limited to £1000 a day. Which was a dirty tactic.

I also thought advertising brands and putting links to brands in the forum is not allowed?

I was kidding about you joining them and us getting something; it doesn't work like that here.
Dont be a dick and try and get me in trouble all ive done is try and help you and tell you what casinos you can try that have max or good Rtps

 

[dogshead247]

Never heard of Mrluck tbh Ill have a look now if they are lying about there RTP its worth making a complaint to them.

They are not lying about the RTP I screenshot in my original post.

 

[ESCJAMIE]

They are not lying about the RTP I screenshot in my original post.

Aha you're right, my bad! So they had their RTP there for you to see, and you chose to play on their site still and came here to moan instead of withdrawing your funds and going elsewhere. I misunderstood I thought they advertised a higher RTP than they had, cause you went on to talk about how casinos lie about having high RTPs.

 

[dogshead247]

"Then not only that the casinos that do advertise 94.6% rtp are definitely lying

I mean if all casinos are gonna lie about RTP I don't think they would go for 94% they would say their games are 96%. Most UK casinos do not lie about their RTP, Tbf to some of them I've had emails in the past telling me that RTP on some games is changing and lowering. I think you just had bad luck at this place mate. there are many other sites out there legit you can try

No I've been slotting since 2009 played all the casinos out there. Continually closing them all down. You comment as if you know me or im a newbie slotter. I'm not. I just actively spend my life in a forum to gain status etc. Your own due diligence on my account here would insight you to that.

If you really did due diligence on me you would know I brought the Smartlive Gaming Scandel to light and helped thousands take action.

I'm just a normal guy who enjoys gambling but like to play in an honest and fair environment and if I find things unfair and unjust I'll do my best to make others aware to help them make informed decisions and protect them. After all nobody else is looking out for us.

 

[L&L-Jan]

Was limited to £1000 a day. Which was a dirty tactic.

maybe method related? In 2018 by default the max limit was 5k per transaction. But you're welcome to win such amount again and ill show you how we process that in one go

 

[dogshead247]

Aha you're right, my bad! So they had their RTP there for you to see, and you chose to play on their site still and came here to moan instead of withdrawing your funds and going elsewhere. I misunderstood I thought they advertised a higher RTP than they had, cause you went on to talk about how casinos lie about having high RTPs.g

Haha no,

So accusationary again. You cannot see the RTP until you open an account. And how do you know I never withdrew the the remainder of my deposit after noting this RTP version?

You dont do you. The fact you already jockingly made reference to potentially obtaining commission or a bonus fee for posting Big wins on your L&L branded casinos then openenly sales pitched them and both L&L brand and Mr Luck are Malta based. Your input in this thread bears no value and is null and void.

 

[dogshead247]

I was kidding about you joining them and us getting something; it doesn't work like that here.
Dont be a dick and try and get me in trouble all ive done is try and help you and tell you what casinos you can try that have max or good Rtps

Not being a dick. Just pointing out the facts of the threads conversation history.

 

[dogshead247]

maybe method related? In 2018 by default the max limit was 5k per transaction. But you're welcome to win such amount again and ill show you how we process that in one go

No thanks. Was not method related either. I deposited via PayPal and requested withdrawal to PayPal. Got burned once. Never again!

 

[slot_zombie]

Basically slots temple or quinnbet both are on max RTP (oddly QB didn't used to be) - QB not running Play n Go though.

 

[geordiecolin]

Aha you're right, my bad! So they had their RTP there for you to see, and you chose to play on their site still and came here to moan instead of withdrawing your funds and going elsewhere. I misunderstood I thought they advertised a higher RTP than they had, cause you went on to talk about how casinos lie about having high RTPs.

Careful Jamie he could be SAS

 

[dunover]

Old casinos and ive played them all. Closed all accounts in 2018 when I won 7k on Hyper casino and they automatically restricted my ability to withdraw the maximum when I was ready verified. Was limited to £1000 a day. Which was a dirty tactic.

I also thought advertising brands and putting links to brands in the forum is not allowed?

Since 2020-21 UKGC sites cannot limit withdrawals in that way, and I don't believe Hyper limited them to 1k per day either in 2018.

If you look around the forum there are many casinos offering top RTPs, although many now don't and are 94% or even a derisory sub-94% in some cases.

Slots Temple have my old favourite Twin Spin on 99% apparently!

 

[dogshead247]

Since 2020-21 UKGC sites cannot limit withdrawals in that way, and I don't believe Hyper limited them to 1k per day either in 2018.

If you look around the forum there are many casinos offering top RTPs, although many now don't and are 94% or even a derisory sub-94% in some cases.

Slots Temple have my old favourite Twin Spin on 99% apparently!

Well they did mate. That's why I closed it down and never reopened and closed all sister companies down. The win came from a 5k hit on wild desire immortal romance £3 stake and i built up to 7k with wins on Jurassic Park, Bonanza and a few other. Ironically with my withdrawal limited over the course of two days I blew 5k on Extra Chilli bonus buys.

Sorry had to edit this. As if my memory serves me correctly weren't you affiliated with Hyper Casino back then? And me constantly watching your YouTube Videos I thought id try them out!

Thank sucked Big time.

 

[dunover]

Well they did mate. That's why I closed it down and never reopened and closed all sister companies down. The win came from a 5k hit on wild desire immortal romance £3 stake and i built up to 7k with wins on Jurassic Park, Bonanza and a few other. Ironically with my withdrawal limited over the course of two days I blew 5k on Extra Chilli bonus buys.

Sorry had to edit this. As if my memory serves me correctly weren't you affiliated with Hyper Casino back then? And me constantly watching your YouTube Videos I thought id try them out!

Thank sucked Big time.

I don't recall playing at Hyper on any of my old YT videos but did promote them (and still do) but I can't say for certain that I promoted them as far back as 2018.

After checking:

I started with them back in 2019 but that was 4-5 months after my original channel on YT closed.

So if you saw someone streaming or doing videos from Hyper, I am not sure it would have been me!

 

[dogshead247]

I don't recall playing at Hyper on any of my old YT videos but did promote them (and still do) but I can't say for certain that I promoted them as far back as 2018.

After checking:

I started with them back in 2019 but that was 4-5 months after my original channel on YT closed.

So if you saw someone streaming or doing videos from Hyper, I am not sure it would have been me!

That'll be it then. I'm just a year out with my statement. We all live lives that are fast paced and forever changing and memory can bit a little fogged and reference is needed to help remember. I remember it well because you were super pissed at having to start up all over again and adhere to responsible gambling guidelines for affiliates. Id send you an email about that specific incident or something similar where a similar circumstance occurred back then.

Just going through my emails now and unfortunately dont have record anymore because I use hotmail. Those cheeky twats at Microsoft charge you now for extra storage lol. So of course I outright refused and lost alot of emails and stuff!

 

[L&L-Jan]

Well they did mate. That's why I closed it down and never reopened and closed all sister companies down. The win came from a 5k hit on wild desire immortal romance £3 stake and i built up to 7k with wins on Jurassic Park, Bonanza and a few other. Ironically with my withdrawal limited over the course of two days I blew 5k on Extra Chilli bonus buys.

Sorry had to edit this. As if my memory serves me correctly weren't you affiliated with Hyper Casino back then? And me constantly watching your YouTube Videos I thought id try them out!

Thank sucked Big time.

doesnt make sense mate, ive been managing our operations since 2012 and I always had the approach: Customer first.

Please send a PM with email address you used to the account. Hopefully I still have the data as 5 years have passed but if you imposed a self-exclusion, im sure I have.

Please share as that 1k max per day, does NOT make any sense in my head.

Thanks in advance and sorry for that experience. We really try to be good for customers, there is enough proof on this forum to back that comment up.

Thanks in advance!

Kr. Jan

 

[dogshead247]

doesnt make sense mate, ive been managing our operations since 2012 and I always had the approach: Customer first.

Please send a PM with email address you used to the account. Hopefully I still have the data as 5 years have passed but if you imposed a self-exclusion, im sure I have.

Please share as that 1k max per day, does NOT make any sense in my head.

Thanks in advance and sorry for that experience. We really try to be good for customers, there is enough proof on this forum to back that comment up.

Thanks in advance!

Kr. Jan

Hi Jan,

Please see attached. The screenshots show that I have made 2 deposits. One was a match bonus which I belive is where the big win came from. However deposit dates and game history search dates match up but surprisingly there is no game data recorded.

 

[dogshead247]

Hi Jan,

Please see attached. The screenshots show that I have made 2 deposits. One was a match bonus which I belive is where the big win came from. However deposit dates and game history search dates match up but surprisingly there is no game data recorded.

@L&L-Jan

Id happily give you my email address. However if I dont have the game history. Then surely you dont. If you do then it begs the question why is it not disclosed to me the account holder?

 

[BillyGoldblum]

This thread is full of "you are ignoring content by this member". Glad the ignore feature is working.

If you open up the ? and there is no rtp listed -- leave. Its likely 91% or lower.



Casinos are pretty sneaky and dirty bud.

If the casino was hiding the rtp, you could left click on inspect and find it that way. Casinos found out and reported it to playngo and they had it removed so we can no longer see the rtp setting.

Crazy playngo are allowing 87% rtp models.

I remember catching tsars doing that one time. all on 88% rtp. I opened up chat and asked for my account to be closed. Not sure if they changed ownership but im pretty sure they have all been raised to 94 or 96%

 

[kg2025]

I done a few deposits on Slingo , reactoonz and gigantoonz are 91% rtp . Fuxk that .

 

[L&L-Jan]

@L&L-Jan

Id happily give you my email address. However if I dont have the game history. Then surely you dont. If you do then it begs the question why is it not disclosed to me the account holder?

That is not needed since I saw your firstname on a screenshot

So what you described I found 0.0 of that. Looking at the gross result on your account, there was never a win of 7k. So I went to check OUR customer interaction log: 0.0 presence.
That's impossible, why wouldnt you start a chat with us if we limit withdrawal amount right?

So that made me realise, that didn't happen with L&L EUrope Ltd!

HyperCasino started as a whitelabel on the bethard platform. The guys were struggling there to make it profitable and they asked if we could bring Hyper to the L&L platform. We agreed to do so.
So what you described happened on the bethard platform.

Your registration date is:

2019-08-23 19:06:44
And you said it was 2018. So all ads up now. We don't limit players to 1k withdrawals.

 

[dunover]

That is not needed since I saw your firstname on a screenshot

So what you described I found 0.0 of that. Looking at the gross result on your account, there was never a win of 7k. So I went to check OUR customer interaction log: 0.0 presence.
That's impossible, why wouldnt you start a chat with us if we limit withdrawal amount right?

So that made me realise, that didn't happen with L&L EUrope Ltd!

HyperCasino started as a whitelabel on the bethard platform. The guys were struggling there to make it profitable and they asked if we could bring Hyper to the L&L platform. We agreed to do so.
So what you described happened on the bethard platform.

Your registration date is:

2019-08-23 19:06:44
And you said it was 2018. So all ads up now. We don't limit players to 1k withdrawals.

That figures with me too as I have subsequently checked all my old videos and never did I make one playing at Hyper that I can see. (as was said earlier)

I also started promoting Hyper well after they became an L&L property therefore I could not have played with them before my original channel closed in Aug 2018 and have not done either so on the newer channel.

Some wires crossed here by the OP.

 

[dogshead247]

This thread is full of "you are ignoring content by this member". Glad the ignore feature is working.

If you open up the ? and there is no rtp listed -- leave. Its likely 91% or lower.



Casinos are pretty sneaky and dirty bud.

If the casino was hiding the rtp, you could left click on inspect and find it that way. Casinos found out and reported it to playngo and they had it removed so we can no longer see the rtp setting.

Crazy playngo are allowing 87% rtp models.

I remember catching tsars doing that one time. all on 88% rtp. I opened up chat and asked for my account to be closed. Not sure if they changed ownership but im pretty sure they have all been raised to 94 or 96%

Exactly what I've said. And as you correctly pointed out. It's been completely ignored. I'm not stupid or naive. I know what's going on.

My post was not a moan but set out to inform any new players that dont know how bad and sneaky things are.

Correct the inspect element has been negated by PnG etc. I just couldn't rember it was the inspect element so named it game files in my post. Same thing.

They knew what I ment.

I don't stat at those casinos but there has been two that I've stayed quite true to for 2 years now that are heading down that slippery soap and I've just closed both of those too.

Mr Hand Pays YouTube video is an insight into what a lot of us already knew. I'm expecting to see a lot of backlash derive from that.

They industry always made enough money without having to become even more greedy.

Only one thing will happen if it continues to go this way.

 

[dunover]

Well, if a provider is complicit in allowing casinos to wilfully deceive by means of being able to advertise an RTP figure and then remove the means of checking it from the consumer side, then something is really wrong.

 

[dogshead247]

That is not needed since I saw your firstname on a screenshot

So what you described I found 0.0 of that. Looking at the gross result on your account, there was never a win of 7k. So I went to check OUR customer interaction log: 0.0 presence.
That's impossible, why wouldnt you start a chat with us if we limit withdrawal amount right?

So that made me realise, that didn't happen with L&L EUrope Ltd!

HyperCasino started as a whitelabel on the bethard platform. The guys were struggling there to make it profitable and they asked if we could bring Hyper to the L&L platform. We agreed to do so.
So what you described happened on the bethard platform.

Your registration date is:

2019-08-23 19:06:44
And you said it was 2018. So all ads up now. We don't limit players to 1k withdrawals.

I did contact support and chat. Had it out with them big time

So please explain to me why there is no game history when I log into my account but you can apparently see it all?

 

[dogshead247]

That is not needed since I saw your firstname on a screenshot

So what you described I found 0.0 of that. Looking at the gross result on your account, there was never a win of 7k. So I went to check OUR customer interaction log: 0.0 presence.
That's impossible, why wouldnt you start a chat with us if we limit withdrawal amount right?

So that made me realise, that didn't happen with L&L EUrope Ltd!

HyperCasino started as a whitelabel on the bethard platform. The guys were struggling there to make it profitable and they asked if we could bring Hyper to the L&L platform. We agreed to do so.
So what you described happened on the bethard platform.

Your registration date is:

2019-08-23 19:06:44
And you said it was 2018. So all ads up now. We don't limit players to 1k withdrawals.

I did contact support and chat. Had it out with them big time

So please explain to me why there is no game history when I log into my account but you can apparently see it all.

I also see no history of Hyper casino being on the bethard platform?

Maybe you could direct me to this.

 

[L&L-Jan]

I did contact support and chat. Had it out with them big time

So please explain to me why there is no game history when I log into my account but you can apparently see it all.

I also see no history of Hyper casino being on the bethard platform?

Maybe you could direct me to this.

HyperCasino prior to January 2019 was running on a different platform owned by a different company; bethard. Therefore we don't have that data. They also used a different customer interaction / ticket system as we did. Hence I have no history on our system too.

So basically your hyper experience was with different operator as L&L.

As for the game rounds/history. That gets archived if customer is inacitve for a year. We only keep the totals in that case.

 

[dogshead247]

HyperCasino prior to January 2019 was running on a different platform owned by a different company; bethard. Therefore we don't have that data. They also used a different customer interaction / ticket system as we did. Hence I have no history on our system too.

So basically your hyper experience was with different operator as L&L.

As for the game rounds/history. That gets archived if customer is inacitve for a year. We only keep the totals in that case.

HyperCasino prior to January 2019 was running on a different platform owned by a different company; bethard. Therefore we don't have that data. They also used a different customer interaction / ticket system as we did. Hence I have no history on our system too.

So basically your hyper experience was with different operator as L&L.

As for the game rounds/history. That gets archived if customer is inacitve for a year. We only keep the totals in that case.

Conveniently.
Ill PM my account username so we are both on the right page. As I have no access to my gaming history anymore as provided. Could you kindly gather this data for me and send to my registered email address?

This can then be put to bed

 

[dunover]

Exactly what I've said. And as you correctly pointed out. It's been completely ignored. I'm not stupid or naive. I know what's going on.

My post was not a moan but set out to inform any new players that dont know how bad and sneaky things are.

Correct the inspect element has been negated by PnG etc. I just couldn't rember it was the inspect element so named it game files in my post. Same thing.

They knew what I ment.

I don't stat at those casinos but there has been two that I've stayed quite true to for 2 years now that are heading down that slippery soap and I've just closed both of those too.

Mr Hand Pays YouTube video is an insight into what a lot of us already knew. I'm expecting to see a lot of backlash derive from that.

They industry always made enough money without having to become even more greedy.

Only one thing will happen if it continues to go this way.

Does this not work anymore on PNG slots?

Post in thread 'Is possible to check curently used under curacao licensed sites real RTP% they use for net ent slots or playngo ?'

May 17, 2022

Recently some slot providers (including Play'n Go) did indeed stop displaying the RTP in the game manual, since it is not a legal requirement for Curaçao-licensed casino's. On the operator's request, it can be brought back, so you can always reach-out to your Curaçao-casino and request it.

If you don't want to bother with that or do not trust them, as far as I know, this is still a bullet-proof way of verifying the RTP via PnG slots:

1. Open Chrome and Pres F12 to open the chrome developer tools
2. Open-up a Play'n GO slot and wait until it is fully loaded
3. Go to network tab
4. In...

• arcanebet

• 

 

[BillyGoldblum]

Well, if a provider is complicit in allowing casinos to wilfully deceive by means of being able to advertise an RTP figure and then remove the means of checking it from the consumer side, then something is really wrong.

I remember when I opened up live chat a couple times and asked why are you running rtp on playngo on 88% rtp. They said to me "how do you know? how can you see the rtp?" They were asking all kinds of questions. I sent them a picture showing them the setting of 88% through the inspect code files.

A few weeks later that method of viewing rtp was completely removed from playngo slots after being there since the beginning of playngo.

 

[BillyGoldblum]

Does this not work anymore on PNG slots?

Post in thread 'Is possible to check curently used under curacao licensed sites real RTP% they use for net ent slots or playngo ?'

May 17, 2022

Recently some slot providers (including Play'n Go) did indeed stop displaying the RTP in the game manual, since it is not a legal requirement for Curaçao-licensed casino's. On the operator's request, it can be brought back, so you can always reach-out to your Curaçao-casino and request it.

If you don't want to bother with that or do not trust them, as far as I know, this is still a bullet-proof way of verifying the RTP via PnG slots:

1. Open Chrome and Pres F12 to open the chrome developer tools
2. Open-up a Play'n GO slot and wait until it is fully loaded
3. Go to network tab
4. In...

• arcanebet

• 

No that is what the removed. It used to be in this coding.

 

[steakfortea]

No UK casino offers Max RTP slots. This is my point highlighting this even lower version. If you think I wagered any money after I quickly realised the game was off your wrong. I immediately closed that shit down and close my account. I registered that day because im closing all other accounts offering 94.6% rtp because that's a disgrace and I've had to put up with playing that crap for years now. And it's obvious that the RTP is even lower than advertised. If it wasn't then why has the ability to check RTP in the game server log been removed since videos went live on how to check?

They're is slots temple has every slot on the top rtp great site btw @Slots Temple

 

[dogshead247]

They're is slots temple has every slot on the top rtp great site btw @Slots Temple

I've recently signed up. Seems ok so far but only played one small session. Therefore im not going to judge.

 

[slot_zombie]

Quinnbet also has max RTP on most slots except a few random Playtechs.

 

[Roll_TheDiceX]

Oof, I feel you. That sounds brutal, especially after putting in all those upgrades and not seeing anything worthwhile. It’s frustrating when games feel like they’re working against you instead of giving a fair shot. Hopefully things turn around soon and you land a proper big win. Hang in there!