Are Trademark Violations being condoned by Casino Affiliate Programs?

[The Dude]

Reward - for the person who correctly identifies who the webmaster is of this domain: aussiesussexmskpartnershipeast.com

Normally, if someone violates my intellectual property (Casinomeister), I send an email to the affiliate programs who are being promoted there - and these affiliate programs have taken swift action against rogue affiliates - usually by closing their accounts (as per their posted affiliate terms and conditions). This cuts down on lawyers' fees, and is actually quite effective.

Yet this time, things seem to be a bit different. I have notified the following affiliate programs - those of which that are being promoted on the offending site:
Referback
Fortune Affiliates
Wagershare
FocalClick

The manager of each one of these programs has told me either that they would not get themselves involved - Wagershare even referred me to WIPO (!). Focalclick told me they were looking into this. So much for having a 13-15 year business relationship with each one of these programs.

But what makes me livid as hell is that each one of these affiliate programs has a term that was mutually agreed upon between the affiliate and the program:

Any form of traffic that is generated from any medium that is aimed at children, promotes violence, promotes discrimination based on race, sex, religion, nationality, disability, sexual orientation, or age, promotes illegal activities, or violates intellectual property rights ... constitutes a breach of agreement.

Where was the due diligence? Any webmaster signing up at one of these programs is required to submit his or her domains, right? Why did these slip by?

And why isn't this term being enforced?

You would think that an affiliate program with a 15 year business relationship with someone would enforce this term against an intellectual property thief.

So anyway, I'm hoping that someone here will come forward and identify the person or person(s) behind aussiesussexmskpartnershipeast.com. Thanks!

This should be interesting.

Actually I posted this at Facebook - and have some pretty interesting leads. But I'm posting this here as well since we have a different audience.

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

I don't know why but have bad feeling that it will be someone who is an active member here at Casinomeister. I have found a bit but only that seems it would be England - Kent area. I have couple contacts as we;; who might be able to find more info. But I am sure Mesiter Bryan will have much more than me in no time

 

[mattsgame]

Reward - for the person who correctly identifies who the webmaster is of this domain: aussiesussexmskpartnershipeast.com

Normally, if someone violates my intellectual property (Casinomeister), I send an email to the affiliate programs who are being promoted there - and these affiliate programs have taken swift action against rogue affiliates - usually by closing their accounts (as per their posted affiliate terms and conditions). This cuts down on lawyers' fees, and is actually quite effective.

Yet this time, things seem to be a bit different. I have notified the following affiliate programs - those of which that are being promoted on the offending site:
Referback
Fortune Affiliates
Wagershare
FocalClick

The manager of each one of these programs has told me either that they would not get themselves involved - Wagershare even referred me to WIPO (!). Focalclick told me they were looking into this. So much for having a 13-15 year business relationship with each one of these programs.

But what makes me livid as hell is that each one of these affiliate programs has a term that was mutually agreed upon between the affiliate and the program:



Where was the due diligence? Any webmaster signing up at one of these programs is required to submit his or her domains, right? Why did these slip by?

And why isn't this term being enforced?

You would think that an affiliate program with a 15 year business relationship with someone would enforce this term against an intellectual property thief.

So anyway, I'm hoping that someone here will come forward and identify the person or person(s) behind aussiesussexmskpartnershipeast.com. Thanks!

This should be interesting.

Actually I posted this at Facebook - and have some pretty interesting leads. But I'm posting this here as well since we have a different audience.

Since Casinomeister is trademarked then yes these programs should be doing something. If it was not and just another generic portal I do not think you would have to much leg way.

I only work with 2 of the 4 programs you mentioned and even the 2 I am currently working with I am watching carefully, since Elliott left Focal click they seem to be very slow at responding to issues. If Elliott was still there I have no doubt he would have sorted this for you. As for the 2 I do not work with, this does not surprise me at all.

The link profile of that site above is well spammy as hell.

The same person also has a few other domains:

1. xhttp://freeaustralianslots.com/x
2. xhttp://pokiesfinder.com/x - this one makes me laugh Registered Trademark of GamingMedia (yet they don't respect others)
3. xhttp://australianonlineblackjack.com/x

Have not found who owns it as yet but will keep digging

Edit: I forgot to add and I cannot remember how I linked it now but this site xhttps://freebnc.co.uk/x came up in my travels.

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

I found some as well MAttsgame.

I found connection as well to this website which might bring us even closer

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[pokeraddict]

There is no doubt in my mind that most affiliate programs and the industry as a whole do not care about this problem. I covered two incidents last year where online gaming affiliates copied my work and that of others word for word on their news sites and presented it as their own. One went so far as to publish an article of mine in their magazine without permission or attribution. When approached privately about the situation, neither responded, so I wrote a column about them.

One cared so little about the content theft that he sent a lawyer after me, not even bothering to remove the obviously copied content first. To the best of my knowledge, most or all of the advertisers of each site in question remained.

I am happy to support any cause that draws attention to the problem. I feel that affiliate programs should not be supporting these sites that try to profit off the hard work of others.

Edit: These are just two extreme examples of content thieves. I sent emails/DMCAs to a dozen or so others in the past year that quickly removed the offending content.

 

[Igor82]

You can order domain tools llc history report for 49$.

That will give you registrar info history before domin privacy was bought.

I think I have pokiesfinder in the system but I'll have to check from the office tomorrow

Igor

 

[spintee]

maybe this might lead you somewhere?

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[mattsgame]

maybe this might lead you somewhere?

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This is why I referred to it having spammy links. They have 100's of blog links and what appears to be a few links hacked into sites.

 

[ThePOGG]

CM please keep me updated with regard to this one - I'll pull links to any program that does not take action against this site. Not acceptable behaviour at all. I'm due to have a over due conversation with focal click (they're waiting on a response from me) about taking on my Deposit Guarantee seal so I really hope that they are taking this seriously.

Thanks

ThePOGG

 

[P.V.]

Looks like hacked links to me too. Here's this sites info: Outdated URL (timeout)

I'd be looking at the AU site's using CasinoMeister within their descriptions for their sites, I've seen a few.

Oh BTW - The about Sturan page has another domain that goes to the same page. XXhttp://XXwww.australianonlineslots.com/

Same layout as the link CM provided.

 

[MillyOfLeValley]

Reward - for the person who correctly identifies who the webmaster is of this domain: aussiesussexmskpartnershipeast.com

Normally, if someone violates my intellectual property (Casinomeister), I send an email to the affiliate programs who are being promoted there - and these affiliate programs have taken swift action against rogue affiliates - usually by closing their accounts (as per their posted affiliate terms and conditions). This cuts down on lawyers' fees, and is actually quite effective.

Yet this time, things seem to be a bit different. I have notified the following affiliate programs - those of which that are being promoted on the offending site:
Referback
Fortune Affiliates
Wagershare
FocalClick

The manager of each one of these programs has told me either that they would not get themselves involved - Wagershare even referred me to WIPO (!). Focalclick told me they were looking into this. So much for having a 13-15 year business relationship with each one of these programs.

But what makes me livid as hell is that each one of these affiliate programs has a term that was mutually agreed upon between the affiliate and the program:



Where was the due diligence? Any webmaster signing up at one of these programs is required to submit his or her domains, right? Why did these slip by?

And why isn't this term being enforced?

You would think that an affiliate program with a 15 year business relationship with someone would enforce this term against an intellectual property thief.

So anyway, I'm hoping that someone here will come forward and identify the person or person(s) behind aussiesussexmskpartnershipeast.com. Thanks!

This should be interesting.

Actually I posted this at Facebook - and have some pretty interesting leads. But I'm posting this here as well since we have a different audience.

Thing with affiliate programs, more often than not, as long as they're making money they won't budge and will merely turn a blind eye to transgressions like this.

On the trademark issue, there was a recent article that came out in South Africa about how Polo which has high-end stores all over the country is not associated with the US Ralph Lauren brand AT ALL.
This company has a very similar logo and runs with the word Polo in exactly the same font as the Ralph Lauren brand.
What transpired is that this Polo company has the LOCAL trademark in South Africa so they can use it in the country and Ralph Lauren is actually not allowed to sell any of its products in the country.
Theres a similar story in South Africa with the American brand JCrew.
Theres a company that owns the JCrew Local trademark and many consumers have purchased from there on the premise that it is the US Brand.

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I'm not sure how things work everywhere else so not sure if a local trademark can come into play in this issue.

Its situations like these that make things sticky and down right unfair that someone is piggybacking on the strength of your trademark that you built up to what it is.
Hope you get it resolved.

 

[P.V.]

Thing with affiliate programs, more often than not, as long as they're making money they won't budge and will merely turn a blind eye to transgressions like this.

On the trademark issue, there was a recent article that came out in South Africa about how Polo which has high-end stores all over the country is not associated with the US Ralph Lauren brand AT ALL.
This company has a very similar logo and runs with the word Polo in exactly the same font as the Ralph Lauren brand.
What transpired is that this Polo company has the LOCAL trademark in South Africa so they can use it in the country and Ralph Lauren is actually not allowed to sell any of its products in the country.
Theres a similar story in South Africa with the American brand JCrew.
Theres a company that owns the JCrew Local trademark and many consumers have purchased from there on the premise that it is the US Brand.

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I'm not sure how things work everywhere else so not sure if a local trademark can come into play in this issue.

Its situations like these that make things sticky and down right unfair that someone is piggybacking on the strength of your trademark that you built up to what it is.
Hope you get it resolved.

It's a thin line for sure, here's a good read on Trademarks:

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[Simmo!]

... I have found a bit but only that seems it would be England - Kent area.

Kent used to be lovely - known as the Garden Of England - but you may be right: we now have a shanty town called Tonbridge which is full of people who might do this sort of thing.

 

[Igor82]

WhoIS Report

What i could dig up for you so far:

View attachment AussieCasinoMeister-com-2014-05-10.pdf

It's not much-but it's a start.The site isnt on our affiliate database unfortunately.

I would suggest you start by reaching out to namesilo.com to shut the site down and to limenex for the same reason. perhaps they can (or cannot) disclose purchaser but they can definitely do something about copyright infringement.

Igor

 

[Igor82]

Kent used to be lovely - known as the Garden Of England - but you may be right: we now have a shanty town called Tonbridge which is full of people who might do this sort of thing.

Kent is the location of his server company:

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- might have nothing to do with the culprit.

 

[premiergaming]

It seems that the Aussie Casinomeister is one of the new sites from this Affiliate. So maybe the affiliate programs do not even know about this as he or she may have just added the same trackers as on there other sites which means there affiliate managers wont know.

 

[Igor82]

Message from homerbert:

hello
i can't post in this thread: Link Outdated / Removed , post it from me pls, thanks.

i do some job, and here is easiest way to catch him
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owner can not be identified by no any ways.

But i decide to analyze sites, which linked on this site, and after few checks and clicking on links, i found that he has even network of such sites, few examples:

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and more, more, more, almost all for same casinost, BUT:

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here is your chance, there is 32red / mr.green.

Hope it helps

Igor

 

[Igor82]

and a message from osulle

Hi Igor, I have been following this thread intently as I find this whole situation quit alarming. Anyway this morning I looked up the info on whois for the aussiecasinomeister and found the same info as you. The Phoenix, AZ address listed is a UPS store so I am sure it's just a mailbox there and the phone number is a VOIP from New York. I can't post in the thread but if you could post this for me I would appreciate it. So the servers are in Kent and address is in AZ and phone number is NY. This guy is very good at covering his tracks. I hope he gets found the miserable SOB that he is.


Thanks Igor

 

[Simmo!]

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Another brand rip-off.

I wonder if this is linked to that thing recently where some d!ck was hacking Wordpresss sites - he copied the design of Casino Choice and this site above looks similar in style.

 

[chayton]

Another brand rip-off.

I wonder if this is linked to that thing recently where some d!ck was hacking Wordpresss sites - he copied the design of Casino Choice and this site above looks similar in style.

Some of those wordpress sites had hacked themes they put up to free sites or on torrent sites so anyone who downloaded and used them were prehacked.

That casinoman site sidebar...



but there's also an email address at the bottom, so in that way it doesn't look the same as the others.

 

[bonustreak]

I am shocked to say the least that these long time Microgaming affiliate programs are not helping but then again almost everyone of them that you have listed have gone to the shady side themselves. Back in the day we
all had each others backs in this industry & it sickens me to see Bryan treated like this by those very same programs who at one time or another have ran to him for help!
This ass clown is no doubt bringing them massive amounts of traffic & new players so they don't want to get involved..

Focal I am a bit shocked if they do not help, I think out of all of them Chris will make sure this person is slapped, and the affiliate account is closed.

Igor your really a great person for looking so much into this & 32 Red I know will be in Bryan's side here! There are some good Micrograming brands around with good morels & integrity!!

 

[maphesto]

xaussiesussexmskpartnershipeast.comx is now redirected to xhttp://exquisitecasinos.com/x

Something might have changed between the affiliate and one of the affiliate programs.

 

[K2C]

It's not just a redirect. The exquisitecasinos.com domain was registered yesterday:

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So they just changed the web address, changed the copyright string in the footer and preserved the rest of it I believe. Here is the google cache of aussiesussexmskpartnershipeast.com as of May 9

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All the affiliate links seem to be the same too. For example, for Royal Vegas casino the old link was aussiesussexmskpartnershipeast.com/au/royalvegas and the new one is exquisitecasinos.com/au/royalvegas and they both lead to au.royalvegascasino.com/aff/aus/btag-ad484870

 

[paul@bgo]

We just wouldn't pay them until they stopped being childish. Sad fact is Bryan that many of the smaller operators are more focussed on exposure rather than quality of traffic, so they probably won't care

 

[The Dude]

I was away this weekend, and at the moment have a lot of material to comb through. Thanks to my fellow webmaster snoops, I'm piecing a lot of this together. It's not the work of one affiliate - it's a company as far as I can tell. A company that seems to have carte blanche to do whatever they want. If that's the case, well so be it. But if there is any hint of anything Casinomeister-like, it won't be happy tunes for them.

As a side note, I am really surprised that more webmasters have not done anything to protect their own brands. There are scores of them - BonusStreak, KasinoKing, AskGamblers, CasinoCity, etc., etc., and they are all sitting around like sitting ducks that sit. It would take a crew of black hat SEO f***ers to ruin their day. Seriously, am I the only one who has a (more or less) protected brand?

 

[Webzcas]

What are the odds that the same individual/s or company was and is also behind this https://sussexmskpartnershipeast.com/forums/threads/iatld-site-hacked-to-promote-casinos.56276/

 

[maphesto]

What are the odds that the same individual/s or company was and is also behind this https://sussexmskpartnershipeast.com/forums/threads/iatld-site-hacked-to-promote-casinos.56276/

The sites mentioned in this post is recognized in this "aussiecasinomeister" thing.

Checking links from "xxaussiesussexmskpartnershipeast.com" /"xxhttp://exquisitecasinos.com" gives us the same wagershares landingpage as in the thread last year:

xxhttp://www.rubyfortune.com/lp/online-pokies

Wagershare obviously are earning a lot of money from this affiliate(s).

 

[Webzcas]

Not the same Wagershare that owe me over £3,000 and featured an incredible amount of locked players each and every month I promoted them? Also not the same Wagershare that told Bryan to contact WIPO?

Say it's not so

 

[chayton]

Now maybe you should contact Andy @ Mr. Green to find out who's behind handy-casinomeister dot com - different casinos but the same person/people as behind handycasinomeister dot etc. If you look at the source code it's identical on both sites, they even have the same favicon.

 

[The Dude]

Now maybe you should contact Andy @ Mr. Green to find out who's behind handy-casinomeister dot com - different casinos but the same person/people as behind handycasinomeister dot etc. If you look at the source code it's identical on both sites, they even have the same favicon.

Thanks - I think he's on it already.

As for aussiesussexmskpartnershipeast.com - the affiliate has told me (via a hotmail account and what I'm assuming is a fake name) that he's not giving it up because he has put a lot of work into the website and feels it doesn't infringe my rights, and that he's he's done enough already by redirecting it, and that I'm going at him out of spite. I'm not going after him out of spite - I'm am only protecting my name.

The reason I've been so adamant about this is how this damages the Casinomeister name and brand. Check out the Google results for the term "casinomeister"


Aussiecasinomeister is the third result. Visitors seeing this would easily assume that this is connected to me. So I'm dealing with this properly, via the legal route. Lastly, the affiliate has threatened me to do whatever harm he can do to Casinomeister (legally). So that email was forwarded to my lawyer as well.

 

[pokeraddict]

IMO that site showing up in your SERPs makes it very easy to prove damages. If you have affiliate programs that have rejected these content and trademark thieves I would love to hear about them. They deserve recognition. The two biggest problem sites I have called out in the past year did not see any of their sponsors drop them. This makes me reach the conclusion that most do not care as long as they are being referred players.

 

[greedygirl]

The sites mentioned in this post is recognized in this "aussiecasinomeister" thing.

Checking links from "xxaussiesussexmskpartnershipeast.com" /"xxhttp://exquisitecasinos.com" gives us the same wagershares landingpage as in the thread last year:

xxhttp://www.rubyfortune.com/lp/online-pokies

Wagershare obviously are earning a lot of money from this affiliate(s).

The key line in this:

Wagershare obviously are earning a lot of money from this affiliate(s).

Is it that Wagershare is earning a lot of money from this 'affiliate' or is it that Wagershare (or whichever program or programs are behind this) are actually employing black-hatters to create hundreds of these sites, which in turn, they are making a $hitload of money off of? I mentioned this on Facebook, and I'll say it here: While I have no proof, my instincts are telling me that it is either one of these programs or an alliance of programs, together, who have moved to create these sites. Further, I have a hunch FocalClick has nothing to do with this--they were only lumped in to 'throw off the scent' so to speak.

I could be wrong, but the more we're learning, the more I'm trusting my instincts.

 

[P.V.]

Anyone with an International Trademark can put a stop to this type activity. If not, although it's unethical , it's going to be a hard nut to crack since the Internet is global.

From what I've seen this person targets Australia, so I assume they live there. Too much Aussie, pokies etc. on the net.

 

[Webzcas]

The key line in this:



Is it that Wagershare is earning a lot of money from this 'affiliate' or is it that Wagershare (or whichever program or programs are behind this) are actually employing black-hatters to create hundreds of these sites, which in turn, they are making a $hitload of money off of? I mentioned this on Facebook, and I'll say it here: While I have no proof, my instincts are telling me that it is either one of these programs or an alliance of programs, together, who have moved to create these sites. Further, I have a hunch FocalClick has nothing to do with this--they were only lumped in to 'throw off the scent' so to speak.

I could be wrong, but the more we're learning, the more I'm trusting my instincts.

Your instincts mirror mine on this Deb.

 

[chayton]

As for aussiesussexmskpartnershipeast.com - the affiliate has told me (via a hotmail account and what I'm assuming is a fake name) that he's not giving it up because he has put a lot of work into the website....

A LOT of work? 5 pages. How many pages do you have on YOUR site Bryan? Lol I bet you don't even know, do you?

Anyhow you're not asking him to give up the website, just the name. There's no logo or even any text (except a link at the bottom) that mentions the domain name on the site at all, so how is changing the domain going to affect any of the work he put into it?

 

[Webzcas]

A LOT of work? 5 pages. How many pages do you have on YOUR site Bryan? Lol I bet you don't even know, do you?

Obviously means a lot of work ranking for the term ' Casinomeister ' - which where I am that site ranks #2 on google.co.uk. I expect they/he/she gets a good amount of traffic for that term.

 

[incrediblestuff]

About what GreedyGirl said, i too have suspected such things going on, but it was just a feeling indeed, and i also think that this "organisation", or maybe there are several groups, are behind all those huge bulks of spammail with generic addresses, and i am also pretty sure they have found conspicuous ways, besides their phony unsubscribe links and aff links, to insert their tags to 100's if not 1000's of unsuspecting gamblers, who might sign up from a trustworthy affiliate, only to end up donating to these scumbags, i can't prove anything of it, but from what i have read on several forums and articles over the years, including the darker boards, i just feel, it must be so.

They are pissing all over us, i guess with many oblivious to the facts.
I'd love to do something, but i am clueless as to what really...

 

[zebedy]

A LOT of work? 5 pages. How many pages do you have on YOUR site Bryan? Lol I bet you don't even know, do you?

Anyhow you're not asking him to give up the website, just the name. There's no logo or even any text (except a link at the bottom) that mentions the domain name on the site at all, so how is changing the domain going to affect any of the work he put into it?

A 5 page website , wasnt the google update panda or penguin or something supposed to stop websites like this gaining top positions in the search results ?.

Would contacting them do any good, explaining that they are piggybacking on your name to con the search results.

 

[The Dude]

And we have another scumbag to add to the scumbag affiliate collection:

xhttp://www.onlinesussexmskpartnershipeast.com

As per the usual chickenshit tactic, no contact information. And this website uses content, and no banners, but refers to a bunch of other sites. So it's another crap linking scheme.

As for the webmaster of aussiesussexmskpartnershipeast.com - he says he's transferring it to me, but we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

 

[Nate]

Is this yours?

xxx.casinomeister-poker.com - The page is blank...

Nate

 

[maphesto]

Is this yours?

xxx.casinomeister-poker.com - The page is blank...

Nate

https://sussexmskpartnershipeast.com/casino-awards/year-2004/

Most Innovative Webmaster Concept of 2004 Pokerrooms
"PokerAddict" the much respected online poker expert, launched a new idea in December of 2004 that will undoubtedly prove popular for both players and affiliates, dealing as it does with profitable rake information.

From InfoPowa news service: "Rake Rebate Review.com is dedicated to getting the online poker player the best rake back deal possible. By allowing affiliates to post their paybacks all in one place allows the online player to see all available offers without having to hunt all over the net.

There's a forum, a PM system, but most important unbiased information and feedback that can save players money.

This is how it works. Marketing affiliates get a certain percentage of a player's rake back every month from the poker room. Many affiliates keep 100% of this. This percent is usually in the 20-30 percent range of the money each poker room took out of pots players were dealt in.

On the new site, affiliates give the player a cut of this money they make in return for going through them. Players who go to URL Not Found / Outdated will see comprehensive tables that they can turn to their advantage at a number of poker rooms."

John Mehaffey aka Pokeraddict, is a regular contributor to Casinomeister-poker.com

EDIT: I didn't know either, I followed backlinks.

 

[The Dude]

Is this yours?

xxx.casinomeister-poker.com - The page is blank...

Nate

Yes, but it was a huge effort to keep updated. I guess I should have a redirect in place to our nearly non-existent poker section.

 

[The Dude]

Is this yours?

xxx.casinomeister-poker.com - The page is blank...

Nate

Blank no more
www.casinomeister-poker.com/

 

[ThePOGG]

Hey CM,

Did you get the support from Focal Click that you needed in shutting this down? I really like Adam over there, but I want to be sure they'll follow up on stuff like this before I shift them up.

Thanks

ThePOGG

 

[zebedy]

Another one comes up in yahoo,

xxxxxhttp://www.online-sussexmskpartnershipeast.com

 

[The Dude]

One down, a few more to go:

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[spintee]

One down, a few more to go:

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Well done, lets hope they get slaped with a fine, Did you manage to find out who they was?

 

[vinylweatherman]

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Maybe you should also have a link there so that people who end up at these sites have a simple means of navigating to the genuine trademarked site.

In order for you to protect this domain from being misused again, don't you have to keep it registered and pay an annual hosting fee?

This could make protecting a trademark pretty expensive given that there must be an infinite number of possible permutations that could be registered.

A better approach might be to see if there is any way to get Google to block all results from domains containing "casinomeister" anywhere in the URL that don't belong to you. I expect other trademark holders would also be interested in a similar solution.

 

[spintee]

Maybe you should also have a link there so that people who end up at these sites have a simple means of navigating to the genuine trademarked site.

In order for you to protect this domain from being misused again, don't you have to keep it registered and pay an annual hosting fee?

This could make protecting a trademark pretty expensive given that there must be an infinite number of possible permutations that could be registered.

A better approach might be to see if there is any way to get Google to block all results from domains containing "casinomeister" anywhere in the URL that don't belong to you. I expect other trademark holders would also be interested in a similar solution.

I do not think he can have nothing to do with site( put link ect), I see that the meister face is there but is that what was already on the site hiden b4 it got took down?

Unless the provider done this out of curtsey, But My main mission is to find out who regerstard the site

 

[K2C]

One down, a few more to go:

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Cool! I see the domain updated date has changed to June 02, 2014.
Did you actually make them transfer it your name, not just post that note on the home page?