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Mr Vegas

Hi @toms596

There's no official rep here for Mr Vegas. The best chance is to email Team Mr Vegas ([email protected]), they should be able to sort things out for you.

You can also drop us a private message and we'll see how we can help you out.

Kind regards,
Team Videoslots
 
Just thought I would check some of my stats on Mr Vegas, as my gameplay there is nothing short of appalling (no surprise really, as it’s Videoslots with different pants on).

Dead or Alive 1 and 2 have been particularly dreadful so I just thought I would check the rtp. Couldn’t remember how long I had played there so went from 1/01/2023. It obviously wasn’t that long as it showed a flat line up until I started. Strangely when I hovered over the line it shows 92.06%. The help file says it runs at 94.03%.

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Jono777 said:
Message Team Videoslots (private)

They may respond that way but AFAIK, they don't deal with Mr. Vegas issues on the public forum.
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@Mr Wild does though as far as I am aware. I mean Team Videoslots have helped me with Mr Vegas issues and on Friday replied when I needed help with Mega Riches. So they do kinda help but yeah they do need to either get the Team Videoslots team to cover all their brands, after all when you get emails from any of the brands when you deposit or withdraw etc it always says videoslots as the company name for their other brands.
 
How's this for an overall RTP? Also, they always do a switch and bait. Promo is for 100% deposit with 75 free spins on Jack and the Beanstalk/Bonanza. Free spins never work so they sub with Sugar Rush. Absolute
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Yes. On sugar rush. 94.5/% RTP vs 96% so not happy. Same thing happened in June with jack and the beanstalk promo free spins so seems to me like a bait and switch scheme.
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Will sort it out and get you some FS in Jack when its fully sorted. Main issue is that Evolution have changed the integration and it was between two integration and some FS was given to the old system. We need to run a full scan to spot all of them and change to new system. Ontario was first to go out on new system so you guys was hit hardest with problem on netent spin or any other provider owned by Evolution. Pls PM me your email at VS and I will get you the FS when it sorted. Fix will take 1-2 weeks at least.
 
Mr Wild said:
Will sort it out and get you some FS in Jack when its fully sorted. Main issue is that Evolution have changed the integration and it was between two integration and some FS was given to the old system. We need to run a full scan to spot all of them and change to new system. Ontario was first to go out on new system so you guys was hit hardest with problem on netent spin or any other provider owned by Evolution. Pls PM me your email at VS and I will get you the FS when it sorted. Fix will take 1-2 weeks at least.
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Thanks for your help. PM has been sent
 
As I’ve always stated, Mr Vegas is one of the worst (if not the worst), supposedly legit, sites you can possibly play at. Every single game there plays appallingly, despite them (allegedly), having the same rtp as other sites.

And before you chime in @ChopleyIOM, yes like you at 3 dice, I keep giving it the benefit of the doubt, thinking it will even up. It’s now gone way past that stage as I am convinced that they are running sub rtp games. There’s no other way to explain shite like this.

Over 2 weeks of playing, several £100 pounds in deposits, with a £1,700 play through, rtp of 71.74%, biggest win £21.84 (I know takes some believing) and not 1 single bonus. That is simply disgusting by anybody’s standards.

That is impossible unless they are running a bent version, which I suppose, given that Evolution and BTG are involved, is highly likely.

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You should @ me to prevent me replying like chopley!

As I'll just tell you 2700 spins is nothing, especially on a game like bonanza which is pretty damn volatile.

You are a fisherman, fishing in a river full of tiny (0) and small (low win) fish. Occasionally medium sized fish float past and sometimes, very rarely, a Goliath grouper (yuge) trundles on by.

It just so happens on this expedition barely any medium sized fish turned up. Can happen at this volatility.

I've gone five figures of spins without 100x before across the tens of websites sequentially. On the same slot. It just happens. There are so damn many tiny fish that sometimes that's all you catch.

It's a bad bad streak but it's far from impossible. In fact it's extremely probable to happen to people occasionally.
 
I’ve never had anything remotely close to that in 7 years and over 2 million spins so I think you’re way off the mark there. Bonanza boasts 75% rtp in the base game so it’s not even a volatile slot. Backed up by the fact that a x1,000 win is extremely rare.
 
snorky510238 said:
I’ve never had anything remotely close to that in 7 years and over 2 million spins so I think you’re way off the mark there. Bonanza boasts 75% rtp in the base game so it’s not even a volatile slot. Backed up by the fact that a x1,000 win is extremely rare.
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Okay I'll just dispute the "impossible" as it's definitely possible. Just like 20 blacks in a row on roulette while betting red. Just extremely unlucky.

Personally on bonanza I've definitely not gone as long without a 50x win but I have had a few thousand spins without a bonus a few times.
 
Somehow Bonanza has always been bonus or bust for me in the past. I rarely, if ever, play it these days (thank god). Not like the newer slots are any better... But that supposed 75% RTP in the base is something I've never experienced.

Would it surprise me if they silently upped the volatility in the base? Fuck no. Not like anyone would ever tell us anyway. I've been very suspicious about supposedly low variance games having their math being changed over the past year or 2 since people got accustomed to high variance being the standard.

High variance/volatility and lower RTP is just not sustainable for the player like I've pointed out in another thread. I wish I was discovering slots right now and got absolutely no entertainment on my first try. I'd probably not have "wasted" so much time playing. Has to be said tho that pre-2020 it was more fun, seems that the events in 2020 triggered providers to milk the players just a little more...
 

This, basically.
 

Thing is over in the Bonanza thread I did a reasonable amount of stats tracking and posted all the results for everyone to see, it wasn't a massive sample size but it was enough to determine that a lot of the major numbers hadn't been changed i.e. feature frequency, average feature pay, base game RTP etc with a high degree of statistical confidence. (For something like feature frequency, for example, you don't actually need more than a few ten thousand spins, as something that happens 'often' (and 1/460 is quite regular, statistically speaking) can be averaged out pretty quickly.)

All we were really left with as a possibility for what had been changed was feature volatility, which I left open as being something that might have been done, the stats for everything else were enough to determine no significant changes had been made.

Bonanza has always had a very churny basegame with loads of small wins, it can go a really long time without even topping 50x, it's always been like that.
 
snorky510238 said:
Exactly! We all know it’s bullshit nowadays so why best about the bush. The industry is corrupt, simple as that.
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You've been saying that for, quite literally, years now. BTG are crooks and thieves according to you, so why are you still chucking money at them, and the casinos that facilitate their larceny?
 
Jono777 said:
Well! - Over at 3Dice.......... :p
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Indeed! I fought the BTG and the BTG won, you can see me having had enough in the Lil Devil thread and swearing off it then. This works far better than snorky's approach which is to continue chucking good money after bad and screaming at the clouds about how crooked and unfair it all is.

I didn't even think there was anything underhand going on, I just realised the futility of going up against BTG's volatility and maths models.

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ChopleyIOM

New Slot Announcement Post in thread 'LIL' DEVIL by Big Time Gaming...'

Latest deposit played to a bust out, at least this time I'm only about 12% adrift of RTP :D

I've decided this is stupid and I'm not going to do it anymore. It's not fun, I'll never make a withdrawal in a million years plugging away at this rotten bag of shit, and it's a total waste of money.

I'm going to revive things over at 3Dice and get sorted out with Mifinity so I can deposit there. I got in touch with Mifinity's support to sort out the issue with my authentication and they've fixed it, so I'll test the waters with lobbing some money into Mifinity and then getting it over to 3Dice...
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Yes, the old well known saying, "If at first you don't succeed" does not apply to the world of online slots, well not to the newer more volatile ones at least. Old school games like DoA, BoD and most Novomatics will eventually "give in" and return a decent hit from time to time.

This being said. I will stand by what I and many others have said (including Snorks), with all the "salt and vinegar" removed and whichever phrases have been used to "dress it up" that games do not provide anywhere near as much game time as they did a few years or so back 9/10.
 

I wish I had the same experience as you. Must be nice. I pounded that mf for months, 10s of thousands of spins and it always was bonus or bust. And on top of that not even a 1000x to show for it :laugh:

I can clearly say Bonanza won in the end and I'm glad I didn't play it that much after that episode.
 
Here we are again! This Casino is running games with fake rtp’s. I’ve said it for a while now and there is no doubt that players are being scammed here.

I only play 4 games at this Casino (was 5 before DoA was removed for some reason)

Just look at this heap of shite that I’ve endured over the past 2 weeks. Just to add that I’m well aware that you can have a bad run…..I’ve had more than my fair share. But, what I have never come close to enduring, is filth like this. Blatant, disgusting, disgraceful, cheating filth.

There is not even the remotest possibility that you could end up with stats like these if you were genuinely playing random slots with a 96% rtp. Not a chance!

So, Birds on a Wire; I’ve got a play through of £964 and done 1,419 spins and the rtp is 47.39%. Nearly 50% below expected and the highest win is £26.70.

Bonanza; A play through of £870 and done 1404 spins and the rtp is 68.08%. Nearly 30% below expected and the highest win is £24.21.

Absolutely disgraceful!

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essuk said:
...or alternatively you have a miniscule sample size and its something called variance.
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Not in a million years. It’s impossible to hit a run as bad as that on a slot that is genuinely random and paying 96%. I have never had a run half that bad let alone as disgusting as that. And, for it to happen simultaneously on both slots……Bullshit!
 
snorky knows for sure because he has been playing these thieving, robbing, cheating, blatantly crooked games for years and years and he keeps on playing them, even at casinos that are definitely running illegal below-RTP scam slots such as Mr Vegas, and his sample size is massive because he keeps on playing them, and playing them, and playing them - this is all in pursuit of scientific research to enable him to say with complete confidence that he is being scammed out of his money and that it has been going on for years right under our noses!

It's a tough job, but someone's got to do it.
 
ChopleyIOM said:
snorky knows for sure because he has been playing these thieving, robbing, cheating, blatantly crooked games for years and years and he keeps on playing them, even at casinos that are definitely running illegal below-RTP scam slots such as Mr Vegas, and his sample size is massive because he keeps on playing them, and playing them, and playing them - this is all in pursuit of scientific research to enable him to say with complete confidence that he is being scammed out of his money and that it has been going on for years right under our noses!

It's a tough job, but someone's got to do it.
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Well, you always insist that rtp will level up at some point. I think it’s fairly obvious that ain’t going to happen.
 
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Not in a million years. It’s impossible to hit a run as bad as that on a slot that is genuinely random and paying 96%. I have never had a run half that bad let alone as disgusting as that. And, for it to happen simultaneously on both slots……Bullshit!
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Oh no i had 0% rtp. I span one time....thats it the slot must be rigged.

Learn statistics.....1,500 spins is miniscule. Rtp is calculated over many millions of spins. And there has to be variance otherwise there cant be big winners. I have many slots on mrvegas with rtps showing in the 100s of percent. I won someone else lost and it evened out.
 
essuk said:
Oh no i had 0% rtp. I span one time....thats it the slot must be rigged.

Learn statistics.....1,500 spins is miniscule. Rtp is calculated over many millions of spins. And there has to be variance otherwise there cant be big winners. I have many slots on mrvegas with rtps showing in the 100s of percent. I won someone else lost and it evened out.
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I fully understand rtp and I’ve been around long enough to know when I’m being shafted, thanks.
 
I'd seriously urge you to cycle through a few more billion spins before casting aspersions Snorky..... you really ought to know better, rookie

And before decrying "Wah, this casino is doing this" or "This casino's doing that", please ensure that you distribute your playtime at as many casinos as you can, lest one casino's stats linger behind the others', and is made to look 'bad' (heaven help us)....

What you'll find then is that all casinos, everywhere, eventually 'level out' to have exactly the same user experience. Apply this lesson, heed these tips given to you, and maybe stop with the silly nit-picking of games playing worse at one casino over others, yeah? :D
 
essuk said:
Oh no i had 0% rtp. I span one time....thats it the slot must be rigged.

Learn statistics.....1,500 spins is miniscule. Rtp is calculated over many millions of spins. And there has to be variance otherwise there cant be big winners. I have many slots on mrvegas with rtps showing in the 100s of percent. I won someone else lost and it evened out.
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I need to find myself a girl, who like snorky, looks at small things and thinks they are huge, would be a great personality trait to find in a partner!
 
mulven said:
I need to find myself a girl, who like snorky, looks at small things and thinks they are huge, would be a great personality trait to find in a partner!
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There’s plenty of enlargement kits out there. If you believe that online slots work as stated, you’ll believe those work too.

Good Luck!
 
Ok…I have a different “slots are rigged” story. This has nothing to do with MrVegas, but then this thread derailed many posts ago.

Simply put, I had a great Easter slotting. While my weekend slotting wasn’t typical of average weekend for me (I played a lot more than I usually do thanks to some good withdrawals), it does occur often enough to prevent me from leaving slots completely.

So the purpose of this post is to show it’s not always a shitty experience (of which I do have too).

As I’ve mentioned many times, I’m a 0.20 spinner (max 0.30 if 0.20 isn’t available), averaging a $50 deposit per weekend. I have rules around how I play, and stick to them. Any one slot will get a maximum of $10, then I move on. If I win $10+ or get a bonus on a slot, I leave straight after one backup spin. Even if the bonus pays zero.

This allows me to play more slots with my money, and often leads to extended play times. There doesn’t seem to be much logic around this but it’s what I experience. I also seem to get more than my fair share of wins. Again, no logic but it’s what I see. I’m just jammy I guess.

I’ve all but stopped playing Prags and focus heavily on Hacksaws and their under-studios. My play is 99% on crypto casinos, all with max RTPs across the board.

So my point is that this pursuit can be fun, and still is for me.

For anyone interested, here is a breakdown of my play (I keep spreadsheets of my play). Thursday night play (17th) was with my better half and we tend to keep deposits $50 at two casinos ant an time, and move back and forth depending on luck. Normally we’d make two $50 and stop after doubling our deposits or bottoming out. Four deposits in total were made due to some good luck.

Note the partial withdrawal on Dodgy Crypto Casino 1 (DCC) this night and how we continued to print up our balance, leading to a second withdrawal at the end of our session. This casino actually gave me two non wager bonuses over two days which helped!

All significant wins were on Hacksaw/Backseat/Bullshark, except for the 152x on the new Prag Gates of Olympus Super Scatter. We actually landed the super bonus on this slot making the win a bit less shiny.

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We made some early gains at this casino and withdrew two times our deposit amount fairly quickly (although looking at it now, I’m not sure how we satisfied the 1x wagering requirements…). ALL significant wins on this casino across the weekend were courtesy of Hacksaw slots.
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We moved to a third casino on Thursday night after making several withdrawals above. It was a quick hit and run after 2.5xing our deposit. Both significant wins were on Hacksaws.
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Tried again at a fourth casino but lucked out pretty quickly with little play time. The Hacksaws were getting their own back by this stage.
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Overall, this is how the weekend ended.
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Despite winning, I’m a bit sick of slots at the moment having played so much over Easter! But I’m still having fun with this hobby.

Please don’t hate me!
 


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