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On the one hand, I always liked Twin Spin so I like Gemini too.

On the other hand, not exactly an original creation......

NetEnt should be very flattered by this homage though.

 
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Your top pay is 27x 5OAK diamonds @ 1080x bet.
Second, 54x 5OAK Bars (3rd. highest symbol) at 864x
Third 16x 5OAK diamonds (this will come in with last 4 reels joined with diamond-10-wild visible and cherry-10-diamond first reel for 651x bet!!
Fourth 27x 7's (2nd highest symbol) 540x
You can't get 18 ways of diamonds but it's possible to get 48 ways cherries 480x bet.
It's possible to get 24x 7's too for 480x bet.
27x Bars 432x
Best full screen is A,K or Q at 388.8x bet.
You can get 8 or 9OAK diamonds at 320 or 360x respectively.

I have had all those wins except the top pay....
 

There are at least a dozen copies out there aside from the latest 3Dice incarnation:

Sync Reels by Booongo
Double Happiness, Lucky Clover by SA Gaming
Double Cash by Fugaso
Fa Fa Twins by Betsoft
Neon Classic by Platea by Platipus Gaming
Cabaret by MGA
Twin Reels by Altea Gaming
Smoking Dogs by Fugaso
Sisters of Luck by Nucleus Gaming
Jazz Spin, Fresh Fortune by BeeFee

Of course, Gnatent themselves cloned it with Fantasini Master of Mystery, but their first model of this mechanic wasn't actually Twin Spin, but VEGAS PARTY!!

As Michael Caine said, "Not a lot of people know that..."
 

I guess there are no licensing style issues or suchlike then, unlike the MEGAWAYS ENGINE which BTG demand to be paid for.

I wondered if there was a point at which a 'tribute' to an existing slot crossed the line into blatant thievery but obviously not!

Personally speaking I've always rather liked Twin Spin so I'm quite pleased 3Dice have their own version of it now.
 
I guess there are no licensing style issues or suchlike then, unlike the MEGAWAYS ENGINE which BTG demand to be paid for.

I wondered if there was a point at which a 'tribute' to an existing slot crossed the line into blatant thievery but obviously not!

Personally speaking I've always rather liked Twin Spin so I'm quite pleased 3Dice have their own version of it now.
I think it's more down to the mechanic and maths of Megaways being far harder to reverse engineer or copy. As @trancemonkey has said often, you cannot patent the maths of a slot. CasinoR*wards have a dodgy provider now who has copied DHV and also Megaways but of course called it something different. So BTG licensing the trademarked version out to numerous other providers before it was plagiarised was a good move.
 
Unfortunately the video really caught this slot in a foul mood, but of course Twin Spin was notoriously vicious if you played it at the wrong time, despite its modest top prize.

I put some of the best wins from the previous session at the end of the video, but I also deposited another £100 yesterday evening and kicked it off on 25p spins, balance went up and down a bit, peaking at £120, and after an hour's play I was back at £100 so I left it there for the session.

I honestly think 3Dice should change their volatility rating for this game, having it at 1 chilli (same as Payola, Wild Waves and Industria, amongst others) is going lead some of the regulars suffering a nasty kicking or two IMO.
 
Netent have it as a medium-variance game, so why 3Dice say it's low, I do not know.
 
Come on 3Dice, surely you can do better than this..

An almost identical clone from a different provider? The least you could of done is
change up some of the mechanics and pay structure.

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There's nothing "unique" about this release other than the graphics.. and even that (gems) have been
played out by nearly all providers.

I hope you step your game up with the next release :)
 
Yes it is a little bit disappointing in that regard, especially when you look at games such as Berrini's Fortune, Tesla and Enchanted Spins, which really are unique creations. (Well, as far as I'm aware, anyway!)

And yet they still haven't remade Kyoko's Quest for the new platform! (I've got emails going back two years asking them about that one..... and it was on the 'to do' list back then apparently :D )
 
Hi Chopley,

Thank you for giving Gemini a try and for the review as well ( you know I appreciate those video's ).
What can I say about Pon Pon?! You're not the only one requesting Kyoko back. Some of our players actually started a petition a while back (
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) :).

So I promise that I will do my best lobbying for it :).

Kind regards,
Anna
 
Thanks Anna :D

Why has Kyoko's Quest not come back already? It was such a good game and seemed to be fairly popular with your player base from what I could tell.

I appreciate there's a development cost to everything and that it's choosing where to spend those resources, but Kyoko's Quest always seemed to be a very strange omission to me.

Ahhh well, maybe I will get to rescue Pon Pon again one day.
 
Wouldn't bloody well do this for the video would it?......

259x stake so not incredible, but best so far. Also not a full screen as I'm missing a King on reel 5.

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Although I tend not to trust slots without a free spins feature, and wasn't exactly bowled over by Twit Spit's splendour, it is gratifying to see good old-fashioned slots without airs and graces, and that are more old-school in their approach.

One forgets it's the 100 & 200xs that would build a session and bankroll, back in the days when it was an artform, as opposed to today's boom-or-bust (bust) planet destroyers.

Even if in Gemini's case it erm takes losing 'a bit' before it reciprocates :eek2:
 
Although I tend not to trust slots without a free spins feature, and wasn't exactly bowled over by Twit Spit's splendour, it is gratifying to see good old-fashioned slots without airs and graces, and that are more old-school in their approach.

One forgets it's the 100 & 200xs that would build a session and bankroll, back in the days when it was an artform, as opposed to today's boom-or-bust (bust) planet destroyers.

Even if in Gemini's case it erm takes losing 'a bit' before it reciprocates :eek2:

Absolutely, and this is why I honestly have very little interest in 'lottery style' HV monsters. I want fun, I want features, I want a decent chance of hitting respectable wins on a fairly regular basis.

By all means have the crazy HV stuff for folks who like it, but those games just aren't for me. (Although I think there's a reason 3Dice don't make any games with anything like a DOA2 style maths model.)

And you're quite right about the 'building' too, I started again on Gemini this evening with £100, and it's more than doubled that to over £200, all on 25p spins, with that 259x being the single biggest win.

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Yes it is a little bit disappointing in that regard, especially when you look at games such as Berrini's Fortune, Tesla and Enchanted Spins, which really are unique creations. (Well, as far as I'm aware, anyway!)

And yet they still haven't remade Kyoko's Quest for the new platform! (I've got emails going back two years asking them about that one..... and it was on the 'to do' list back then apparently :D )
One huge feather in 3Dice's cap is the fact they haven't sunk to the level of most other developers, ripping off Novomatics Book of Ra Deluxe formula. The day they bring us that nonsense, I think it's all over.
 
243x stake for a full screen of 10s.

I'm not really 'playing' the game as such, I'm actually sat on the couch playing Ghost Of Tsushima on my PS4 Pro, but 3Dice's autoplayer is so configurable I can comfortably have it going as well and I just cast my eye over when it does something interesting.

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View from the couch.

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Care to kindly show some snippets of your PS4 GOT exploits on your other thread? I'd quite like to see that, if you're doing requests

Hey, you mentioned it. Don't shoot the messenger!
 
Care to kindly show some snippets of your PS4 GOT exploits on your other thread? I'd quite like to see that, if you're doing requests

Hey, you mentioned it. Don't shoot the messenger!

The videos I make about videogames for my channel go down about as well as 'a wet fart in a spacesuit', to steal from Billy Connolly.

However, I am intending to make a video as a three way review/comparison for three PS4 exclusives - Death Stranding, The Last Of Us 2, and Ghost of Tsushima once I've finished it.

(SPOILER ALERT - Death Stranding and Ghost of Tsushima are the best games out of the three.)

Also I know Death Stranding is now on PC as well :)

But yes, that video will be along in due course, and it'll get several dislikes within the first half an hour of it being online, i.e. before those folks have even watched it :D
 
Just post the video game content here. I'm sure the YT gambling contingent wouldn't want to see games vids, as they clearly on the whole care only about gambling. But it's worth doing here at least, if you like/ have the time :thumbsup:
 

It wouldn't even cross my mind to dislike a video of content I don't even watch... Some people :rolleyes:
 
@3Dice

3Dice have made a couple changes to this game, although one of them is (I think?) temporary for the Halloween period.

As you can see, it's linked into the promotional sitewide progressive which as I understand it is funded from outside the slot's actual RTP. (i.e. There's no progressive contribution taken from the slot's RTP, and is funded by 3Dice themselves as an 'extra'.)

I'd definitely like clarity on where the RTP is coming from for the sitewide progressive though.

The other change is a little bit more interesting, in that they've rejigged the reels to increase the maximum payout by over 300%, to give the game a top prize of over 3000x stake. (In fairness this information is conveyed via a popup that you have to click through the first time you load the game on any device after the change was made.)

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However, at the same time they've also slightly REDUCED the game's RTP.

Here's a capture from the video I made when the slot was released.

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And here's the RTP now.

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Now obviously there's only one way to increase the top prize without changing the RTP, and that's to increase the volatility, although the game's 'chilli rating' remains at two chillies.

To increase the volatility whilst also reducing the RTP (albeit only very slightly) doesn't exactly delight me, as I felt the volatility of Gemini (ahem..... Twin Spin.....) was already at about the outer edges of what I enjoy in a slot.

I'd like to know how much the pay profile of the slot has changed overall (it could be tiny, and that 3000x stake win could be a billion to one shot), and also why the change couldn't have been made without negatively affecting the RTP. It's possible that the new reel configuration to allow for the 3000x win simply introduced the RTP reduction as a side effect.

I've chucked a decent number of spins through it in demo play and it feels the same, but I'm always slightly wary of a slot being changed that I'm very familiar with, although I appreciate that 3Dice have at least been open and upfront with the changes.

(They've changed Berrini's Fortune too, I'll cover that separately.)
 
I should note here that Anna from 3Dice has emailed me to let me know she's read the above post but is currently out hiking so will reply tomorrow when she's back in the office :)

Thanks Anna :)
 
I see that Berrini's Fortune doesn't have its own thread and since Anna is already aware of the posts above I'll add the Berrini's Fortune changes here and hopefully both can be addressed together, as the scenario is similar.

On opening Berrini's Fortune for the first time following the changes made to the game, this message is displayed.

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However on this game the RTP has been nudged up a little bit.

BEFORE.

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AFTER.

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So no problems on the RTP situation (assuming that the progressive RTP is not being taken from game RTP), but I'm not entirely thrilled by the changes to the game itself.

The changes to the top pays are only available from a 5 scatters trigger, and that's a rare hit. To give you an idea, as of August I'd done 40,000 real money spins on this game and I've never seen a 5 scatters trigger. (And I've done a fair few spins on it since then, still no 5 scatters trigger.)

Now whilst the changes apparently make very little difference to the overall pays for a 3 scatters trigger, the actual win table for a three scatters trigger has been made rather less appealing in my opinion.

Here's what it used to look like.

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And here's what it looks like now. (Note the changes at the lower end of the right hand side picks triangle.)

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If there's one thing I hate in a slot, it's a free spins round that can run at a 1x multiplier (I think it's one of the weakest aspects of Arctic Adventure), and here we have a change that's taken a worst case scenario of a 2x multiplier on a 3 scatters trigger, and replaced it with a 1x multiplier.

At the same time they've reduced the number of picks for 3 scatters, which makes getting one of the shit picks more likely.

I've played this slot a decent amount (40K+ spins in real money alone), the VAST majority of the features are 3 scatters, 4 scatters is fairly rare, 5 scatters I've never seen.

As such, a change that makes the 'main feature' objectively worse, to compensate for an uplift in a feature you can go over 40K spins for and never see, doesn't seem like a trade off worth making to me.

It sounds perilously close to one of those 'Look at the potential!' style changes, that will never be realised for almost everyone, but presents a more exciting headline number, whilst making the actual game worse.

I'm also concerned about feature frequency, whilst the average pays for a 3 scatters trigger might be about the same overall, has the feature frequency itself changed? (Also, I suspect that whilst the 'pays' might be about the same in terms of what each option is worth, with one less pick per feature, that's going to increase the risk of getting a shit one and therefore reduce the overall value of a 3 scatters trigger.)

On balance I don't like slots being mucked about with at the best of times, and the changes to Berrini's Fortune seem to me like an answer to a question no one was asking. As with Gemini, one can only conclude that the changes push the volatility of the game up by at least some degree, I'd be interested to know by how much.

Grumpy face :(
 
Well I will add my 10 pence worth, while i commend 3dice making the changes fully transparent to the player, it does kind of show us that providers can and do change math models on games, even very long standing games, and of course opens more questions!

I wonder why they didn't just make a stand alone game with the changes and called it Deluxe or something, like the MAX versions that Netent have done on some games lately, then they could cater for more players, which would appear their trying to do here.

I am unable to play at 3 dice, me being uk but have always liked the look, idea and math models of some of their games, but I must admit it seems strange to change a long standing game like that.

Maybe 3 dice will confirm just how the linked progressive works, but it would be very unusual if players are not contributing to it in one way or another unless as you say it is a pure added extra of say 0.5% of all bets being seeded into it etc as an extra 0.5% site wide RTP

As for your 40,000 spins comment I doubt thats anywhere near the chance of a 5 scatter, obviously it varies from game to game but its probably going to be way, way higher odds than that and you should not rule out the chance of it happening of being 400,000 to 1 or most likely even greater.
 
I wonder why they didn't just make a stand alone game with the changes and called it Deluxe or something, like the MAX versions that Netent have done on some games lately, then they could cater for more players, which would appear their trying to do here.

I sort of wondered that myself, but the changes probably don't warrant the 'new' versions of the slots existing as standalone games, and it's not something 3Dice have previously established as a 'thing' that they do either.

In the case of Berrini's Fortune they specifically cite wanting to avoid zero pay features, (by stretching out the 2x spins to 1x spins), which can happen, but they're very rare.

Maybe 3 dice will confirm just how the linked progressive works, but it would be very unusual if players are not contributing to it in one way or another unless as you say it is a pure added extra of say 0.5% of all bets being seeded into it etc as an extra 0.5% site wide RTP

Yes I'd definitely like confirmation on this, hopefully Anna will be able to clarify in due course.

As for your 40,000 spins comment I doubt thats anywhere near the chance of a 5 scatter, obviously it varies from game to game but its probably going to be way, way higher odds than that and you should not rule out the chance of it happening of being 400,000 to 1 or most likely even greater.

Oh for sure I've no doubt that may be the case, my point is however that they've made the feature a player will see 99%+ of the time demonstrably worse (shittier feeling prizes, fewer picks), to make a feature better that a player may never see. And remember, even upon hitting a 5 scatters trigger, there's still a pretty small chance that the top prize will be picked anyway!

The 40,000 spins statement was just to contextualise how rarely one might expect to hit a 5 scatters trigger.

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Hi Chopley,

I will try to answer all your question to the best of my ability :) .

3Dice have made a couple changes to this game, although one of them is (I think?) temporary for the Halloween period.
As you can see, it's linked into the promotional sitewide progressive which as I understand it is funded from outside the slot's actual RTP. (i.e. There's no progressive contribution taken from the slot's RTP, and is funded by 3Dice themselves as an 'extra'.)
I'd definitely like clarity on where the RTP is coming from for the sitewide progressive though.

The Linked Progressive is extra RTP for all the Videoslots, on top of what they were at.

I'd like to know how much the pay profile of the slot has changed overall (it could be tiny, and that 3000x stake win could be a billion to one shot), and also why the change couldn't have been made without negatively affecting the RTP. It's possible that the new reel configuration to allow for the 3000x win simply introduced the RTP reduction as a side effect.

Gemini required a minimal tweak to add that extra Big Pay, which was actually something you suggested.

You are correct in thinking that the new reel configuration to allow for the 3000x win simply introduced the RTP reduction as a side effect. But the progressive puts it back over what it used to be.

Regarding Berrini's Fortune:

So no problems on the RTP situation (assuming that the progressive RTP is not being taken from game RTP), but I'm not entirely thrilled by the changes to the game itself.

The progressive RTP is indeed not being taken from the game RTP.

I'm also concerned about feature frequency, whilst the average pays for a 3 scatters trigger might be about the same overall, has the feature frequency itself changed? (Also, I suspect that whilst the 'pays' might be about the same in terms of what each option is worth, with one less pick per feature, that's going to increase the risk of getting a shit one and therefore reduce the overall value of a 3 scatters trigger.)

I can assure you that the feature frequency is unchanged. It comes in at about the same RTP but it now also benefits from the extra RTP from the linked progressive.

As with Gemini, one can only conclude that the changes push the volatility of the game up by at least some degree, I'd be interested to know by how much.

I will have to check with the techs on this and will try to get a relative volatility number for Gemini.

I hope this answers your questions and if there is anything else I can do for you please let me know.

Kind regards,
Anna
 
Thanks for that Anna.

Good to get confirmation that the sitewide progressive is 'bonus' RTP and not coming out of the slots' base RTP.

Did I suggest the change to Gemini? I honestly don't remember doing so, although I did query what its top pay was as Twin Spin is well known to have many reel configurations that look to be possible but in actual fact are not on the win table at all. (As it shifts reel sets depending on the reel joins.)

I still think the changes to Berrini's Fortune make for a worse game overall, (although it still remains a good option from your portfolio), but that's my subjective opinion. (Who knows, maybe one day I'll get the five scatters, hit 3000x stake and change my mind.....)

Anyway, thanks as ever for a quick and comprehensive response, which is more than we'd get from most developers/providers!

For the record, this is the top pay Twin Spin is capable of, 1080x stake, so at 3000x stake plus Gemini certainly has more of that 'p' word we're all so fond of, potential........ :)

I'd be interested to know how the new version looks in terms of volatility though, as Twin Spin was notoriously quite volatile despite its relatively small top prize, and Gemini felt very much the same. (Identical?.....)


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I've given the new versions of both Gemini and Berrini's Fortune a decent play now. (Several thousand spins in real money through both.)

Gemini is fine, it basically feels like the same game as before, obviously I haven't seen the NEW 3000X STAKE WIN, but then I never saw the old jackpot on it either, or indeed hit above 500x stake on it from memory. The slight reduction in RTP isn't ideal but it's not a big problem, and it's still the right side of 96%. Overall - no issues, will remain one of my go-to slots at 3Dice. (I'm very curious to know what the reel configuration is for the jackpot win, as Twin Spin did it from a three reel lock on 3-4-5, what does it look like on Gemini?)

Berrini's Fortune is hurt by the changes IMO, however it's not as bad as I'd feared, and I think it'll remain one of my favourite 3Dice slots. I've been stiffed with the 1x pay free spins a few times and that's about as dull as you'd expect, but in reality it doesn't happen that often, and x2, x4, x6 multipliers are still available from three scatters, plus there's the cash value pyramid too.

It's one of my long term goals at 3Dice to hit five scatters on Berrini's Fortune, and knowing there's a 3000x stake win in there gives it a bit more spice I suppose.

Overall, I'd have been happy without the changes to either game, but post-change I'd say Gemini basically feels the same, Berrini's Fortune is a bit worse, but I still like it.

Maybe one day Kyoko's Quest will return.......
 
That could certainly be it, that's 81 5OAK ways of the top paying symbol which awards 40x stake.

There are other ways it could be done though, for example the next symbol down pays 20x stake, so 162 ways of that would work out the same.

Another possibility is 243 ways of the third-tier symbol which pays 16x stake, which would make 3888x stake.

All 3Dice said is that the new top prize on Gemini is 'well over 3000x stake', but looking at the pay table I think it'd have to be either the one in the screenshot above, or one of the other two I've suggested there.

However, I'd suspect that the pay is a 'one-off' on the pay table, so if I were a betting man (and I've been known to have a flutter :D ), I'd say that 81 ways of diamonds is probably the top prize.

Nice to see it caught on camera, whose screenshot is it? Did you land it yourself sapit?

Either way it's a lovely screenshot. I've blasted quite a number of spins myself through Gemini, alas I've only managed to hit the more common decent paying reel combinations so far, and IIRC haven't topped 400x stake on it.

I actually prefer it to Twin Spin, even though I rather like Twin Spin, Gemini has better music and I like the big win animations and tunes too.
 

Yes, this was my win and christmas present from 3Dice. :D
Shortly after i won this1, another person won the same 81 5OAK diamonds, but with the first symbol on the bottom instead. :eek:
The game must have been in a very happy mood i guess.
 
Having triumphed over Dice Fusion with a magnificent 4510x jackpot ball out of the bag pick, my next goal is to win the top prize on Gemini, which is 3240x.

This is a known top prize and a known reel configuration (see screenshot a few posts back).

Going into this challenge, the last time I asked for my lifetime 3Dice stats earlier this year, this is where I was at on Gemini. Please note that these are the same game, it's just that the 3Dice backend splits it out into pre-sitewide progressive, and post-sitewide progressive.

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And here's the Zeitgeist page for it:

(Ignore the two at the top they were the sitewide progressive, I wish 3Dice would take those off the Zeitgeist page as IMO they're a bit misleading if you don't know what they're referring to.)

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With a 96.3% RTP this is one of the higher paying slots at 3Dice (they're generally in the 95-96% range.)

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Game on! Let's see if takes three years, like Dice Fusion did :D
 
I'm strapped in and ready. Let's go!!
 
I had the second best 27-way premium once, this win on 7's.

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This wasn't my best Twin Spin win, I once got 2xBAR-1XBAR-3XBAR-3XBAR-3XBAR for 54@ 16x which paid 864x, that was my best one ever and it's in one of my YT videos. I think that 54 bars is the second-best possible win on TS as you can't get 54x 7's on it.

My second-best was a last 4-reel join-up which landed wild-10-diamond on reels 2-5 and diamond 10 queen on reel one, so I got 16 ways of 5OAK diamonds, 16 ways of 10's and 1 way of queens IIRC, paid 657.6x. which I believe is the third-best possible win, never ever got the 1080x jackpot on it.

I had 48-ways of cherries too, that was a win I only ever saw the once for 480x didn't know it was a thing until I saw it.
 
Twinspin will always bring back memories of when I won the 2 year birthday of the panda themed casino (can't remember the name). Won £5k and had to go out in Derby dressed as a panda and record myself doing things like walking a dog and grocery shopping.

The irony was I never knew that nights high score on Twinspin was part of the promotion and there was me playing a couple of hundred spins casually and hit the highest times stake for the 24 hour period!
 
Twinspin will always bring back memories of when I won the 2 year birthday of the panda themed casino (can't remember the name). Won £5k and had to go out in Derby dressed as a panda and record myself doing things like walking a dog and grocery shopping.

The irony was I never knew that nights high score on Twinspin was part of the promotion and there was me playing a couple of hundred spins casually and hit the highest times stake for the 24 hour period!
Royal Panda?
 
I'm a little confused are you still attempting the berlinis fortune 5 scatters or replaced it with the Gemini top pay?

I went a way in with Berrini's but bailed out on it, for now at least. The problem is that hitting the five scatters trigger doesn't really guarantee a decent pay because it can still dick you on the picks. I had a bad run on the (relatively rare) four scatters feature picks and figured if I finally landed five scatters and it dicked me off my karma would be messed with so instead I've decided to take on Gemini as that's just 'the win lands or it doesn't'.

I've been hammering away at Gemini for a few days now and it's a bit of a weird one, very streaky because of the RTP distribution into those midrange wins, but it all evens out in the end.
 
Boom! I'm in profit on this quest but it cost a few hundred quid to get there.

Four reel lock with a diamond on Reel 1. (I've seen this a few times now so wasn't getting my hopes up too much, but it does represent a jackpot shot.)

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And this time it obliged!

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3240x which is £810 from a 25p spin.

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So now it's onto the next 3Dice quest :)
 
Unbelievable spawn. I played Twin Spin for years and never hit the jackpot spin.
 
Unbelievable spawn. I played Twin Spin for years and never hit the jackpot spin.

It was a spawny hit for sure although I have been spannering it the last few days (the Christmas break allows for festively long sessions), and that's on top of the 130K+ spins I'd already done over the years since its release.

If you look at the Zeitgeist page's entry for Gemini, the 3240x top prize has been won six times in the last twelve months. Gemini is a pretty old slot now (over five years) so I can't imagine it gets a huge amount of play - as such I suspect that this is statistically one of the easier top prizes to hit (relatively speaking).

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Actually the Zeitgeist page shows that as well, it still gets played enough to get its own little slice of the pie, but as you can see it's not top of the popularity stakes these days by a long chalk.

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