No More Guts, Thrills, Betspin Etc For Aussies

[mina1929]

This is the email I received today from Guts, Betspin, Thrills and Rizk and I am sure there is more to follow.

With effect from the 31st of May 2017, the gaming services on Thrills will no longer be available within your territory.


However, you will be able to carry on enjoying gaming services through Houseofjack where your account will be transferred. The balance of your wallet will remain the same, and all withdrawal requests will be met within the usual time-frames.


If you do not agree with this transfer, please click here. This will send a notification letting us know that you do not want your account to be transferred. You can then withdraw any balance that you may have in the usual way up until the 31st of May.


Well I am pretty devastated as I loved all those casinos and enjoyed my game play at all of them

I really don't understand how that works, all those casinos are transferring my account to the same casino, I am confused

Doesn't take much to confuse me

Anyway this Houseofjack casino has Microgaming, play & go, betsoft, and quickspin providers. No Netent

Does anyone play at this Casino or know of more information of how our accounts work once transferred?

 

[theslotsking]

This has been on the cards for some time. From what I have been told any casino with Netent will pull out of Australia.

I would like to know though whether all netent casinos are pulling out or just some.

With this new casino, houseofjack does any one know who owns it etc? Looks very similar to Guts so thought it may be one of their sites.

 

[theslotsking]

One can only assume an account with our details is created at houseofjack and then all the different casino's pulling out of Australia send the balances to houseofjack.

The alternative though is to decline and just withdrawl at each individual casino.

 

[mina1929]

At least I will have somewhere to play

I feel so sad like a relationship breakup and it will take me a long time to get over it

 

[MissRuthless]

I am beyond devastated and heart broken right now about this.

I have never heard of the casino they are transfering us too - so don't know if it's risky or what, no one know anything ?
I think my online Casino days are over now.

Certainly don't want to play somewhere I know nothing about, and then risk the rubbish of having to id verify and all hassels that can come with it as well.

What is the actual reason this is happening ? 32red didnt have netent yet we aussies couldnt play there anymore either.

Ive been at guts for like 3 and a half years, I hope I can get a win before we say goodbye. Well my partner as I dont have money to play
Just cant believe it........... Guts was My no.1

 

[azzagirt]

This has been on the cards for some time. From what I have been told any casino with Netent will pull out of Australia.

I would like to know though whether all netent casinos are pulling out or just some.

With this new casino, houseofjack does any one know who owns it etc? Looks very similar to Guts so thought it may be one of their sites.

Well considering James Packer is our casino king it just may have something to do with him. ??

 

[Harry_BKK]

House of Jack

- Founded in March 2017
- Curacao license
- owned and operated by Cardins Enterprises Ltd. out of the British Virgin Islands
- $4,000 weekly withdrawal limit
- SUB withdrawal capped at 6x deposit
- no payments on weekends
- website seems to have been done in a "jiffy"

I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole to be honest.

Really feel for Australians right now, yet again consumer is left with no choice because a government feels they don't get enough in taxes.

 

[mina1929]

House of Jack

- Founded in March 2017
- Curacao license
- owned and operated by Cardins Enterprises Ltd. out of the British Virgin Islands
- $4,000 weekly withdrawal limit
- SUB withdrawal capped at 6x deposit
- no payments on weekends
- website seems to have been done in a "jiffy"

I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole to be honest.

Really feel for Australians right now, yet again consumer is left with no choice because a government feels they don't get enough in taxes.

Australian government are backward and greedy

 

[mina1929]

I am beyond devastated and heart broken right now about this.

I have never heard of the casino they are transfering us too - so don't know if it's risky or what, no one know anything ?
I think my online Casino days are over now.

Certainly don't want to play somewhere I know nothing about, and then risk the rubbish of having to id verify and all hassels that can come with it as well.

What is the actual reason this is happening ? 32red didnt have netent yet we aussies couldnt play there anymore either.

Ive been at guts for like 3 and a half years, I hope I can get a win before we say goodbye. Well my partner as I dont have money to play
Just cant believe it........... Guts was My no.1

Our accounts info will be transferred to houseofjacks so I don't think we will have to verify again.

 

[mina1929]

House of Jack

- Founded in March 2017
- Curacao license
- owned and operated by Cardins Enterprises Ltd. out of the British Virgin Islands
- $4,000 weekly withdrawal limit
- SUB withdrawal capped at 6x deposit
- no payments on weekends
- website seems to have been done in a "jiffy"

I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole to be honest.

Really feel for Australians right now, yet again consumer is left with no choice because a government feels they don't get enough in taxes.

I am moving again and going to live with Video Slots Damn government

 

[Jasminebed]

You can't even be sure if House of Jack is owned by them in an attempt to distance themselves from restrictions on the Australian market or just to grab an affiliate deal to transfer players (it has happened before for other markets, including when UK required a licence).

32Red's earlier withdrawal had more to do with a corporate buyout than the current legislation awaiting implentation in Europe.

Some will pull the plug earlier than others.

And as Canadian that has lost NetEnt games, I can assure you that's not the worse that can happen. There's lots of other good stuff out there.

But do check what your withdrawal options are, it may become more difficult for you to use ewallets or bank transfers, especially once legislation is fully in effect, rather than just forthcoming.

 

[snotter999]

Oh well
Saw these emails myself today but not to worry.
I have accounts with all four but have not played at any for quite a while.
It is what it is!

Who's next?

 

[mina1929]

Oh well
Saw these emails myself today but not to worry.
I have accounts with all four but have not played at any for quite a while.
It is what it is!

Who's next?

So where do you play now days?

 

[rainmaker]

.

I know that GiG (Gaming Innovation Group) previously has signed an agreement with Vegas Partner Lounge where Vegas Partner will migrate some of their
existing brands to the iGC platform, as well as launch an additional new brand.

According to the deal, GIG will transfer part of its customer databases from non-core markets to the new brand.

Based on this, my best guess is that House of Jack is a white label on the iGaming Cloud platform owned by Vegas Partner Lounge.

 

[snotter999]

So where do you play now days?

Lately been playing a bit at GoWild and Videoslots as well as a few different MG download casinos

 

[mina1929]

Lately been playing a bit at GoWild and Videoslots as well as a few different MG download casinos

Noticed you are from Newcastle so am I

 

[snotter999]

Yeah, i live down at Speers Point, one block back from the lake but get an awesome view as i'm on a corner block!
Great place to live.

 

[KasinoKing]

Anyway this Houseofjack casino has Microgaming, play & go, betsoft, and quickspin providers. No Netent
Does anyone play at this Casino or know of more information of how our accounts work once transferred?

Not heard of it until today - but I will tell you one thing - they wont have Microgaming beyond the summer (your winter!)
They will drop MG and just have the "minor" brands.

Based on this, my best guess is that House of Jack is a white label on the iGaming Cloud platform owned by Vegas Partner Lounge.

Good guess!
Took me less than a minute to find out that House of Jack is indeed on the same affy platform as the NEW Casino Mate (re-launched with those same softwares) = part of VPL / Star Partners.

I wonder what happens to income for players referred by affiliates to the GiG group Casinos?
I haven't been informed of anything from either operator...

KK

 

[rainmaker]

I haven't been informed of anything from either operator...

Yes you have

GiG Affiliates sent out an e-mail to affiliates on Friday:

"Gaming Innovation Group’s brands Guts, Rizk, Betspin, Thrills, SuperLenny and Kaboo will stop accepting Australian players starting from 15th May onwards.

Players will have a chance to migrate to a new casino, www.houseofjack.com. You will still continue earning commission from your existing players (including players referred from today till May 15th) that are migrated.

We are available to answer any questions or alleviate any concerns you may have. Please send us an email at [email protected] and we can answer any of your questions. We can also schedule a time to have a chat by phone or via Skype."

 

[snotter999]

Not heard of it until today - but I will tell you one thing - they wont have Microgaming beyond the summer (your winter!)
They will drop MG and just have the "minor" brands.


Good guess!
Took me less than a minute to find out that House of Jack is indeed on the same affy platform as the NEW Casino Mate (re-launched with those same softwares) = part of VPL / Star Partners.

I wonder what happens to income for players referred by affiliates to the GiG group Casinos?
I haven't been informed of anything from either operator...

KK

So i gather Casino-mate is going down the same road as GoWild and ditching the download casino and moving to a flash based platform.
And you can play the old Dead or Alive at GoWild or at least i can until Netent ditch us Aussies!

 

[mina1929]

Not heard of it until today - but I will tell you one thing - they wont have Microgaming beyond the summer (your winter!)
They will drop MG and just have the "minor" brands.


Good guess!
Took me less than a minute to find out that House of Jack is indeed on the same affy platform as the NEW Casino Mate (re-launched with those same softwares) = part of VPL / Star Partners.

I wonder what happens to income for players referred by affiliates to the GiG group Casinos?
I haven't been informed of anything from either operator...

KK

What about play & go games ?

 

[theslotsking]

Is videoslots leaving Australia? Seems to be no definitive answer.

 

[mina1929]

Is videoslots leaving Australia? Seems to be no definitive answer.

They could keep us and just not allow the games that are restricted. I hope they keep us as I don't think I could handle losing another much loved casino.

 

[theslotsking]

I think the biggest issue will be being able to make deposits and withdrawals. Even if casino's remain it's not much point if i can't deposit or withdrawl.

Same thing happened in the US

 

[mina1929]

I think the biggest issue will be being able to make deposits and withdrawals. Even if casino's remain it's not much point if i can't deposit or withdrawl.

Same thing happened in the US

You're from the Uk? its not happening there?

Withdrawing and depositing there will always be a way

 

[theslotsking]

I live in Australia. Entered wrong location when I signed up.

If the main reliable casino's leave Australia it will kill the market here. Might have stick to the plain old pokies.

 

[KasinoKing]

Yes you have
GiG Affiliates sent out an e-mail to affiliates on Friday:

Yes, you're quite right - I missed that one in my mountain of incoming spam mails on Friday...

So i gather Casino-mate is going down the same road as GoWild and ditching the download casino and moving to a flash based platform.
And you can play the old Dead or Alive at GoWild or at least i can until Netent ditch us Aussies!

Yep - same situation - no download.

I live in Australia. Entered wrong location when I signed up.
If the main reliable casino's leave Australia it will kill the market here. Might have stick to the plain old pokies.

There are other casinos I consider reliable and fair - the same ones/operators Americans have been using for years.
Of course, they have different softwares which some players might not like... but there always seem to be players complaining about MG & NetEnt games... so maybe that's not such a bad thing!

Can't you change your location in your settings?

KK

 

[naththo]

I too have the same outcome in email as you have. I am losing another two more casino. Done 32Red lost now this coming up. Very disappointed. Last year I lost Quasar as a novomatic casino, really sucks. Its all gooferment fault.

It looks like I am stuck with only two left are videoslots and 3Dice. Thats about it. Most other day I would spend time with hokies pokies at a pub or casino, most are all aristocrat, konami, etc. I hope two stay alive longer for us Aussie!

 

[petro]

Might have stick to the plain old pokies.

The only real difference is that you will lose quicker playing the regular pokies because of the lower RTP. (There's also an argument to say that with B&M you will lose slower because you can't really skip spin animation.)

You lose online and you lose playing in B&M. :/

There is one benefit that I can see with playing in land based places. It produces some jobs (not many though.)
Last time I was at my state's casino they had some guy giving people hand towels in the bathroom. Pretty pointless job but a job all the same...

 

[cpdnd31]

Can you play bitcoin casinos? it may help you with your variety and more option to play

 

[mina1929]

A lot of people will not go to land based Casinos, pubs, clubs etc as a lot of people suffer from panic attacks, anxiety, depression etc. Not myself but I know a few.

People like to stay in the comfort of their own home and do whatever they like. The government worry about young people or any person gambling too much which I don't think is really the case They only think of themselves.

A lot of Australians will be playing at some rouge casinos if there is not much choice out there and will be spending more money, slow payments or no payments and no support

Now that we really don't have much of a choice I will be keeping my eye out on Australian friendly Casinos that are reputable.

We need help and support as I am not giving up playing online, I really enjoy it and it relaxes me after a hard days work.

 

[theslotsking]

I prefer land based slots, in NSW they are located everywhere.

With good ol land based you get cash on the spot unless it's a big win so to me I'm not overly concerned as I always have that option.

 

[lockinlove]

What about play & go games ?

I created this thread last week about it Vegas Partner Lounge Group going multi platform

Yes they will offer playngo

 

[Okman]

I'm pissed off. Finally found a good provider and now I'm being forced to one that I personally do not have a large amount of faith in. Below is a copy of an email where some questions I asked where answered. I will not transfer over based on the "shonkyness" of how I perceive the new site to be.

Rizk had me 100%, with a good selection of games and a 24 hour turnaround on any sized withdrawal. Quite a shame really, and not every state offers pokies in pubs, so that's not an option for everyone.

Would love to know if there could in future be any way to get around this, without breaking t's and c's. Maybe they try get licensed in Australia? I don't know.


"Thank you for your e-mail, though the news is sad in the short term, Rizk believe the decision will ultimately be the best for everyone involved in the long run, though the transition will no doubt have some bumps along the way ultimately we think you are going to receive the same great level of service and variety of games you have come to expect.
To answer your questions:

Will it operate in the same spirit as Risk, with the same attitude? - During the process to find a casino who will take over the concern, we worked hard to find a company that will match the attitude of Rizk and continue to offer you the same level of great service.

Will I be considered verified? - Unfortunately due to Data Protection laws we will not be able to transfer your earlier verification documents to House of Jack, this may mean that in the future a documents check would be required once more.

Will I be eligible of any sort of VIP considering my wagering on Rizk? – Though your account will be a new one, House of Jack will be aware of your previous loyalty shown at Rizk and will take account of this when they assign you a VIP level.

Is it run by the Rizk staff or is it a completely different entity? House of Jack are a different company with the same core values and aims as Rizk.


You will of course still be able to keep enjoying Rizk until the end of this month. We would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your loyalty and to wish you all the best of luck at House of Jack, we are sure you are going to love it!"

 

[mina1929]

I created this thread last week about it https://sussexmskpartnershipeast.com/forums/threads/vegas-partner-lounge-group-going-multi-platform.78877/

Yes they will offer playngo

Yes!! as I love Book of Dead

 

[rosie@guts]

Guts Leaving AU

Hey guys, seen your messages about guys leaving AU, I am just getting on a flight so will reply and answer all of your questions asap

 

[naththo]

The only real difference is that you will lose quicker playing the regular pokies because of the lower RTP. (There's also an argument to say that with B&M you will lose slower because you can't really skip spin animation.)

You lose online and you lose playing in B&M. :/

There is one benefit that I can see with playing in land based places. It produces some jobs (not many though.)
Last time I was at my state's casino they had some guy giving people hand towels in the bathroom. Pretty pointless job but a job all the same...

Legal RTP at Adelaide casino and most of pub are 87.5% on regular slot, jackpot machine will have lower RTP to allow the few percentage of fund to be contributed toward jackpot to build up till next jackpot trigger like Aristocrat Lightning Link and Train is 4 different jackpot will have to contribute at least 3% toward 4 different jackpot so RTP becomes 84.5%. 0.5% toward Grand, 0.5% toward Major, 1% toward both mini and minor the common one.

 

[theslotsking]

Pokies are accessible in most states in Australia. I live in Kingscliff NSW which is a small town and there's plenty around.

I never understand why people get hung up on RTP's. That figure is set based on the life of the machine. If a machine has a RTP of 95% it could be cold for months and a machine with a rtp of 85% could be paying out non stop.

The linked jackpots would only take around 1% but there's normally banks of stand alone machines.

 

[naththo]

More than one kind of jackpot will still need well over 1% of it to contribute unfortunately. 1% for mini, 1% for minor, 0.5% for major and 0.5% for grand. 1% is not sufficient for all 4.

 

[mattsgame]

I have clicked my no thank you please DO NOT transfer my account, shall see if they honor it.. the new group is nothing like the GIG group (Guts, Rizk, Betspin).

 

[theslotsking]

I am requesting a withdrawl from any casino that has any funds and will then just close those accounts down. Will prevent my accounts being forwarded on to houseofjack.

It would be good to get clarification from the casino's as to why only some casino's are leaving currently. There are a large number who haven't left yet.

 

[mellen]

State of depression

Will Videoslots still be available to Australians? I love Rizk, Betspin and Guts. Is it because of taxes that Neteller debit cards cannot be used by Australians either?

 

[Flaminace]

no more guts ect

Hi all, Casino Mate now has a new platform -looks like Guts Casino- they welcome australian players but only have a $4000 per week withdrawal limit. i think they will work on that and also work on adding more providers as they only have a limited amount at the moment. i played the download casino with this group and they were very good so could be worth trying them out.

 

[mina1929]

Hi all, Casino Mate now has a new platform -looks like Guts Casino- they welcome australian players but only have a $4000 per week withdrawal limit. i think they will work on that and also work on adding more providers as they only have a limited amount at the moment. i played the download casino with this group and they were very good so could be worth trying them out.

Yes they are good and accredited as well, I have been with them for a while now when they were a download and now they transferred me to the new platform

 

[mina1929]

Will Videoslots still be available to Australians? I love Rizk, Betspin and Guts. Is it because of taxes that Neteller debit cards cannot be used by Australians either?

I very much hope so but will not be able to play some games like Netent etc

As I mentioned earlier if Video Slots kick Aussies out I am moving in with them as it is my favorite of all Casinos.

I would be totally heart broken if we had a break up

 

[Flaminace]

house Of Jack is the same casino group as Casino Mate. Mr Green casino told me that any Australians that we signed up prior to the change will not be blocked from there site?? lets see how we go.

 

[KasinoKing]

house Of Jack is the same casino group as Casino Mate. Mr Green casino told me that any Australians that we signed up prior to the change will not be blocked from there site?? lets see how we go.

It's all very confusing at the moment: some casinos have implied they will still take Aussie players - but that they will not be able to play certain softwares (in particular MG & NetEnt). But with so many casinos already withdrawing completely I don't know if that really is an option for the others, or if they will be forced to pull the plug

Only time will tell I guess...

KK

 

[MissRuthless]

I don't understand what is happening and WHY......

Why can we Australians No longer play where netent is available ?

This house ofjack transfer........ only 4k withdrawl limit... seems to me not worth it ? never heard of them either or know how trustworthy they are/will be ?

Can we play at VS then ?
is MG also not available to us now as well ????

I am so pissed off............ I have been with guts for yrs and loved the netent games especially divine fortune being dedicated to the casino always hoped to win the JP lol

What to do now ?Where CAN we actually play and what platforms ???????

This is just crap.......... I dont understand.......

 

[ladyhawke]

Diamond Reels also gone

You can add Diamond Reels to the (ever increasing) list.

I received the email this morning.

 

[mina1929]

I don't understand what is happening and WHY......

Why can we Australians No longer play where netent is available ?

This house ofjack transfer........ only 4k withdrawl limit... seems to me not worth it ? never heard of them either or know how trustworthy they are/will be ?

Can we play at VS then ?
is MG also not available to us now as well ????

I am so pissed off............ I have been with guts for yrs and loved the netent games especially divine fortune being dedicated to the casino always hoped to win the JP lol

What to do now ?Where CAN we actually play and what platforms ???????

This is just crap.......... I dont understand.......

Its our brain dead government its all about taxes

I heard we will not have MG either