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m3h

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How much did they pay you to change their rating from 4 to 9?
 
How much did they pay you to change their rating from 4 to 9?
When did It change? Review needs updated anyways since their licence has been revoked.

Asking the forum staff questions like this is pointless as sales is handled by Gentoo. As far as ratings go I'm not sure if Gentoo has control of that or if it's still calculated in line with the rating explanation page.
 
As @mulven has said, the moderators at CM play no part in setting or changing the ratings.

We can however pass on feedback and voice our opinion. It would be fair to say that BC.GAME are in need of a review. So, @m3h I will pass on your thoughts and also share some of my own and I will let you know when I have done so.
Who sets the rating and the review?
 
The ratings are done via the business side admin and use a formula with weighting and points awarded for certain criteria i.e. licensing jurisdiction, games, CS, history etc.

Read more here:

Casino Reviews: Rating System Explanation
 
There games have been broken crashing every 20 minutes on both my previous sessions there recently. Which is quite annoying in a middle of a bonus round lol
and that's with all providers on there site.

Besides that,

you won't find a better category of Slots for the UK Player anywhere. Just sucks you gotta use a vpn else they would be 10/10. As it stands now I would rate them an 8.5/10.
 
There games have been broken crashing every 20 minutes on both my previous sessions there recently. Which is quite annoying in a middle of a bonus round lol
and that's with all providers on there site.

Besides that,

you won't find a better category of Slots for the UK Player anywhere. Just sucks you gotta use a vpn else they would be 10/10. As it stands now I would rate them an 8.5/10.

Yep, I've seen a streamer who plays on there and the bandit both having issues of games restarting in the middle of a spin/bonus.

I wonder why the casino hasn't addressed this yet as it has been at least 2 weeks or even longer since I've seen this happen. I don't play there but if I did and this was still happening I'd be annoyed and taking my money elsewhere by now. We all know how infuriating it is when you are losing money and the games keep breaking! :lolup:
 
You would rate them 8.5? Based on what?
you know that this casino is a scam right?
For example the wheel spins are fixed
All their original games are bullshit especially plinko, go ahead and check the reviews under their games
I lost there so much money it's not even funny
Customer service is non existing or just dumb
The vip hosts are bullshit and it's the same person talking under different names and different pictures
Every time the game freezes which you mentioned is not just a glitch. It's you were about to score big shot but their system does not allow the spin because "access is denied" according to developer tools (F12 on desktop)
I could keep going
 
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You would rate them 8.5? Based on what?
As @dunover stated, casinomeister forum staff don't deal with the ratings, its the gentoo administrative side that deal with that. He linked the page which describes what its based on. As another staff member said, its due for a re-do to reflect more recent information/events

you know that this casino is a scam right?
It's a bit dodgy, especially after the the licence revocation and administrative bankruptcy but it's not a scam.

For example the wheel spins are fixed
You'll have to expand on that one, is that a promotional wheel thing where the prizes will have weighted outcomes?

All their original games are bullshit especially plinko, go ahead and check the reviews under their games
I'm pretty sure, like most crypto casino "original games", BC Games original games are provably fair. You just had bad variance. Reviews for games are balderdash because most of the bad ones are just losers (not being mean, people who lost) complaining.

I lost there so much money it's not even funny
You just had bad variance. I've had very bad runs at specific casinos whilst profiting big time everywhere, it can happen.

Customer service is non existing or just dumb
The vip hosts are bullshit and it's the same person talking under different names and different pictures
This is fairly common but a fair criticism.

Every time the game freezes which you mentioned is not just a glitch. It's you were about to score big shot but their system does not allow the spin because "access is denied" according to developer tools (F12 on desktop)
that doesn't mean what you think it does. It's also highly unlikely they are doing what you are suggesting.
 
I dont even feel like answering all your things dude because I know what I know and I didn't play there for 5 minutes as you make it sound when saying ''you just had bad variance''
I have 20 accounts on it and lost probably over 20k in the past month
on every single account the first promo wheel spin landed on 10 cents worth or whatever - right after 1BTC of course [to make you believe you were so close]
if they fixed one thing - its very possible they fix other things - whatever they can - which also fits to my opinion about their original games being bullshit
yeah the games are provably fair but when you go to check the provability you have no idea what to do on there and its not even explained anywhere
not to mention that the whole website for provability checking is owned by bc.game......
for real I dont care what you say or think I am 100% sure they are scamming
their rating on trust pilot is about 2..... and yeah you will probably say ''oh but those reviews were written by losers'' but if this was the case then why other casinos have much better rating?
this is not a coincidence
edit: oh and I forgot to add that stake and bcgame is owned by the same person
 
If you played there for an entire year and played 100,000 spins and lost alot of money it's still bad variance. Depends on the games you play and the volatility ofcourse but those kind of numbers aren't significant enough to diffuse most of the variance. It should definitely make a dent in smoothing things out but it's still easily possible to be on a bad run across even that number of rounds. Then there's also the house edge building up expected losses long term.

The promo wheel is weighted. The 1 BTC prize is going to have an extremely low weighting so that the overall expected value of the wheel spin is in line with what they want it to be. I don't know how many sections they have but if they had 20 sections equally likely to hit and one of them is a bitcoin then each spin would have an EV of $5k. It wouldn't make sense to offer that. It's not a scam it's not rigged in the sense that you will always get a bad outcome but it is "rigged" in the matter of better prizes having lower weighting which is just how these things work. If you thought the bitcoin slice is just as likely as the other slices then that's on you for not thinking critically. Some actual scam sites, especially lawless csgo ones 10 years ago and mystery box websites like "mystery brand" have set weightings to actually be zero whilst adverting them as possible prizes but it's just not likely that bc.game is doing this.

It's not their fault if you don't understand how it works. Probably fair systems are cryptographically intact and reproducible.

You have a client seed (related to your account), a server seed that gets sent from the server before you start playing and a nonce which increments with each bet you place. The client seed and the server seed interact with each other before being augmented by the third variable, your nonce. When you combine the same three variables you will always get the exact same result. It's perfectly random and cannot be tampered with, it's just cryptography. You are encouraging to change your client seed to whatever you want to before you bet anyways if you are worried about it being set up against you.

Trust pilot is a poor indicator for trustworthiness due to three things

-astroturfing, fake reviews being left to make a casino look better or competitors look worse.
-losers and idiots who who have a very poor understanding of how things work and think everything is rigged leaving bad reviews.
-negative bias, people are a lot more likely to leave a review when they have a negative experience than when they have a positive one.

It can be hard to eliminate all that and ser just the rational good and bad reviews.

I'm not saying bc game is a good casino. Some people on the forum swear by it even after what's happened but I wouldn't play there myself, atleast not after recent events.

I just think most of what your are saying is based on poor understanding and irrationality

Where's your proof Edward craven owns BC.game?
 
Lol dude all 20 first spins on 20 different accounts landed exactly on the same 'slice' right after BTC slice and you are trying to tell me it's not fixed?
This got to the point when I wasn't even spinning that wheel anymore because it was a waste of time since I knew exactly what I'm going to hit
I'm not even gonna read the rest of your post lol
What i read is already enough
 
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Lol dude all 20 first spins on 20 different accounts landed exactly on the same 'slice' right after BTC slice and you are trying to tell me it's not fixed?
I'm not even gonna read the rest of your post lol
What i read is already enough
If yourl read what I said, you'd see that I'm saying it is fixed, just not in the way that you think. The wheel will have weighting to correspond to the value of prizes. The lowest prize which you kept getting probably has an extremely high weighting

Also I ignored it before but if you have twenty different accounts that violates term 5.4 nineteen times.
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All of these types wheel spins are "fixed" so to speak. Much the same as jackpot rounds or prize pickers where you have match 3 identical types. It will almost always be the minimum one, even though the board gives you the impression you have an equal chance to hit any of them.
If clients regularly hit the BTC section of bc game wheel, theyd have gone bust a long time ago. I've played a lot of their house "tower" game and ,while frustrating, seems pretty fair to me.
 
Lol dude all 20 first spins on 20 different accounts landed exactly on the same 'slice' right after BTC slice and you are trying to tell me it's not fixed?
This got to the point when I wasn't even spinning that wheel anymore because it was a waste of time since I knew exactly what I'm going to hit
I'm not even gonna read the rest of your post lol
What i read is already enough
Look, for the last time mate, it's a proprietary bonus wheel, it invariably gives the lowest prize in the thousands of spins it offers across the board each day. It's not an audited licensed slot game or game of chance as you would play for real money. The casino could change the range of 'prizes' on it to poo emoticons, 1btc and the rest an empty crumpled drinks can if they chose. It's not subject to regulation in the game sense, the segment size is NOT a representation of your proportionate chance of winning any particular prize which it certainly would be on say a Big Time Gaming or Pragmatic Play slot's red/green gamble wheel. You need to grasp that fact.

I remember as a good example the 'Wheel of Doom' at Rizk casino I span each day, with some good prizes with all segments the same size and yes! invariably I got the lowest 10 free spins each time. It doesn't come under normal regulation as the spin is cost-free and not a paid game.

There's none so blind as those who don't want to see....
 
From experience with BC.Game, i can say that their loyalty and bonus system is just window dressing for fools to make it look impressive. But i've seen other players saying that BC's bonuses are great and all is sweet there. I don't know how it could be possible, but i guess they have custom VIP deals. I'm on level 45 and get chicken feed compared to what i get on other sites.

Other than that, i have nothing bad to say because all i need is to play when i want and get paid promptly when i win, and that's what i get there, plus all they know about me is just an email address, and they process payouts near instantly.

I've mentioned before that they paid me around £16k in BTC in about 30 seconds to Revolut with no questions asked. Revolut's blockchain explorer picks up transactions as soon as something goes to your crypto wallet, so that's how i know this casino's payout times.

Their live chat - i don't care about, i don't use it.

Here are my total deposits during this year, calculated with AI. They could be wrong but not far off.

total-deposits-bc.game.webp

My average deposit based on the above is around €1,054.35. Total cashouts, i guess, could be around 40K max, so let's say 60k is net deposits. I couldn't get precise cashout info for the whole year because their transaction filter allows me to see only up to 90 days.

So about the wheel spins mentioned here. After depositing, you sometimes get a wheel spin. Wins from those spin wins are useless despite my VIP level 45. For example, 1 SHIB, as shown in the image = €0.00002. In my case, i got got 63.7 of them - who needs this nonsense? The most i ever won was around €20 in some obscure coin.

BCL, if you ask, is their own coin that you can use to play lottery... I'm not sure if it's even cashable. In other words, for me it's just another crap.

spin-wins.webp

Just imagine - your average deposit is a grand, and you win a few pennies on some kind of shiny piss-taking machine that they call Super Spin... I'm the kind of man that thinks you either give me something worthy or don't offer anything at all.

And this shows the prizes that await me on the 46th level. I marked with blue dots typical hits based on what i've seen previously over the last 3 years.

wheel.webp


Regarding their games, previously BC.Game (when it was run by BlockDance) had iTech labs certification for some games, and it was available to see in the site footer. But their own games, i think, are a different story because who's going to check and license them? If somebody is more clued in, just go ahead and explain about how they're regulated and who tests them to make sure they run fairly.

Some players on Reddit reported that Ultimate Dice, a game from BC Original's, was manipulated.

 

So pretty much a csgo casino on steroids. Do bc game id players. Could an underage me cash in my skins for crpto and deposit on bc?
I noticed the streamer Rocknrolla mentioned on here so checked him out on youtube
why does he stream outside of uk for his streams seems weird to me
I asked him he said its because he pretty much can't deposit at any uk based casino anymore due to source of wealth checks etc
 
So pretty much a csgo casino on steroids. Do bc game id players. Could an underage me cash in my skins for crpto and deposit on bc?
I noticed the streamer Rocknrolla mentioned on here so checked him out on youtube
why does he stream outside of uk for his streams seems weird to me
I asked him he said its because he pretty much can't deposit at any uk based casino anymore due to source of wealth checks etc

yeah that's true, no age checks there, just an email address and you're good to go. That's based on my own experience, but i've seen others here who were asked for docs. There are some checks only when using real money payments. No age checks is the main thing i don't like about crypto casinos because literally any 6 year old can spot these games and start gambling.
 
So pretty much a csgo casino on steroids. Do bc game id players. Could an underage me cash in my skins for crpto and deposit on bc?
I noticed the streamer Rocknrolla mentioned on here so checked him out on youtube
why does he stream outside of uk for his streams seems weird to me
I asked him he said its because he pretty much can't deposit at any uk based casino anymore due to source of wealth checks etc
rolla he played on other casinos at first, witch they told him you need to play out side UK, now he things BC is the same , I thing next stream his stream from home
 

other day got $1800 BCD from BC gift need to wager 5x
 
no lol on bandit forum they pick 5 players from wage history 1st was $2500 2. $1800 etc and some other winners on $200
I've just looked at that forum post and saw that I won 200 but they haven't credited it to me yet. Did you contact them or was automatically paid in?
 
yeah that's true, no age checks there, just an email address and you're good to go. That's based on my own experience, but i've seen others here who were asked for docs. There are some checks only when using real money payments. No age checks is the main thing i don't like about crypto casinos because literally any 6 year old can spot these games and start gambling.
Like coffzilla said they are only taking advantage of a loophole fair play to them i say, and they are probably more honest than the big names, lets face it uk casino, bookmakers are not what they used to be, what the fraggle is that spin metre thing on the roulette
Refusing to pay sports bet's banning for winning
Take a picture next to your street sign while doing a handstand and rubbing your belly to prove your identity
 
Like coffzilla said they are only taking advantage of a loophole fair play to them i say, and they are probably more honest than the big names, lets face it uk casino, bookmakers are not what they used to be, what the fraggle is that spin metre thing on the roulette
Refusing to pay sports bet's banning for winning
Take a picture next to your street sign while doing a handstand and rubbing your belly to prove your identity
If they ask me to rub my head and belly in opposite directions, I'll never get money from them 🤣
 
Is it possible in that game to get a 0x bonus outcome?
It happened on the 3nd spin when i already had a few euros from the bonus. And when the game reloaded, it just started as you would play it right from the beginning. I wouldn't expect it paying anything crazy like Nolimit as it's a low valotility game where you win something nearly every spin but not a lot. So i just left it there. But it's still shite, it should've not happened.
 
It happened on the 3nd spin when i already had a few euros from the bonus. And when the game reloaded, it just started as you would play it right from the beginning. I wouldn't expect it paying anything crazy like Nolimit as it's a low valotility game where you win something nearly every spin but not a lot. So i just left it there. But it's still shite, it should've not happened.
I've had this happen a few times but just assumed it was a dud bonus. The slots on which it's happened to have the capacity to do a "better luck next time" so I didn't lose much sleep over it. It is definitely annoying though.
 
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