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Baptism by Fire - success Wintingo

The Dude

The Dude

The artist formally known as Casinomeister
Hall Of Fame Awardee Shield Meister
Joined
Jun 30, 1998
Location
Bierland
well i gave the casino a try.
I like it so far,made a withdraw to my skrill account today.
Their suppport said it will take up to 5 days to process the withdraw,but im hoping it will be faster because 5 days to skrill is abit to slow for my taste.

/slotaholic
 
Slotaholic said:
well i gave the casino a try.
I like it so far,made a withdraw to my skrill account today.
Their suppport said it will take up to 5 days to process the withdraw,but im hoping it will be faster because 5 days to skrill is abit to slow for my taste.

/slotaholic
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Please PM me your account details and i can investigate your withdrawal.

Congrats on the winnings :lolup:
 
My experience with first deposit:

1. Received 100% match

2. Completed about 60% of WR and withdrew (clearplay system is used which is GREAT!)

3. Withdrew 18 hours ago

4. Asked for flushing 10 hours ago

5. Paid by Skrill just now.

6. No docs required.


Assessment = BIG THUMBS UP :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Looks like we might be seeing the beginning of a CM favorite in the making :)

My vote is a resounding YES for Accreditation
 
Glad to hear your experience was positive Nifty and congrats again on the winnings. :lolup:


 
Deposited 100€ and tryed IR suddenly i got the "wild desire" and screen went from the blood til nothing, and the reels just keep spinning for 5 min and i went out and in and nothing was threre... a glitch or??:confused::confused:
 

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Osloking said:
Deposited 100€ and tryed IR suddenly i got the "wild desire" and screen went from the blood til nothing, and the reels just keep spinning for 5 min and i went out and in and nothing was threre... a glitch or??:confused::confused:
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Well my best guess would be you lost connection with their server at that point (coincidence - but it does happen).
The "mild-lust" feature returned zip, as it often does, so when you logged back in there was nothing to see.

Can you check this via PlayCheck?
I don't know if these features show in there because I've never looked - but I would think they do.

KK
 
Try making a second withdrawal documents are required.



 
KasinoKing said:
Well my best guess would be you lost connection with their server at that point (coincidence - but it does happen).
The "mild-lust" feature returned zip, as it often does, so when you logged back in there was nothing to see.

Can you check this via PlayCheck?
I don't know if these features show in there because I've never looked - but I would think they do.

KK
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i tried to find it without any sucsess, also on playcheck, but the window dosent allow me to scroll down on the list...

i will send a email to them and hear what they got to say, maybe MG dont know about this.
 
Nifty29 said:
....and your point is?

Are you saying they're no good because they might ask for documents at some point?

I'm not bothered with sending docs if I only have to do it once, like most players.

I stick by my initial opinion that they seem to be a good outfit.
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I thought it sounded like he wanted to in a friendly way tell you that if you will ever get to cash out again, you probably will need to send in documents;)
 
Tirilej said:
I thought it sounded like he wanted to in a friendly way tell you that if you will ever get to cash out again, you probably will need to send in documents;)
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It's possible, but this member has a history of giving casinos a bad rap just for requesting documents. Hence, I figured it was just another complaint about it, which was not warranted IMO.

If I'm wrong, I'll apologise (as always) :)
 
Hi all

I notice the meister has said this casino is microgaming... ctxm... or spin3? What does this mean? There are slot games I've not seen before so I guess this ctxm/spin3 software?

Cheers
 
dandan said:
Hi all

I notice the meister has said this casino is microgaming... ctxm... or spin3? What does this mean? There are slot games I've not seen before so I guess this ctxm/spin3 software?

Cheers
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They are using the MG and CTXM casino software, the only casino that comes to mind that used CTXM is Bodog. You can find more info on them
You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
. As for spin3, well this is just Microgamings mobile software platform.

Cheers
Matt
 
mattsgame said:
They are using the MG and CTXM casino software, the only casino that comes to mind that used CTXM is Bodog. You can find more info on them
You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
. As for spin3, well this is just Microgamings mobile software platform.

Cheers
Matt
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Just to clarify, I'm not entirely sure how CTXM came into the discussion but Wintingo is purely a Microgaming powered brand.
Spin3 is a mobile gaming product powered by Microgaming.
 
wintingo said:
Just to clarify, I'm not entirely sure how CTXM came into the discussion but Wintingo is purely a Microgaming powered brand.
Spin3 is a mobile gaming product powered by Microgaming.
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Perhaps he got confused with 10Bet - also in Baptism by Fire - they DO have MG & CTXM games.

KK
 
Just had a look.

Flash casino, but not the usual "gameassist" one. The games (free mode) run direct from Wintingo, and there is no sign of the server lag problem I seem to get with the standard "gameassist" Flash casinos that partner the download Viper lobbies.

Play was mostly smooth, however I got three "casino error 2" disconnects when trying "Space evader gold".

The "recent winners" list is something of an oddity, as the wins are from games that don't exist at Wintingo, such as Roulette, 3 card poker, Jacks or Better, etc.

This is clearly NOT a local Wintingo winners list, but something covering an entire group, other members of which DO offer these games.

Wintingo has 200 slot or "instant" games, but they do at least have the right ones;)

This is now on my "to do" list for a more thorough testing of this new (for me) Flash based platform (Quickfire?) in real mode. This will come after I have checked the terms for the catch that surely must be there given the type of clearplay rules they are using. I am looking in particular for the "max bet as % of bonus credited" term, expecting it to be around the 25% mark, along with any rule variations covering the SUB (such as must complete all WR in full).
 
I have nothing against Wintingo and I know I've said this a million times but offering a player pretend credits to play with and then charging them 20 dollars to claim them is NOT free. :rolleyes:

This is my email.

Wintingo is giving away 100 credit bonus - No deposit required!

We have just recently launched our magnificent Slot games and all first-time customers are getting the opportunity to try them out with an unbelivable 100 credits free bonus without making a deposit.
Simply signup for an account at Wintingo and the bonus will be waiting for you in your cashier, It takes only a few seconds.
You got absolutely nothing to lose - This is a zero risk promotion.

Register and get your bonus today!

Nowhere in this email does it say you have to pay to get the $100 dollars.

Entering the website from the email I see a huge banner saying "Join now and get $100 free. No deposit required."

Clicking that banner brings me to this page "We will give you 100 Free Credits absolutely free, no deposit required. You will have 1 HOUR to play for the jackpots. If you win using these credits, transfer your winnings to win even MORE money. If you lose? Still claim your 1st Deposit Bonus of 100% up to 100 free."

Still no mention of depositing. Way down at the bottom is the tiny "Terms and conditions" link.

•To be eligible to transfer any winnings, you need to meet the following criteria's within the 1 hour period:

•Made a minimum 20 credits deposit

I have absolutely nothing against this type of bonus. If people want to play for an hour and win their first deposit bonus, that's perfectly acceptable. But it is NOT free.

The emails and banners do not say "$100 play money."
They do not say "You can win a $100 deposit bonus."
In fact they say "No deposit bonus."

"You got absolutely nothing to lose - This is a zero risk promotion."

Is it not true that if I do not risk 20 dollars do I have absolutely no way of turning any of that 100 dollars into real money?

Again, I have nothing against this casino or the Microgaming software but these misleading ads really burn my ass. That's all.
 


Actually, it IS a real "zero risk" promotion. You cannot WIN either, so not only zero risk for the player if they don't win on this free play, but zero risk for the casino since if you win, you can't actually have it without making a deposit, which then makes it a bog standard deposit bonus, not a "free chip".

ALL MGS casinos have been using the free play promotion in this somewhat misleading manner, as you ALWAYS have to deposit in order to move the win into the casino account, and you do NOT "keep what you win", but only the first 100 or so. You then have it credited as a bonus, so even after making the deposit, you don't get to keep anything till you have met WR on the bonus.

These eye catching "no deposit" offers are crap, it is the DEPOSIT offers that follow that are worth looking at. They HAVE to be crap else they would be inundated with free chip hunters who don't care what offers follow.
 

You don't have to tell me all MGS casinos use this, I get a dozen of these a week.

The way it works is it's basically play money to try the games. If you like the games after your hour is up then you have to deposit to continue playing.

If you scroll down past the condition that says you have to deposit 20 to claim the bonus it also says -

•The maximum win or amount that can be transferred is 50 Credits.

So not only do you not get a free 100 dollars, you don't even get a 100 dollar deposit bonus. You get to play with 100 dollars worth of play money for an hour and then you can have a 50 dollar deposit bonus. And to find this out I had to follow the link from the email to one page and then another link from that page to a second page before I was told it was not free money and it was not a 100 dollar bonus.

I'd like anyone from any MGS casino using these types of advertisements to explain to me why this should not be considered an intentional deception.

I have nothing against deposit bonuses if people want to claim them. If MGS wants to hand people some play money first to try the games that's fine too. Just stop pretending you're giving something away for free.
 
The whole thing has been brought into disrepute by the operators the same way the "100 free spins for xxx deposited and played" was by the BelleRock group in the infamous Christmas "Gift Crap" promo. The 100 spins turned out to be ONE line at ONE cent. Their excuse was that they had to guard against some lucky player hitting the jackpot.

After the fiasco, things improved a little, and the next one was 500% better, FIVE lines at one cent:rolleyes:

This one hour free play promo is often advertised as "keep your winnings", and the smallprint started off with a max of 200, then 100, and now even this has been reduced to 50, making the whole thing pointless.

This promo is going to give a poor impression, and it would be better to get rid of it altogether and just have the standard SUB.

MPV tournaments are now being run into the ground by a spate of cancellations DURING play, and one instance of one being cancelled about 15 minutes after the end, when placings and prizes had already been posted and finalised on the scoreboard. Instead of paying the prizes, the event was cancelled and only the buyin and continues refunded. The excuse given was pretty poor, and for a tournament that had ended already, made no sense.

Now, not only are tournaments getting cancelled, new ones are not even being listed TO cancel.

The usual set of "slots league" tournaments at Royal Vegas has now evaporated to just two, and one of those shows as cancelled. The rest never even got listed, let alone cancelled.

There is nothing left for operators to bring into disrepute, as they did this to Clearplay right from the start, one thing at least that Wintingo is NOT guilty of, and is a rare example of Clearplay being run as described in the Microgaming "press release" for it's launch.
 

Hi Vinylman I have already now helped looking on this :thumbsup:

There is absolute no standard terms for the clearplay bonus. How much you can max bet.
ONLY on the 1st Deposit 100% offer there is >>


Terms and Conditions
Wintingo will match your 1st deposit with a 100% bonus, up to a maximum of 100 credits, and it will be automatically credited into your bonus balance.
The minimum deposit for this promotion is 20 credits.
If any winnings are transferred successfully from the Free Credits Promotion, the 1st deposit Match-up bonus will be no longer available
This offer may NOT be used in conjunction with any other sign-up offer
The 1st deposit Match-up bonus carries a 60X wagering requirement
The 1st deposit bonus carries a maximum of 5% bet limit that applies to the sum of your first deposit and its correlated bonus amount, up to 10 credits. This limitation applies until the bonus is completed in one of the following ways:
Meeting the play-through requirements on your 1st deposit bonus
Losing your first deposit bonus and then making a deposit
Forfeiting your bonus by making a withdrawal
Manually removed by casino support
Example: if a player deposits 50 credits and receives a 50-credit first deposit bonus, the player’s total balance is 100 credits. The maximum bet is limited to 5 credits per bet, until the bonus is completed as described above. Any additional deposits and bonuses received will increase the total amount of the 5% maximum bet limit, until the player reaches the 10-credit maximum bet amount.
Only one Real Money account per household is eligible for this bonus.
Click here for the complete ClearPlay Bonus System terms and conditions
In the event of any dispute, the decision of Wintingo Management will be considered final.
Participation in this promotion is subject to acceptance of WinTingo's full Terms & Conditions and General Bonus Terms.

That is what their rules are...

So if a player deposits £20 gets £20 bonus = £40/5%= Means you can bet max £2 on any spin, as I understand it. And on a £100 its £10.

Also found these T&T.... Really don't like especially the one I have marked in BOLD/underline :eek:

EXCLUSION, SUSPENSION AND TERMINATION
6.1 We may refuse to register you as a player at any or all of the Sites or elect to de-register, exclude or suspend you as a player from a Site at any time, for any reason or for no reason whatsoever.
6.2 You acknowledge that we have no obligation whatsoever to provide you with prior notice of our decision to refuse, de-register, exclude or suspend you as a player, nor are we required to furnish you with any reasons for such decisions.
6.3 If we de-register, exclude or suspend you from a Site, we shall have the unlimited right to:
6.3.1 withhold payment to you of any contested funds, whether such funds are deposits, refunds, bonuses, free monies, Site credits, payouts or the like;
6.3.2 exclude you from any other Site that is affiliated with site;
6.3.3 establish the specific criteria with which you must comply in order to be allowed access to the Site (and your account, if applicable); and
6.3.4 furnish information about you to law enforcement agencies (if the reason for such termination, de-registration, exclusion or suspension was fraud or some other form of illegal misconduct), collection agencies and/or intra-group site databases. You hereby irrevocably authorize us to do so in our absolute discretion.
6.4 In the case of suspected or fraudulent payment, including use of stolen credit cards, or any other fraudulent activity (including any chargeback or other reversal of a payment), we reserve the right to block a user's account, reverse any pay-out made and recover any winnings. We shall be entitled to inform any relevant authorities or entities (including credit reference agencies) of any payment fraud or otherwise unlawful activity, and may employ collection services to recover payments. However, under no circumstances shall we liable for any unauthorized use of credit cards, irrespective of whether or not the credit cards were reported stolen.

for no reason whatsoever.

So If i suddenly get a very good run, get lucky and win lets say a small jackpot around £10.000, then they can go and close my account without any notice and keep my winnings??? :eek:
 
Also Would be nice If they would mention all the so called other Sites, they would remove a player from and close accounts??? :mad:
 
Not very good, nor very clearly worded.

Players are NEVER deregistered for "no reason", there is ALWAYS some kind of reason for doing this, unless we are to believe they use their RNG to randomly select players for getting the boot.

They cannot deny liabilty for unauthorised use of credit cards either, they just don't have the power. The banks will MAKE them liable, whether they like it or not. They are more or less telling players to "take it up with your bank, not us" if a credit card is stolen, then used at the casino. This means that the bank will recover the money in a formal manner that will give them a black mark with their processor, rather than an informal process that keeps their record clean.

They also reserve the right to reverse payments already made, which we KNOW they can do with an eWallet, and even a bank account if they are quick enough.

The max bet term for the SUB is the lowest I have seen, even though it still allows a substantial bet of 10 credits for the full bonus. The WR is DOUBLE the standard though, and this is probably how they can offer withdrawal at any time with forfeit of bonus.

The terms demonstrate the obvious, that "too good to be true" headline offers often have a nasty sting in the tail, or smallprint.

It's rather what I expected to find, the max bet term is there, and a higher than usual WR is also there.

The other stuff looks more sinister than it is, and will unnecesarily scare off players because of the way it is worded, rather than how it will be used in practice.

Their provisional accreditation shows that Bryan believes the "sinister stuff" will be used fairly, i.e. against fraudsters.

At present, they don't openly admit to having "sister" casinos, but the presence of "recent winners" on games that just don't exist at Wintingo is evidence that there IS a group involved. This could cause problems for some players when it comes to group wide terms, as they have no way of knowing which other casino is included when these terms stipulate a prohibition such as "once per player throughout the group". The group to which they belong SHOULD be shown alongside the group wide terms, or at least the "about us" section.
 
Not happy with this casino. I know I can contact the Rep here. And will maybe try tomorrow. Just to tired now, so can only blame myself :(
Just been on livechat for half hour wait!!!! Asked about the Scratchback promotion they run, will show it here, so You all know what I am on about ;)

Welcome to the WinTingo’s Scratchback program, where you can accumulate up to 500 Credits in Free Bonuses! To enjoy the offer all you have to do is DEPOSIT & PLAY during your first FIVE visits to WinTingo. Your account will automatically be credited with individual "Scratchback" bonus rewards for each of your FIVE visits.

1st Visit
Earn 25% on losses or 10% on Winnings
2nd Visit
Earn 20% on losses or 10% on Winnings
3rd Visit
Earn 25% on losses or 10% on Winnings
4th Visit
Earn 20% on losses or 10% on Winnings
5th Visit
Earn 25% on losses or 10% on Winnings

Scratchback Terms & Conditions
A single visit includes winnings and losses within a 24 hour period, 12:00 am to 12:00 am EST, not including Daylight Savings time. Example: Three log-ins within a 24 hour period are calculated as one visit
Each reward is based on your net account balance. Net account balance is calculated as the outcome of: Sum of winnings minus sum of loses minus any bonuses that were used during each visit.
The minimum bonus per visit is 5 credits and the maximum bonus per visit is 100 credits
Please note that the free bonus value requires a 30x play-through
The General Terms of use apply
Page Last updated: 21/12/2011 - 11:45AM EST

Okay... On my first Visit i deosited £100 and lost it all. They only paid me £6 despite it should be £25 right :mad:
It did speak to live chat last week about this. Also did not get any really answer on this. But they gave me small free £5 bonus for the trouble.
Second now I started deposits 48 hours ago. Made 5 deposit with total £135 and lost it all on my sessions.
This should then give me £27. But their promotion site where you can check, just still says Current Visit. And still nothing given??? :mad:

Sorry guys, is it just me that has misunderstood this promotion?? Or is it another misleading promotion from Wintingo's casino? :(

What makes even more angry is, Waiting on livechat for around 30 minutes. Sorry we are checking into this for you. (i have cut down the chat text, so not annoying you all with the whole chat, but just to show)

You are now chatting with Lexi
Lexi: Hi , I'm Lexi from Wintingo’s Live Chat support, how may I assist you?
Me: hi ther
Me: there
Me: Could you please help in regards to Scratchback promotion
Lexi: Yes how may i help you ?
Me: I played around 48 hours ago my 2nd visit and made deposit for around £135 and only had loses, so i am waiting for the 20% given on 2nd visit, which should be £27 but its still saying Current Visit???
Me: Also I did not get correct for my 1st visit, Only £6 , had £100 deposit, and lost all, should had been credited £25 = 25% of £100
Me: not really happy about this :(

Then she said she would check my account and look into this, Which of course was nice. What also annoys is this >>

Lexi: For security reasons, I will need to confirm a few details first. Please provide the following information:
Full name
Email address
Telephone number
Date of birth
Full home address with the city, country and postal code

Every time you go on there, All this info has to be given for security reasons??? I all the best casinos dont need all this info every time :mad:
Ok lets move on....

Lexi: xxxxx, i would like to let you know that we will forward this issue to our promotional department, and we will contact you as soon as we receive a reply.
Me: Oh no, so no answer after all this waiting? i could just had sent an email :(
Lexi: We can not give you an answer right now, please be sure that we are escalating the issue for a satisfying resolution.
Me: ok thanks i will wait, can I expect it within next 24 hours or longer?
Lexi: To receive a reply please allow up to 48 hours.
Me: ok thanks

This is just a joke, all this waiting and no answer. I would say proper support like 32RED just to mention casino of the decade here. They would had said this after couple of minutes.... Instead wasted all this time for nothing.

Sorry for posting this, but need to get it out :p Just wasted another 10 minutes writing this. But this thread is Baptism by fire. And we need to tell about our experiences with this casino. It all looked very nice and good. But my opinion has now changed to they should not be acredited. I will also not be making any more deposits here. Will try my luck when I receive the bonus money I have and that's it! :what:

UPDATE. I have now also contacted Wintingo REP. There are lot of issues in here which needs answers. Like to Clearplay bonus rules. Also why players can just suddenly be banned with no reasons. And then these promotions which is not giving what they should do. Misleading promotions.
 

A couple of things based on my own experience.

The freeplay promotion is awful. You get $100 which you have to wager 30x in an hour on a very small set of slots. It's very tough to "earn" your $50 bonus which is NOT free. The only decent freeplays were when they first came out years ago....there was no minimum wagering, you started with $500 or $1000, and you could transfer winnings as soon as you won $100 over your balance, and you could play most games. The bets were limited to about $2.50 but it was still pretty easy to reach.

The scratchback promotion, I was told afterwards, does not include the first deposit. Also, you need to subtract bonuses from your losses before applying the 20%.

IMO you are being unreasonable about the support. The rep was totally professional and polite. It is also not unusual to be asked for personal details for verification. I'd be more concerned if they didn't ask, as anyone with your account number or alias could access your account. I also think that it is much better for a CSR to forward the query up the chain rather than give an incorrect or made up answer. It seems CSRs can't win with some players.....it is very unusual for CSRs to know all the technical details of a promotion and certainly can't be expected to troubleshoot errors.

Im certain the rep will assist. Just ensure you allow 48 hours minimum for a reply, and perhaps longer due to the weekend.
 

Hi Nifty thanks for your input. Let me comments on this >

The scratchback promotion, I was told afterwards, does not include the first deposit. Also, you need to subtract bonuses from your losses before applying the 20%.

Can you answer me why I got £6 for my first visit? Only made the £100 deposit and got £100 bonus=25% of 0 = 0

IMO you are being unreasonable about the support. The rep was totally professional and polite. It is also not unusual to be asked for personal details for verification.

I did not complain in general about this CSR, yes she was polite and trying to be helpful. But surely they would had players asking the same before, and instead of all this long wait. She could had come back earlier and told me she would forward this. I would then not had been waiting this long, and would been fine with this. :rolleyes:
What I mean is, not sure what was being checked, as clearly they are not able to answer questions on this in support. Seemed like she was maybe assisting other players, but yes I understand they might be very busy :)

It is also not unusual to be asked for personal details for verification. I'd be more concerned if they didn't ask, as anyone with your account number or alias could access your account.

Nifty they do not ask for all this at any of the bigger accredited casinos here at casinomeister, so you stating it is not unusual is not correct! to mention a few 32RED, Club World Casino Group, Jackpot Factory etc. do not ask any apart from account numbers. They cut straight to the case.

I also think that it is much better for a CSR to forward the query up the chain rather than give an incorrect or made up answer. It seems CSRs can't win with some players.....it is very unusual for CSRs to know all the technical details of a promotion and certainly can't be expected to troubleshoot errors.


Yes agree of course it is. Which yes she did, but not until the half hour had elapsed. And yes i respect they might not know all the technical details of a promotion. But I contacted them in hope that maybe someone there would now. Instead this half hour could had been cut down to maximum 10 minutes or less. Yes she obvious tried what she could, I am thankful to her for that. Not her fault end of the day.
 


Cool.

The ID verification thing depends on where you're accessing the chat function from. If you open it from inside the software, the CSR can see this and automatically IDs you as you obviously have the password to access the casino in the first place. When you access chat from the website, you would normally have to provide ID unless the casino is pretty slack. Since wintingo is no download, they may not be able to use auto ID.

It's odd you received cashback on first deposit. Did you deposit again within 24 hours? It works on a 24 hr session basis rather than per deposit. Otherwise, I'm at a loss to explain....unless they calculate actual wagering etc and not straight deposits and cashouts etc.
 
Hi Nifty29 ;)

Yes thanks for explaining in regards to vertification now. I follow you now and understand. I did not think about it that way :D
But I am also mainly upset with the misleading promotion.
I have a bad feeling that it will be a bit like Sky Vegas. Where I also did not get anything from deposits of almost £200. Where they stated its based on winnings/losing. But I do not understand this at all. Because end of day, a loss is a loss right? If I deposit lets say £100, and after hours of play. Then If they are gone and I lost and now withdrawal. Then its a total loss right? and 20% would be £20.
The promotion Aladdins Gold(CWC~) is running sometimes, shows how its done proper. Play this weekend and we give 20% cashback on Monday. I got exact 20% of what I made in deposits. Because I lost on them.

But to be fair, they gave me £6 on my first deposit. Which yes makes no sense. I did player for several hours. I actually made it up to around £700 really quick. Could had withdrawn, but wanted to show loyalty towards casino. So wonder if that's why I got £6 because I made lots of winnings?
But as I said very confused. As the amount you deposit will also be the amount you have lost after a session?? And no I only made the one deposit £100 and £100 given in bonus on first visit. Here are my deposits with them.

24 Feb 2012 GB £ 100.00 GB £ 100.00
1 Mar 2012 GB £ 35.00 GB £ 35.00
1 Mar 2012 GB £ 35.00 GB £ 35.00
1 Mar 2012 GB £ 25.00 GB £ 25.00
1 Mar 2012 GB £ 20.00 GB £ 20.00
1 Mar 2012 £ 20.00 GB £ 20.00

So today it's 3th March. Its still saying current visit on promotion page under 2nd visit. So even yes like you said last deposit. But that is also more than 48 hours now :) I made these deposits within a short timeframe, did not have any playtime almost. I am really confused in regards to Net account balance is calculated as the outcome of: Sum of winnings minus sum of loses
But let's stop all the thinking and discussion. And wait for the Rep to come and help here.
I am sure he can explain much better. But yes I am so confused in regards to cashback promotion, when they don't state deposits. But use the phrase Winnings/losses........
 
Osloking said:
They are conected to all slots, as i saw it on the window the first day i registred on the thunderstruk "welcome to all slots casino"! - FAIL! lol
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I heard this, but saw no sign of it when I visited. It would, however, explain how "recent winners" can be listed as having won at Roulette, Blackjack, Poker etc when such games don't exist at Wintingo.

It also means that the terms relating to "other casinos in the group" are referring to All Slots and other casinos in the JF group. The problem here is that this association is hidden from players, and these are terms they cannot comply with unless they know that the other casinos in the group are the JF casinos. A player could have fallen out with JF, and decided to "take his custom elsewhere", finding Wintingo as the next new casino to benefit from his deposits. Depending on the nature of the falling out with JF, this association could be a KEY piece of information the player needs when deciding whether to join Wintingo, or keep looking.
 

Let's see if I got this link-thing right.
It was discussed in another thread not so long ago. Remember VWM?
https://sussexmskpartnershipeast.com/forum...e-part-of-allslotscasino-or-am-i-wrong.48829/
 
Thomas82 said:
As posted in the other thread, I can only highly recommend WinTingo as they paid a $4200 win within 48 hours back to my debit card.

They didn't even request ID or copies of the card :eek:
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THAT is how casinos MUST do their business! :thumbsup:
If a player is using the same card / e-wallet for deposits and withdrawals and didn't break any casino terms - pay him without questions asked!
 
Tirilej said:
Let's see if I got this link-thing right.
It was discussed in another thread not so long ago. Remember VWM?
https://sussexmskpartnershipeast.com/forum...e-part-of-allslotscasino-or-am-i-wrong.48829/
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I remember, and the rep clarified by stating that although they are a "white label" of All Slots, they are separately owned, and run all their promotions separately, there being no problems having accounts and claiming promotions at both.

So, WHY in the terms and conditions do they keep referring to "sister sites" without defining them. If they are separate, they shouldn't care what a player has claimed or won from All Slots, or even whether All Slots have excluded them. After all, most exclusions are down to "suspicions" rather than positive proof, and a number of players have problems getting one operator to accept they are playing in good faith, yet have NO such problems at any other casino.

The problem here is that if the trouble was at All Slots, then the experience at Wintingo is NOT going to be what they would expect from a completely different operation, new owners, new policies, etc. This may also explain cases where players are excluded from Wintingo for "no reason". It wouldn't be "no reason", but something to do with their previous activity with All Slots, who would share this data with the Wintingo owners, who would probably react by taking it a face value and excluding the player. This is similar to how the Rival system worked, and this was not popular here because players expected that casinos keep their data within the group, and not share it with third parties, which was the case with most Rival operators who claimed they were separately owned and run, but just happened to have Rival do the processing and sever maintenance for them, and in some cases the CS.
 


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