New Slot Announcement 4 Deals withe Devil by 4ThePlayer ?

[4ThePlayer]

Good Morning Casinomeister!

Today is the network release of our latest game 4 Deals with the Devil, via Relax Gaming.

The game is 95% RTP + DE RTP with 4,096 Ways with High volatility and has a max win of 5,000 x Bet.

This one is different and super innovative, for the first time you can actually choose your bonus based on the frequency and potential.....

Choose your deal and pick the bonus you want to play for: do you want to cool down with frequent Free Spins features, or are you willing to turn up the heat and potentially wait for Xtra Hot features and infernal payouts?

Land scatters to trigger any bonus you didn’t pick and spin the wheels of hell for a chance to play it! Each Free Spins mode guarantees 1-4 Wild Devil Ladies on the reels – play Xtra Hot for 4 Wild Devil Ladies that jump and expand through the feature!



Land Wild Devil Ladies in view on the reels to trigger a Wild Respin, where Wilds lock on the reels and grow to create the hottest wins! Find out how wild you like your wins: Cool, Medium, Hot, or Xtra Hot!

We hope you like it and look forward to hearing what you think!

 

[Siohmy]

Looks interesting. You guys are normally great with the facts behind the slots (unlike many). Are you able to confirm the odds for each feature hitting?
Like, is rare feature Bonanza levels of rare or slightly better or, *gulp*, worse?!

 

[paul7388]

Tried it last week before it got took down at William Hill. Came back yesterday and can not get it loading again.

Was a different slot and quite fun. Seems totally scripted and predetermined tho. Get the top bonuses and wilds seem to go to end 3 rows or land on same row. Biggest wins were actually from the lowest bonus and base game.

 

[Webzcas]

Also covered here: 4 Deals with the Devil

 

[4ThePlayer]

Looks interesting. You guys are normally great with the facts behind the slots (unlike many). Are you able to confirm the odds for each feature hitting?
Like, is rare feature Bonanza levels of rare or slightly better or, *gulp*, worse?!

Glad you like the look of it!

Yep, where possible we always try to share information, so here you go:

The feature frequency for Xtra Hot is not as far out as some other providers, based on public information we have seen ?

There is also more info if you click on example wins, where you can see example real wins:

 

[4ThePlayer]

Tried it last week before it got took down at William Hill. Came back yesterday and can not get it loading again.

Was a different slot and quite fun. Seems totally scripted and predetermined tho. Get the top bonuses and wilds seem to go to end 3 rows or land on same row. Biggest wins were actually from the lowest bonus and base game.

We use a few 3rd party platforms for our games, this one is via Relax. Unfortunately, they were having a few tech issues last week so the game, and all of their games, did come down while they resolved it. This is now fixed and it should be working again today.

Glad you found it fun when you did play it. In terms of fixed, all our games work on a random and certified RNG (random number generator). As we show in the example wins the bigger potential is in the hotter bonuses.

 

[spoo42]

Just stuck a tenner onto VS to have a go at this seeing as i spotted this post.

I like the look and feel of it. I started on the cool setting, and managed 2 bonuses both paying exactly the same i think (24x i think it was) and then i moved to medium and hit bonus again and managed around 35x? From then on it did nothing and took the £13 i had left in my balance lol (i play minimum bet) paying the occasional pennies in the base game.

Have to agree with mention above (i understand its all random and stuff) but particularly the 'flaming bonus tease' thing almost always (note, almost, not quite lol), drops 3 bonus symbols in and thats it, no matter what reel, you seem to either get 3 bonus symbols, or the required or more for the bonus - there never seems an 'ooh 7, nearly!'. Although i do like that it does this tease quite regularly.

In the bonuses it did feel a bit 'predictable' (again, i get rng etc) as in the cool bonus once the wild had expanded , in both bonuses it would go and stick itself to the last reel And in the one medium bonus i had, they stuck together until the last 2 or 3 spins of the bonus then one went to the left of the screen and the other went to the last reel, giving me no wins in the last few spins.

I'll certainly try it again, but may well just go for the hot setting.

 

[4ThePlayer]

Thanks for taking it for a spin Great to hear you like the look and feel of it.

Congrats on getting 3 bonuses, hopefully, this helps highlight the concept - you can choose your own heat and the bonus and potential frequency to play for.

In terms of anticipation, the game displays anticipation every time 3 or more scatters land on the reels, which means you will commonly see 3 scatters.

With regards to the wilds, sorry to hear you were unlucky with them - it's worth pointing out on COOL and MEDIUM the wilds do not move on every spin. So if you are unlucky and they end up somewhere less fortunate, you might need to wait for a few spins for them to move.

 

[Siohmy]

Tried it last week before it got took down at William Hill. Came back yesterday and can not get it loading again.

They’re probably horrified that they have a 95% slot on their site and are scrambling to find the 92% version.

I’m not even joking.

 

[curremon]

Absolutely worst "super bonus" ive seen... That "random" wild positioning and scatter blocking allways wins IS just ridicilous.... 5 buys and best one paid 60% of The cost... + Game lags like Hell on phone... Never again

 

[greylady]

I liked the look of the slot and it looked quite fun but after seeing various people playing it, the wilds always seemed to stay to the right of the screen, this happened continuously. I might have a wee shot but never had any luck with any of your slots previously.

 

[4ThePlayer]

Absolutely worst "super bonus" ive seen... That "random" wild positioning and scatter blocking allways wins IS just ridicilous.... 5 buys and best one paid 60% of The cost... + Game lags like Hell on phone... Never again

Sorry to hear you had an unlucky experience, the WILD movement is random. This is a highly volatile game, If you look at the example bonus wins (click the button when you open the game) you can see the range of wins in that bonus. You might enjoy a less volatile game?

Thanks for the heads-up on mobile performance issues on XTRA HOT we will investigate!

 

[4ThePlayer]

I liked the look of the slot and it looked quite fun but after seeing various people playing it, the wilds always seemed to stay to the right of the screen, this happened continuously. I might have a wee shot but never had any luck with any of your slots previously.

Pleased to hear you like the look of it and thanks for thinking of giving it a try

One more thing to say on the movement of the wilds, on a 'standard free spins bonus' you often see a range of wins in each spin, from epic to small - you just see the result. On 4 Deals with the Devil, due to the movement, you see the potential in every spin and the experience changes.

 

[dunover]

Overall an interesting and visually appealing slot, far better than most new releases. It's always nice to have a pick of feature volatility too, although that's not exactly a new concept. Obviously the volatile feature choices will have loaded reels that are somewhat frustrating to watch but that's to be expected as they are geared up to pay the huge wins when everything falls into the right place and that of course is going to be the exception.

Hey - an idea about your numbering strategy in game titles which places them first in game lists alphabetically i.e. falling beore letter 'A'. I wonder if the next title, what with winter coming up, could be something like '-20c Cruel Winter'

 

[4ThePlayer]

Overall an interesting and visually appealing slot, far better than most new releases. It's always nice to have a pick of feature volatility too, although that's not exactly a new concept. Obviously the volatile feature choices will have loaded reels that are somewhat frustrating to watch but that's to be expected as they are geared up to pay the huge wins when everything falls into the right place and that of course is going to be the exception.

Hey - an idea about your numbering strategy in game titles which places them first in game lists alphabetically i.e. falling beore letter 'A'. I wonder if the next title, what with winter coming up, could be something like '-20c Cruel Winter'

Thank you, glad it stands out as far better than most new releases

BONUS DEAL is new as it's not just about volatility, but the feature frequency and the potential of each bonus, and the chance if you are playing one you can win the other. It's very different to any other pick-a-volatility slot that has been before, take for a spin and you will see the journey.

-20c hahahah sadly we cannot use symbols before our names, trust me just having numbers first has caused enough headaches ?

 

[curremon]

@4ThePlayer why have you made that "extra scatter feature" so obvious ? I mean was it too hard to program it to Even look that its random ? If you get Stack of 3 scatters its over, IT never Gets you to wheel , but you allways get 3 . If you see 1 or 2 scatters Land you Are guaranteed to get wheel. Kinda lame that you know its over If 3 scatters Land on first reel during that "feature"...

 

[ChopleyIOM]

The problem I have with the tiering of the bonuses is that the crap ones pay crap. Sounds rather obvious I know, but a lot of the excitement of a feature comes from the fact you don't know if it's going to pay big or not, if it's effectively baked into the design that it's going to be a bag of bottoms then much of the sense of anticipation is removed.

Also the wilds feel really gimped when they're moving around, to the point of extreme frustration.

Still, like all of 4ThePlayer's output it looks and sounds very nice, and does seem to have had some development effort spent on it, unlike many releases these days that appear to have been knocked out by an intern on their afternoon off.

 

[curremon]

The problem I have with the tiering of the bonuses is that the crap ones pay crap. Sounds rather obvious I know, but a lot of the excitement of a feature comes from the fact you don't know if it's going to pay big or not, if it's effectively baked into the design that it's going to be a bag of bottoms then much of the sense of anticipation is removed.

Also the wilds feel really gimped when they're moving around, to the point of extreme frustration.

Still, like all of 4ThePlayer's output it looks and sounds very nice, and does seem to have had some development effort spent on it, unlike many releases these days that appear to have been knocked out by an intern on their afternoon off.

Nope.. wild movement is defenitely random DD It doesnt even look random

 

[4ThePlayer]

Good Morning,

Sorry to read a few of you have been unlucky, everything in the game is certified as random. This is all part of the process when releasing a slot.

The tease on the scatters is all part of the fun as you never know what can land.

Regarding tiering the bonus and the different heats, 4 Deals with the Devil is not just about the potential of each bonus but the feature frequency. How often would you potentially like a bonus? You can choose one with higher potential however you might have to wait a little longer for it. Have a look at the example bonus wins to see real example bonus wins.

There is still a lot of excitement as even when you have chosen a heat if you are lucky you can win the hotter bonus with higher potential ?

@ChopleyIOM glad you like our output and the effort that has gone into it.

 

[curremon]

"The tease on the scatters is all part of the fun as you never know what can land.". But you do... Hit Stack of 3 = no more will appear

 

[paul7388]

"The tease on the scatters is all part of the fun as you never know what can land.". But you do... Hit Stack of 3 = no more will appear

That's what I hate about it it is badly done.

Get 1 scatter then you have a chance.

I actually had the tease 6 times in 10 spins last night. 3 times the 3 scatters landed on reel 1 so right away you know it can't land feature. Other times the 3 scatters landed on another reel.

Even if it had been designed to drop just 1 scatters on reels you might not get the feature but at least if 1 scatter landed on reel 1 you would have a chance.

And so bad that every losing tease gives 1 reel with 3 scatters on it. Why not design it to just throw 3 losing scatters across the reels.

 

[toms596]

I had it last night dropping one on the first couple of reels then a 3 to make 7 scatters. I had to gamble for the 8th which lost unfortunately

 

[paul7388]

I had it last night dropping one on the first couple of reels then a 3 to make 7 scatters. I had to gamble for the 8th which lost unfortunately

Yeah that's what I mean. If you get 1 scatter on 1st reel you know you at least have a chance of getting bonus or the gamble but if it throws 3 scatters on any reel first you know that's it.

 

[4ThePlayer]

When the fire appears around the reels, the game will use a special reel set which has reels which have both a mix of large chunks of scatters and a mix of large chunks without any scatters. If you see just 3 scatters, then you likely hit 1 reel in the centre of a chunk with lots of scatters, whereas the other 5 reels hit in areas with no scatters.

It is perfectly possible to see 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24 scatters in view where fire lights up reels. Other times you may see just 1 or 2 from the special scatter reel sets so we don't tease it with fire.

 

[curremon]

Absolute fucking joke....

 

[paul7388]

See it gets curremons seal of approval lol.

 

[4ThePlayer]

Absolute **** joke....

Hopefully, your luck changes, as we said there is a range of scatters on the reels and scatters do form part of the reel bands so you are going to see them. Perhaps this is not the game for you, when the fun stops, stop. We appreciate not every game is for every player and it's important to find a game you enjoy! Hopefully, you enjoy our next game better.

 

[Siohmy]

I have had a chance to give it a quick go and got lucky fairly quickly as an expanding wild landed on reel 3 in the base game followed by one on both reels 1 and 2 for something like a 200x win.

However, will try to be objective as it is too easy to be results orientated after good/bad luck.

I agree the tease is both too frequent and too frustrating. It quickly becomes a case of “oh here’s another pretend chance at the bonus which will rarely hit”. It is one of my big frustrations with early Blueprint offerings that they went overboard with teases which didn’t hit. Now a bonus tease itself is not a bad thing but drawing attention to something which will often not come in is not a great mechanic. Will just frustrate people quickly.

I do like the idea you can play a certain bonus level and still have a chance to trigger other levels. I can often approach a session looking to “go big or go home” or for some fun play so these do cater for that. Obviously this is just bonus frequency so the base game looks like it can be pretty brutal. Nature of another HV/UHV slot I guess.

I can see myself returning for another go but will have to ignore the flaming reels as just another spin.

 

[sapit222]

Ive tested it a few times now.

For the first few minutes it seems to be a "fun" game.

But..

Lots of bonus features with 3 scatters that dont do anything?
I dont see the point with that.
Much better with something that just starts the bonus directly, not trying to create some suspense or whatever.
Got 3-4 bonuses so far and the best win is x20ish. The wild devil seems to be stuck at reel 4 and 5 mostly.

 

[curremon]

Hopefully, your luck changes, as we said there is a range of scatters on the reels and scatters do form part of the reel bands so you are going to see them. Perhaps this is not the game for you, when the fun stops, stop. We appreciate not every game is for every player and it's important to find a game you enjoy! Hopefully, you enjoy our next game better.

All those Are flaming features since you cant get Stack of 3 without IT... Why IT has to "randomly" Be 99% of The Time like that you get only 3... Was IT too hard to program it Give like 1 - 1 - 1 or 1 - 2 etc...

 

[curremon]

And IT sure doesnt help after getting like 20 Times 3 scatter "feature" i got 10 scatters 2 Times in a row just to see wheel what results "better luck next time"

 

[4ThePlayer]

I have had a chance to give it a quick go and got lucky fairly quickly as an expanding wild landed on reel 3 in the base game followed by one on both reels 1 and 2 for something like a 200x win.

Nice, congratulations and thanks for giving it a go

We are looking at the fire tease and apologies if some of you find it frustrating - we are working on a way to show the fire animation less, although the odds and math are exactly the same.

 

[Siohmy]

Nice, congratulations and thanks for giving it a go

We are looking at the fire tease and apologies if some of you find it frustrating - we are working on a way to show the fire animation less, although the odds and math are exactly the same.

From a purely personal point of view I’d have it reduced to a frequency where at least 1 in 3 are successful. Some may feel 50/50 or better is right but I guess you need to balance the excitement and frequency of the tease with the likelihood of it landing. Just feels a bit off by the sounds of things.

 

[4ThePlayer]

It is always a fine balance, some players really enjoy tease and some do not so we need to try to keep everyone happy

 

[Siohmy]

Absolute fucking joke....

The 3 in a row scatter tease Is pretty jarring for sure.

 

[paul7388]

It is always a fine balance, some players really enjoy tease and some do not so we need to try to keep everyone happy

That is the thing if the tease was designed better it would be fine.

Not sure you are understanding what people mean so try and explain.

The tease for feature is a good idea and would be fine and interesting if executed better.

People play slots to get a bonus. So when they get the tease it should add anticipation and excitement. Say it was designed that if 3 scatters dropped in first and you had a chance of others dropping it would be fine. People would go okay 3 scatters to start hopefully at least one more will drop and you would watch remaining reels hoping. Just like it should be.
But way this is designed as soon as 3 scatters drop no chance of bonus. Exactly the opposite of how you should feel. No excitement ever if anything it totally ruins it and would put people off playing it.

And this is just constructive criticism. As the slot is actually quite good and well designed apart from the tease. The wild respins are good and idea of choosing what bonus to try for is good as well.

But having such a badly designed tease just ruins things a bit. Why you couldn't have just had a tease where scatters just land and even if it is 3 you still had a chance to bonus I do not know.

Should be that if 3 scatters land you feel excited and hoping for more not going what a waste of time watching the next 4 reals spin slow watching scatters pass by that have no chance of landing. Or even worse watching it and seeing no scatters land knowing and waiting to see the 3 land on last reel.

 

[dunover]

See it gets curremons seal of approval lol.

I dunno what he's moaning about, he got 2x stake on one of them.

 

[4ThePlayer]

But way this is designed as soon as 3 scatters drop no chance of bonus. Exactly the opposite of how you should feel. No excitement ever if anything it totally ruins it

Thanks for the explanation and feedback we honestly do appreciate it and take all constructive criticism on board. For example, we are tweaking the fire animation based on feedback. We also spend a lot of time here and on other forums and social media talking to you all.

However, we do understand this point, if you get 3 Scatters you can get more, you just might be unlucky and not - it's all part of the game.

 

[paul7388]

Thanks for the explanation and feedback we honestly do appreciate it and take all constructive criticism on board. For example, we are tweaking the fire animation based on feedback. We also spend a lot of time here and on other forums and social media talking to you all.

However, we do understand this point, if you get 3 Scatters you can get more, you just might be unlucky and not - it's all part of the game.

Maybe you can get more if you are playing for the higher bonuses.

But even the 8 scatter trigger if 3 land on a reel before a single or double you will not get more than 3.

Maybe I am unlucky but I am talking about hundreds at the very least of teases. Also the fact everyone else commenting and other people I know have stated the same. So from the thousands plus teases it has not happened yet. So if indeed it is possible it seems most will never see it. So still makes the tease ruin the game.

But indeed if you are listening to feedback and tweaking it then that's great. Not like I am saying it is a bad slot as I have played it loads now and will continue to play it. Just so much better if when you got a tease you actually hoped to hit bonus on remaining reels not knowing that no chance after first reel has dropped.

 

[4ThePlayer]

But indeed if you are listening to feedback and tweaking it then that's great.

A new tweaked version was just released ? We are listening and appreciate you all engaging with us and for playing our games.

 

[BrianGhattas]

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