Betat/Slotty Vegas ownership questions

[bigbear]

Does anyone have any new information as to the ownership status of Betat and Slotty Vegas? Just received my first deposit bonus offer for quite some time for both casinos but I am aware they have been moved into the Grey Zone due to questions over who now owns them.I have played at both casinos in the past and never had any issues but I am somewhat reluctant to risk any new money in case they have now gone 'rogue'.Thanks everyone.

 

[Tirilej]

They are now owned by really bad people so please don't play there. I can't tell much more but they are not good!!

 

[dunover]

Well, aside from messing their affiliates about for months before eventually paying some of them, to be fair I haven't heard anything negative about the day to day operations of the casinos. AFAIK players are still paid quickly, but do a bit more homework, wait for more replies here to get a better picture.

P.S. lol … like the reply you just got above here from Tirilej...

 

[dionysus]

I wouldnt touch them with a barge pole and frankly, youre old hat enough to know to veer away from non-accredited casinos, whether good or not and to steer other players/members away as well. Just the way it was handled with Bryan should count for some solidarity

 

[bigbear]

I wouldnt touch them with a barge pole and frankly, youre old hat enough to know to veer away from non-accredited casinos, whether good or not and to steer other players/members away as well. Just the way it was handled with Bryan should count for some solidarity

Wow i was only asking! I don't think anythimg in my original post was encouraging other CM members to sign up to non-accredited casinos it was merely to establish whether anyone in the last few months had any experiences good or bad but if it came across that i was not supporting Bryan in his decision to move them then that was certainly not my intention.

 

[dionysus]

Wow i was only asking! I don't think anythimg in my original post was encouraging other CM members to sign up to non-accredited casinos it was merely to establish whether anyone in the last few months had any experiences good or bad but if it came across that i was not supporting Bryan in his decision to move them then that was certainly not my intention.

Not at all. I'm just saying, I wouldnt even contemplate the deppo considering what went down.
If they step forwad, make a CM presence, reach out to Bryan, and go though the process, THEN I'd be asking those Qs

 

[Tirilej]

Wow i was only asking! I don't think anythimg in my original post was encouraging other CM members to sign up to non-accredited casinos it was merely to establish whether anyone in the last few months had any experiences good or bad but if it came across that i was not supporting Bryan in his decision to move them then that was certainly not my intention.

It was actually good that you asked. If you got the offer then others did too. I hope this thread even if it doesn't say that much will make a few people stay away.

 

[pinnit2014]

Yeah, I’d a message from their VIP team asking why had my deposits stopped etc. Apparently they were/are migrating to a new system. Whatever that may mean.

 

[ed skull murphy]

I've played there once since the new ownership, I was asked for photos of my new bank card, which were accepted within the hour, and my withdrawal hit my bank within 36 hours, for what it's worth.

No complaints here.

 

[dionysus]

They may well be legit and solid and pay their players - for my money, I prefer knowing there's a good and built vetting and relationship with CM
If theyre worth their salt, we should expect the rep to chime in

 

[Harry_BKK]

All emails from Betat/SV go straight to the Trash Box.

'nough said

EDIT: They were among my top favorites at some point.

 

[mac72]

I had the same email yesterday and a request from them to give me a call which I accepted. Had a long conversation with Sam from Vip and explained my concerns and to be fair he was quite forthcoming and for me personally (not in any way advocating what others should do) I finished the call and decided to give them another chance (had also stopped depositing lately). I haven’t seen any issues reported of non payment to any players and if I ever have any problems getting paid I’d be the first to say but I always had a lot of time for the staff at betat (know absolutely nothing about the “new owners”) and on that basis I think I will give them a chance. They have one of the best vip cashback offers in the industry and were always one of my top 5 favourite sites so I personally will proceed on that basis

 

[BETAT]

They are now owned by really bad people so please don't play there. I can't tell much more but they are not good!!

They may well be legit and solid and pay their players - for my money, I prefer knowing there's a good and built vetting and relationship with CM
If theyre worth their salt, we should expect the rep to chime in

Hi guys,

dionysus - I already mentioned to Bryan that unfortunately I will not be answering posts that only have as main intent of destroying something we worked so hard to build over 7 years. Having said that, I would like to mention that we are still working with CM answering any messages/queries/complaints/etc that players may have and we will keep doing it because we truly respect CM community.

I will however not waste any time engaging in any posts such as the one by Tirilej, which are completely unfounded and only intend to damage the reputation we built. I hope you can understand why..

All emails from Betat/SV go straight to the Trash Box.

'nough said

EDIT: They were among my top favorites at some point.

Harry_BKK, that is indeed a shame - after all, the people you would be communicating with are exactly the same as you always have for the past many years. Ill go ahead and remove your mail from the mailing list to ensure that our emails do not fill your trash box

If anyone needs anything please feel free to get in touch.

Kind Regards,
Jorge

 

[ed skull murphy]

Let me just add that I would play more often if Betat expanded it's offering of Evolution live roulette, because I'm kinda wary of Netent right now.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Hi guys,

dionysus - I already mentioned to Bryan that unfortunately I will not be answering posts that only have as main intent of destroying something we worked so hard to build over 7 years. Having said that, I would like to mention that we are still working with CM answering any messages/queries/complaints/etc that players may have and we will keep doing it because we truly respect CM community.

I will however not waste any time engaging in any posts such as the one by Tirilej, which are completely unfounded and only intend to damage the reputation we built. I hope you can understand why..



Harry_BKK, that is indeed a shame - after all, the people you would be communicating with are exactly the same as you always have for the past many years. Ill go ahead and remove your mail from the mailing list to ensure that our emails do not fill your trash box

If anyone needs anything please feel free to get in touch.

Kind Regards,
Jorge

Thanks for your public reply Jorge, I really appreciate that.

And I agree with you, it is a shame. I loved playing at Betat/SV, you guys treated me superbly well at all times, your VIP program was/is the best I have seen in my entire gaming career. Plus you have now more game providers, something we asked and your team made the effort to add more.

However, if the new ownership structure is even just slightly associated with the names our investigations have revealed, then I have to stand by my decision. There is no other choice, for me at least.

 

[BETAT]

Let me just add that I would play more often if Betat expanded it's offering of Evolution live roulette, because I'm kinda wary of Netent right now.

Hi ed skull murphy,

We do have Evolution live games but we are going under a small maintenance with some of our providers to improve your game experience. This should be solved over the next hours.

Please let me know if you need something.

Regards,
Jorge

 

[pinnit2014]

Let me just add that I would play more often if Betat expanded it's offering of Evolution live roulette, because I'm kinda wary of Netent right now.

Are you planning a Kelpa-esque thread on Netent?

 

[ed skull murphy]

Are you planning a Kelpa-esque thread on Netent?

No, of course not, that's not my style, I'd rather just vote with my feet.

 

[BETAT]

Thanks for your public reply Jorge, I really appreciate that.

And I agree with you, it is a shame. I loved playing at Betat/SV, you guys treated me superbly well at all times, your VIP program was/is the best I have seen in my entire gaming career. Plus you have now more game providers, something we asked and your team made the effort to add more.

However, if the new ownership structure is even just slightly associated with the names our investigations have revealed, then I have to stand by my decision. There is no other choice, for me at least.

Hi Harry,

That's fair enough. Your investigations are yours to stand by, however what I can say for certain(rather than speculations that I mentioned I would rather not go into) is that we are the same team you refer to, who as you mentioned always treated players fairly and will continue to do so going forward. As far as we are concerned, nothing has changed or will change.

Thanks,
Jorge

 

[colinsunderland]

Hi Harry,

That's fair enough. Your investigations are yours to stand by, however what I can say for certain(rather than speculations that I mentioned I would rather not go into) is that we are the same team you refer to, who as you mentioned always treated players fairly and will continue to do so going forward. As far as we are concerned, nothing has changed or will change.

Thanks,
Jorge

So if everything's above board, presumably you will let Bryan know who the owners are, even if it's only for him and not for public?
If not then you clearly have something to hide.

 

[thebigs]

I still play at Slotty now and then and a few weeks back my withdrawal was in my account very quick so i have no complaints on that point.
Sadly deposited today to play Bonanza and as Jorge said earlier some providers were down and BGT is one of them.Lost the deposit on other slots but i really have no hassles depositing and playing with the casino as i did have great times at the casino and i still trust them wholeheartedly.

 

[BETAT]

I still play at Slotty now and then and a few weeks back my withdrawal was in my account very quick so i have no complaints on that point.
Sadly deposited today to play Bonanza and as Jorge said earlier some providers were down and BGT is one of them.Lost the deposit on other slots but i really have no hassles depositing and playing with the casino as i did have great times at the casino and i still trust them wholeheartedly.

Hi thebigs,

I truly regret to hear that you had a bad experience.

I will ensure you that you will have a compensation bonus in your account to play Bonanza as soon as it is back. Please PM your registration email.

Regards,
Jorge

 

[thebigs]

Hi thebigs,

I truly regret to hear that you had a bad experience.

I will ensure you that you will have a compensation bonus in your account to play Bonanza as soon as it is back. Please PM your registration email.

Regards,
Jorge

Hi Jorge,

Many thanks for the gesture and it is much appreciated.
I hope to see more positive than negative posts in here very soon.
Remember guys there really are a lot of shocking bad casino's out there and as far as i'm concerned they are still part of the good guys even though they are not part of the good guys here at Casinomeister due to T AND C'S from the big boss which is fair enough.

 

[Borgie]

Hi Jorge,

Many thanks for the gesture and it is much appreciated.
I hope to see more positive than negative posts in here very soon.
Remember guys there really are a lot of shocking bad casino's out there and as far as i'm concerned they are still part of the good guys even though they are not part of the good guys here at Casinomeister due to T AND C'S from the big boss which is fair enough.

I will await input from Bryan. Not every casino that gives you a sweetner freebie is fabulous. I need to be convinced. The negativity in the thread has been made for a reason by senior experienced members.

 

[thebigs]

I will await input from Bryan. Not every casino that gives you a sweetner freebie is fabulous. I need to be convinced. The negativity in the thread has been made for a reason by senior experienced members.

My point regarding me trying to be positive about them is the fact that i have not seen any negative posts regarding non or slow payments or anything else that bugs us as players.Regarding your comment on a sweetner freebie i think your barking up the wrong tree.
I came on here to give my point that i have only generally had good experiences with the casino and my negative point was i could not play the slot i wanted at the time.
The naming of the ownership is obviously an issue with Bryan and that's fair enough.If i have missed any threads regarding slow/non payments then im sorry.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Hi Jorge,

Many thanks for the gesture and it is much appreciated.
I hope to see more positive than negative posts in here very soon.
Remember guys there really are a lot of shocking bad casino's out there and as far as i'm concerned they are still part of the good guys even though they are not part of the good guys here at Casinomeister due to T AND C'S from the big boss which is fair enough.

I have no doubts about or ever doubted the front team at Betat/SV. Karl, Sam, Jorge, Michael, Dan, Selma and a few more - outstanding work they were / are doing. For me they were on par with the service I got from 32RED, very professional and a pleasure to talk/chat with. My abstinence from the two casinos is in no way related to the team, player experience or payments.

However, as I said, it is the ownership structure to which I do not want to give my business to if it is indeed associated with the names that have come up. Since nobody confirmed or denied the findings, I have to assume that they are at least somewhat correct.

I would have no hesitation whatsoever to go back if that issue gets cleared up.

 

[CM_BETAT]

Sam, Jorge, Michael, Dan, Selma and a few more - outstanding work they were / are doing.

Wow, what's a brother got to do to get a shout!?

Karl

 

[Harry_BKK]

Wow, what's a brother got to do to get a shout!?

Karl

Sorry mate, I must have misunderstood the info I got which made me think that you left.

Post edited.

Good to see you posting!

 

[BETAT]

I still play at Slotty now and then and a few weeks back my withdrawal was in my account very quick so i have no complaints on that point.
Sadly deposited today to play Bonanza and as Jorge said earlier some providers were down and BGT is one of them.Lost the deposit on other slots but i really have no hassles depositing and playing with the casino as i did have great times at the casino and i still trust them wholeheartedly.

Please be informed that BTG, Evolution, etc games, are now working again.

 

[CM_BETAT]

Sorry mate, I must have misunderstood the info I got which made me think that you left.

Post edited.

Good to see you posting!

Just kidding, Karls gone, I'm Krste from Moscow - nice to meet you!

 

[BETAT]

Just kidding, Karls gone, I'm Krste from Moscow - nice to meet you!

 

[dionysus]

Hi guys,

dionysus - I already mentioned to Bryan that unfortunately I will not be answering posts that only have as main intent of destroying something we worked so hard to build over 7 years. Having said that, I would like to mention that we are still working with CM answering any messages/queries/complaints/etc that players may have and we will keep doing it because we truly respect CM community.

I will however not waste any time engaging in any posts such as the one by Tirilej, which are completely unfounded and only intend to damage the reputation we built. I hope you can understand why..
Kind Regards,
Jorge

Well, seeing as you directed this toward me...
Agreed, the casino did indeed build a stellar repuation - however, Bryan DID place the casino in the grey zone as well, so members are entitled (and frankly, expected to) question and understand why.
And to be fair, I'm also going by your own post:
re:
Regarding ownership, I informed Bryan about my position and I, as all of you, expect to have this question solved soon.

Regards
Jorge

This was back in April (3 months ago).So it's fine and fair for members to wonder, did you resolve this with Bryan?
Does BETAT have any intent on making good on Bryan's request and in turn, becoming accredited again?
Frankly, I don't understand the reluctance as this is something you need only share with Bryan, not the entire community.
We, as members, trust him, and as such, in return, trust the casino(s).
You may be a great casino, with fantastic staff, and quite diligent.
However, a CM stamp of approval (accreditation) is worth pots of gold vs all that.

We as responsible members have a duty in fact, to lead members away from questionable casinos and toward those vetted and CM approved.
It all seems rather silly and easily resolvable. If you TRULY respect the CM community, it starts at the top

 

[colinsunderland]

So I'll presume, as you haven't responded to my question, you do have something to hide. Providing details of ownership to someone who has been in the business for a very long time, and has an excellent reputation, should not be a problem to any casino. It isn't a case of trying to destroy your business or reputation, it is the opposite, supply ownership information and restore people's faith in you.

 

[nutnut]

I still use them and have no issues ever, infact didn't even know about any grey zone.......

If this is to do with more affiliate BS then it's shame a good casino can have it's name dragged through the mud because a few well known posters have a bee in their bonnet. People should be postng about how as a PLAYER the casino treats you and if withdrawals are quick and good. Which they're, the rest is nothing to do with the casino IMO.

 

[interlog]

I still use them and have no issues ever, infact didn't even know about any grey zone.......

If this is to do with more affiliate BS then it's shame a good casino can have it's name dragged through the mud because a few well known posters have a bee in their bonnet. People should be postng about how as a PLAYER the casino treats you and if withdrawals are quick and good. Which they're, the rest is nothing to do with the casino IMO.

It is about the ethics of the Company, and that is the whole of the Company including the affiliate side of it. They are not mutually exclusive.

 

[colinsunderland]

I still use them and have no issues ever, infact didn't even know about any grey zone.......

If this is to do with more affiliate BS then it's shame a good casino can have it's name dragged through the mud because a few well known posters have a bee in their bonnet. People should be postng about how as a PLAYER the casino treats you and if withdrawals are quick and good. Which they're, the rest is nothing to do with the casino IMO.

Maybe you should read the reasons why before you rant about affiliates. If you think Bryan @Casinomeister is dragging a good casinos name through the mud, then send him a PM and tell him how he was wrong to do what he did. Clearly you are happy to line the pockets of the people who allegedly run it now, thats all great, but when you get ripped off maybe you will wish you had listened to the warnings. Also, if affiliates are being ripped off, then theres a good chance players won't be far behind, considering a large chunk of new customers are referred by affiliates.

 

[nutnut]

Maybe you should read the reasons why before you rant about affiliates. If you think Bryan @Casinomeister is dragging a good casinos name through the mud, then send him a PM and tell him how he was wrong to do what he did. Clearly you are happy to line the pockets of the people who allegedly run it now, thats all great, but when you get ripped off maybe you will wish you had listened to the warnings. Also, if affiliates are being ripped off, then theres a good chance players won't be far behind, considering a large chunk of new customers are referred by affiliates.

NO ONE has EVER been ripped off by BETAT. That is the point, you have a casino who didn't pay a player cause it was a business account that is a scummy casino. Until PLAYERS post about issues with this casino they will not be classed as same as other casinos in the rogue pit. Show me proof this casino rips players off?

 

[colinsunderland]

NO ONE has EVER been ripped off by BETAT. That is the point, you have a casino who didn't pay a player cause it was a business account that is a scummy casino. Until PLAYERS post about issues with this casino they will not be classed as same as other casinos in the rogue pit. Show me proof this casino rips players off?

What are you talking about? Who said they have ripped anyone off?
As I said, you have issues with a decision Bryan made, why not PM him with your shouty rant and tell him how this casino are being unfairly treated?

 

[nutnut]

What are you talking about? Who said they have ripped anyone off?
As I said, you have issues with a decision Bryan made, why not PM him with your shouty rant and tell him how this casino are being unfairly treated?

Why do you keep mentioning Bryan ? Are you hoping he pops in to shut me up. I have no issue with them being in the grey zone, I have a issue with you stating "but when you get ripped off maybe you will wish you had listened to the warnings" so YES you did suggest they WOULD rip me off at some point. WHEN and IF are different words, WHEN suggests it's a matter of time, so yes I have a issue with you stating a casino would be rogue when nothing has been proved yet.

 

[goatwack]

I think it's only fair at this point to let Kelapa know that Betat now offer Evolution Roulette

Popcorn- esque ball- hopping fun for all the family!

 

[BETAT]

goatwack...

 

[ed skull murphy]

I think it's only fair at this point to let Kelapa know that Betat now offer Evolution Roulette

Popcorn- esque ball- hopping fun for all the family!

The thing is, he would probably do OK on Betat, I usually do.

 

[colinsunderland]

Why do you keep mentioning Bryan ? Are you hoping he pops in to shut me up. I have no issue with them being in the grey zone, I have a issue with you stating "but when you get ripped off maybe you will wish you had listened to the warnings" so YES you did suggest they WOULD rip me off at some point. WHEN and IF are different words, WHEN suggests it's a matter of time, so yes I have a issue with you stating a casino would be rogue when nothing has been proved yet.

So when you said this

If this is to do with more affiliate BS then it's shame a good casino can have it's name dragged through the mud because a few well known posters have a bee in their bonnet.

who exactly were you meaning was dragging their 'good' name through the mud?

Tell you what, do some research on who actually owns them, and then come back and tell us all how trustworthy they are. Why not ask them directly, see what answer you get.

 

[BETAT]

do some research on who actually ons them.

I have promised to myself to not answer this kind of posts anymore , and I know that I shouldn't, but I would love to hear about your research. I am actually quite curious about it to be honest, because maybe you will show me the light.

 

[Matti]

Why do you keep mentioning Bryan ? Are you hoping he pops in to shut me up. I have no issue with them being in the grey zone, I have a issue with you stating "but when you get ripped off maybe you will wish you had listened to the warnings" so YES you did suggest they WOULD rip me off at some point. WHEN and IF are different words, WHEN suggests it's a matter of time, so yes I have a issue with you stating a casino would be rogue when nothing has been proved yet.

The simple fact is that they refuse telling CM who owns BETAT after Igor sold the company. This doesn't mean they are a bad casino but the chance that you will get cheated is so much higher. Ask yourself why they don't want to inform CM!? If you have been around this business for a while I can tell you that the reason is to 99% that they have something to hide. The thing they are trying to hide isn't always something with objective to cheat players but with 3500 casinos out there why even bother.

 

[colinsunderland]

I have promised to myself to not answer this kind of posts anymore , and I know that I shouldn't, but I would love to hear about your research. I am actually quite curious about it to be honest, because maybe you will show me the light.

You don't know who you work for?
How about you just tell everyone who it is, as I say, if they aren't who people think there won't be any bad posts about you and you will likely get accredited again. Don't see any downside tbh, unless of course you have something to hide? Even if you don't say who it is, just say why you won't say who it is?

 

[nutnut]

I'd rather not know BETAT. So don't tell me please!

 

[dunover]

I think it's only fair at this point to let Kelapa know that Betat now offer Evolution Roulette

Popcorn- esque ball- hopping fun for all the family!

And it's a special Bet-at reduced RTP version with an anti-gravity device in the ball.

 

[refre]

I noticed you got Skrill back
Also, theres now a My Net Deposit figure in the accounts section. In my case it's way off
I like the idea though!

 

[Tirilej]

I will however not waste any time engaging in any posts such as the one by Tirilej, which are completely unfounded and only intend to damage the reputation we built. I hope you can understand why..

Of course you wouldn't, but you're wrong about one thing though. I don't care at all about your reputation, and if you feel that the new owners are honorable and great people then ok...
My intention was only to warn the members here so that's what i did when someone asked. It's sad that Bryan is away, but I guess he will speak when he's back.

It almost felt a bit special to be accused of trying to damage a casinos reputation since I almost always are accused of defending them