Question Burgers and Donuts

[M!ke]

Does anyone actually play these games?

I think they're the worst games BTG has made. Their artwork is solid, but the math model makes the games extremely boring.

If they would've structured the game to have a suitable max win for a 4 by 4 reel slot (maybe 15000x), it could've been decent. Could've had cascades.

All the ridiculous multipliers do is try to compress a megaways format into a fixed 4x4 reel slot. Terrible.

Edit: I just noticed that Donuts only has a 20000x max win? Hm.. it's still like watchin grass grow.

 

[2Slots]

I tried donuts after seeing it in the 10p thread. First couple tries I hit a big win line and had a few bonuses but I agree that it's a pretty boring base game and I gave it up after a few more tries.

The bonus round is pretty cool with the hold and spin multiplier pre-bonus and retrigger possibility during the bonus. I think the bonus might do an odd thing where the reels slow down after the first one lands if you have a win making it predictable.

The megaways slots seem to have a few with interesting bonus round mechanics so I've started playing the other ones you've mentioned here.

Edit: The base game does play really well. I did have a lot of game time from it for not much loss.

 

[thediro]

Gonna be honest, ive been on a BTG binge in general, played through quite a few of there titles from

Monop Deluxe (Isnt bad if you get on a good roll)

Warlocks (Absolute horrific)

Star clusters 2 (Pretty to look at, boring to watch)

Pirate Pays (This was horrendous)

GOLD Megaways (This was actually really good, ended up with a £80 bonus on 0.40p)

Donuts (This is good to farm on 10p stakes)

Dragon Born (Yawn fest, again just generically bad game play wise)

Extra Chilli (Fantastic game! Very bonanza feel and the HOT seems easier to hit)

Wild Flower (Again, mostly common with low stakes as good and easy to bonus)

Crystal Tower (Felt like i took shrooms with an acid watching this game, trying to work it out was even worse...)

Vegas Megaways (Again generically same as there others with a pretty crap base churn)

Lastest one was DANGER high Voltage - Which ive seen POP off for people, personally i didnt get shit...

Honestly though as a whole, BTG kinda fall short and are in line with the typical "Hacksaw" vibe in terms that they just kinda reskin there same games with no proper innovated design thinking, just rinse and repeats at best.

I suppose in a sense Elk Studios regardless of there HORRIBLE rtp and just pure blatant robbery get my respect in the sense they have made so many games that actually can bring some "entertainment" value.

Bonanza still #1 for BTG though.

 

[Reelsoffun]

I think your wrong on this one. @M!ke

I play them quite a lot, they are solid games that can and have delivered. More than bonanza if im honest.

Donuts is all about a high 50+ multi in the bonus OR in the base the 4+ boxes win that opens purples.

Burgers, i think is more in the feature and you ideally need a retrigger but when the ice cubes get to 10X + they can start generating big wins.

Dont have bigger ones on this PC but somewhere i have 4000x wins at least on donuts....

 

[dunover]

Donuts is a super game.

 

[M!ke]

I think your wrong on this one.

I play them quite a lot, they are solid games that can and have delivered. More than bonanza if im honest.

Donuts is all about a high 50+ multi in the bonus OR in the base the 4+ boxes win that opens purples.

Burgers, i think is more in the feature and you ideally need a retrigger but when the ice cubes get to 10X + they can start generating big wins.

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Dont have bigger ones on this PC but somewhere i have 4000x wins at least on donuts....

Well damn.. those are great wins. I'm keepin an open mind on Donuts.

I think I have a better chance of enjoying Donuts than Burgers. I've played both. It also seems I have a better chance of actually becoming a hamburger than triggerin a bonus in Burgers.

 

[M!ke]

Donuts is a super game.

But you like Bonanza more LOL

 

[Reelsoffun]

Well damn.. those are great wins. I'm keepin an open mind on Donuts.

I think I have a better chance of enjoying Donuts than Burgers. I've played both. It also seems I have a better chance of actually becoming a hamburger than triggerin a bonus in Burgers.

Dont get me wrong like all slots it can also Tilt / Troll you look at this....

As boxes always open same colour...

A Box on reel one with the 4 purple in would have been (3840x)

 

[M!ke]

It's possible that I just prefer games with more straightforward math. I just said this in another thread, but base games with multiplied wilds, cumulative wilds (Spicy Meatballs, Wild Portals) and modifiers seem much more.. dead.

 

[M!ke]

Dont get me wrong like all slots it can also Tilt / Troll you look at this....

As boxes always open same colour...

A Box on reel one with the 4 purple in would have been (3840x)

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That's a heartbreaker. Wow.. that hit would blow my mind.

I think Donuts plays more fairly overall than Burgers, and it's probably cause of their big difference in max win. Burgers has no business havin a max win over 100000x.

 

[Reelsoffun]

Well i didnt design them but i would just say the volatility on burgers is way higher, and with all HV slots the base and ave feature will suffer.

 

[TheAddict]

What pinches my tits is the slow tease during the base always throwing 1 line of single purple donuts. It's like someone giving you a slow motion kick in the balls over, and over.

 

[Reelsoffun]

It's possible that I just prefer games with more straightforward math. I just said this in another thread, but base games with multiplied wilds, cumulative wilds (Spicy Meatballs, Wild Portals) and modifiers seem much more.. dead.

Bif of a weird comment as you love more turkey and the math on that is way more complex than donuts lol

But i get ya

 

[Reelsoffun]

What pinches my tits is the slow tease during the base always throwing 1 line of single purple donuts. It's like someone giving you a slow motion kick in the balls over, and over.

Yeah never understood that myself either as its always just a 1 or 2 way purple win, they would have been far better removing that and used the slow spin for when you have boxes on the first 3 reels as thats where some real wins are when you have at least one box per reel.... i think the max is 7 boxes but only ever had 5 which was one of my 3500x+ wins

 

[M!ke]

Bif of a weird comment as you love more turkey and the math on that is way more complex than donuts lol

But i get ya

Turkey has cascading Megaway reels with a max win around 25000x and there's only 1x wilds on the extra reel. Changes how the game regularly pays out. Doesn't rely on gimmicks.

 

[Reelsoffun]

No but it has a global multi in the feature, so its more complex under the hood, with what i strongly suspect is reel strip changes dependant on current multi

 

[M!ke]

No but it has a global multi in the feature, so its more complex under the hood, with what i strongly suspect is reel strip changes dependant on current multi

No doubt, the feature is a completely different animal (whatta pun ), but the base game is where we spend most of our time playin.

I have no proof other than common sense, but the reels are definitely different in the bonus round based on the multiplier, LOL.

 

[Reelsoffun]

Dug out another couple of hits, have loads more just cant find em but there nearly a 5000x one here

And another similar game thats hard to bonus buts has sticky boxes in the bonus is chocolates

 

[Sonict]

To be fair to Dragon Born... It was the very first BTG slot with the "Megaways" feature so it doesn't hold up as well as the other slots.

I have not played Burgers, but I have played lots of Bonanza, Extra Chilli, Donuts, and a few others and I like them for what they are.

 

[M!ke]

Dug out another couple of hits, have loads more just cant find em but there nearly a 5000x one here

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And another similar game thats hard to bonus buts has sticky boxes in the bonus is chocolates

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I wanted to try Chocolates, but the casino I play at doesn't have it.

You won $730 on 0.15.. well.. that's interesting, LOL. How surprised were you when it happened? I assume you remember that one.

 

[Reelsoffun]

TBH i have loads of those sort of hits 1500 - 5000x on donuts so not overly memerable compare that to 0 on bonanza......

Not so much these days but it can pay on high stakes too although this was unlucky that there was no box on reel 2 and the fact they all only had 2 in them or it would have escalated quickly lol

 

[M!ke]

TBH i have loads of those sort of hits 1500 - 5000x on donuts so not overly memerable compare that to 0 on bonanza......

Not so much these days but it can pay on high stakes too although this was unlucky that there was no box on reel 2 and the fact they all only had 2 in them or it would have escalated quickly lol

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I gotta say, you're sellin me on givin Donuts a couple more tries. Biggest hit I've seen so far was 45x.

 

[Reelsoffun]

Hey, don’t let me swing you, i don’t want to be the cause of you possibly losing lol as it can certainly be just as bad as other games at times, maybe stick to low stakes at least till you get a feel for how it’s playing.

Also remember it’s higher volatility than the likes of bonanza, turkey etc

I’m just being honest that it has dished out far more bigger wins for me than all bonanza, extra chilli, more turkey and WWTBAM combined and that’s saying something as I have done 1mill spins + on bonanza alone, and I actually play chill and WWTBAM more on average!

 

[M!ke]

Hey, don’t let me swing you, i don’t want to be the cause of you possibly losing lol as it can certainly be just as bad as other games at times, maybe stick to low stakes at least till you get a feel for how it’s playing.

Also remember it’s higher volatility than the likes of bonanza, turkey etc

I’m just being honest that it has dished out far more bigger wins for me than all bonanza, extra chilli, more turkey and WWTBAM combined and that’s saying something as I have done 1mill spins + on bonanza alone, and I actually play chill and WWTBAM more on average!

I would never blame anyone but myself for losin. I would go in low. Nickle and dime it to feel it out.

Oh, I know it's more volatile than those megaways BTG slots. It has long dry stretches, but I guess that's to pay for those bigger wins.

Hell, the biggest base game return I've had on Turkey was 1200x. Bonanza was 500x in a bonus game.

Those wins you had on Donuts are even more impressive when you consider the max win is 20000x, which is lower than Bonanza.

 

[Reelsoffun]

Not sure where you got the 20,000x max win from but my mate had over 22,000x on it about 18 months ago?

 

[M!ke]

Not sure where you got the 20,000x max win from but my mate had over 22,000x on it about 18 months ago?

Big Win Board says 20000, but another place says around 30000. Either way, your friend definitely hit the upper bounds of what it can offer.

 

[Reelsoffun]

Yeah the BTG ones tend to be a guide max as a few have hit higher since esp the Lil devil one that hit over 100,000x i think after it was declared at like 50,000x max win etc cant remember the exact figures but a few have exceeded original max wins displayed.