Depositing at Videoslots again, because at least it works

[ChopleyIOM]

Crikey it's hard work spending a bit of your money online to have a modest gamble these days isn't it?

I haven't deposited at VS for years, because I objected to their nerfing of RTPs and rewards, and the slightly underhand ways in which they went about it (this was well documented on my previous YT channel).

I do nearly all my play at 3Dice these days, and have done for quite some time, but since Dice Fusion delivered a kick in the bollocks to me so large it can be seen from space with the naked eye (documented here - New 3Dice slot - 'DICE FUSION', 3Dice does Reactoonz - Casinomeister Forum ) I've been looking around a little bit at other options.

Unibet has stopped accepting my debit card for no apparent reason whatsoever, it craps out, says it's going to do extended verification (which I'm used to doing online for any purchases, using the banking app for MFA which I'm totally in agreement with), and then fails to do so. I have learned the hard way not to get even remotely involved with CS at 99% of casinos (3Dice are actually one of the exceptions here as they have 24/7 actual real person CS), so I couldn't be arsed pursuing it.

Therefore taking a look around, I always start with CM accredited casinos, but the hole I keep falling into is them not recognising that the IOM exists, so I'm basically forced to choose UNITED KINGDOM as my country when that's a false statement, the IOM is not part of the UK.

The other problem with this is, if I see registration out to completion, I get 'homed' to the UK so I get the non-autoplay version of games. I went through the whole signup process at Bet365 a couple of nights ago, sent my docs to them to get my account fully verified, fired up a slot and yeah, no autoplay. There is no world where I'm playing an online slot without an autoplay.

I've also noticed that Paypal seems to have disappeared as a deposit option from the few other casinos I still have active accounts at, so thanks for that too.

In the end I was just like, 'Hang on, I still have an active account at VS, and I'm in the mood to have a crack at BTG's Lucky Streak Mark2, and BTG only run their games with one maths model, let's see if I can deposit there'. So yeah, the exact same card that's stopped working at Unibet worked fine at VS, deposited £100 no problem and I am (obviously...... ) losing on Lucky Streak Mark2.

So yes, that's two rules broken, never play at VS again and never play Lucky Streak Mark2 again, but that's the point here, when it gets this hard to just have a little bit of a punt with your own cash, I reserve the right to ultimately seek the path of least resistance. And at least if I win, (yeah I know, finishing up a winner on Lucky Streak Mark2, LOL), VS will pay me.

Lucky Streak Mark2 is such a great game though, I just wish there was a less volatile version of it to play.

And as you can see here, at least VS knows the IOM is a thing so I get slots with an autoplay feature.

Of course I checked the help file, the game is running at 96.32% RTP, you can say what you want about BTG, they're keeping their RTPs solid.

More on Videoslots here - Check it out!

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

365??????

 

[ChopleyIOM]

365??????

They're accredited here at CM which is generally my starting position when it comes to considering playing at a casino.

What's the problem with Bet365?

 

[Jono777]

Despite VS's reported faults and downfalls, at least there are plenty of positives to help

* Good support here, including regular input from one of their 'managers'
* You win, you'll get your money and quick
* Massive game selection
* Promos despite dwindling are all wager free and better than most places (excl wagering based stuff)

Its the only place I use and has been that way for years.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

There's the one we're after, an actual line of wilds which is 500x. (The holy grail on this slot is stacked wilds across all the reels in the free spins round, which I believe it can it can do for the top pay of 10,000x stake, citation needed on that.)

Anyway, I'll take this, 620x stake, £52 profit on the session, I'll make a withdrawal and hopefully not get hit with a SOW for my massive gambling profits

 

[Mark_Lottomart]

Choppers.. I think you’ve knocked the nail on the head with IOM not being recognised. I’d like to think (hope) our tech team have that covered, although I wouldn’t be surprised if not (no offence techies if you see this). If you fancy giving it a try I’ll refund a deposit of your choice up to £50 (if you can actually deposit!) regardless if you win or lose.

Edit: You can tell my marketing skills have worn off. I used the “L” word! Please read the above as: “regardless if you win or you’re not so lucky!” Thanks ?

 

[paul7388]

Choppers.. I think you’ve knocked the nail on the head with IOM not being recognised. I’d like to think (hope) our tech team have that covered, although I wouldn’t be surprised if not (no offence techies if you see this). If you fancy giving it a try I’ll refund a deposit of your choice up to £50 (if you can actually deposit!) regardless if you win or lose.

That was a very generous offer Mark. And Chopley never thought i would see the day you went from 3dice to VS again lol. Definitely never saw that one coming, But if you have not tried Lottomart it is a good casino. games run smoothly and withdrawals are normally fast and go straight into bank as soon as processed using Mastercard.

Does your Casino recognise Glasgow as a place Mark as i know some places seem to think Scotland is in England,

 

[aceking123]

Dunno about lottomart being that fast I had to wait over 8 hours back to debit card )

 

[Mark_Lottomart]

Dunno about lottomart being that fast I had to wait over 8 hours back to debit card )

Holy Feck AK! Do you usually get them quicker than that or was this a one-off? It could be that we can’t do fast payments on your card maybe? Will take a look when back in the office but if this was someone snoozing rather than approving and not a tech thing I’ll be kicking butt!

 

[paul7388]

Dunno about lottomart being that fast I had to wait over 8 hours back to debit card )

Well by being fast i meant in a decent time and not having to wait days.

Think i had a withdrawal that took several hours as well. But most were within an hour or 2 and one was within minutes so fast enough for me.

 

[aceking123]

Holy Feck AK! Do you usually get them quicker than that or was this a one-off? It could be that we can’t do fast payments on your card maybe? Will take a look when back in the office but if this was someone snoozing rather than approving and not a tech thing I’ll be kicking butt!

Lol to be fair all my withdrawals have been done in around 2 hours Fridays one didn't go through until 4am on Saturday, I'm sure the staff was having drinkies hence the delay ?

 

[Gavashy]

Crikey it's hard work spending a bit of your money online to have a modest gamble these days isn't it?

I haven't deposited at VS for years, because I objected to their nerfing of RTPs and rewards, and the slightly underhand ways in which they went about it (this was well documented on my previous YT channel).

I do nearly all my play at 3Dice these days, and have done for quite some time, but since Dice Fusion delivered a kick in the bollocks to me so large it can be seen from space with naked eye (documented here - New 3Dice slot - 'DICE FUSION', 3Dice does Reactoonz - Casinomeister Forum ) I've been looking around a little bit at other options.

Unibet has stopped accepting my debit card for no apparent reason whatsoever, it craps out, says it's going to do extended verification (which I'm used to doing online for any purchases, using the banking app for MFA which I'm totally in agreement with), and then fails to do so. I have learned the hard way not to get even remotely involved with CS at 99% of casinos (3Dice are actually one of the exceptions here as they have 24/7 actual real person CS), so I couldn't be arsed pursuing it.

Therefore taking a look around, I always start with CM accredited casinos, but the hole I keep falling into is them not recognising that the IOM exists, so I'm basically forced to choose UNITED KINGDOM as my country when that's a false statement, the IOM is not part of the UK.

The other problem with this is, if I see registration out to completion, is I get 'homed' to the UK so I get the non-autoplay version of games. I went through the whole signup process at Bet365 a couple of nights ago, sent my docs to them to get my account fully verified, fired up a slot and yeah, no autoplay. There is no world where I'm not playing an online slot without an autoplay.

I've also noticed that Paypal seems to have disappeared as a deposit option from the few other casinos I still have active accounts at, so thanks for that too.

In the end I was just like, 'Hang on, I still have an active account at VS, and I'm in the mood to have a crack at BTG's Lucky Streak Mark2, and BTG only run their games with one maths model, let's see if I can deposit there'. So yeah, the exact same card that's stopped working at Unibet worked fine at VS, deposited £100 no problem and I am (obviously...... ) losing on Lucky Streak Mark2.

So yes, that's two rules broken, never play at VS again and never play Lucky Streak Mark2 again, but that's the point here, when it gets this hard to just have a little bit of a punt with your own cash, I reserve the right to ultimately seek the path of least resistance. And at least if I win, (yeah I know, finishing up a winner on Lucky Streak Mark2, LOL), VS will pay me.

Lucky Streak Mark2 is such a great game though, I just wish there was a less volatile version of it to play.

And as you can see here, at least VS knows the IOM is a thing so I get slots with an autoplay feature.

Of course I checked the help file, the game is running at 96.32% RTP, you can say what you want about BTG, they're keeping their RTPs solid.

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Thought it had to be a post by yourself ?little bit of rambling and missing skills shots is all in a days work for a man like yourself??, keep up the great work on YouTube great videos and the street google maps makes it an enjoyable watch, takes me back to the 777heavens and the like of the day, big thumbs up to your content and thank you on that note, have to say tho slot you've uploaded above looks awful?, sure you were playing it at 3 dice wayy back in one of your casino videos, do they have modern slots at 3dice and not just slots that look like 80/90s clubbers?

 

[Mark_Lottomart]

Lol to be fair all my withdrawals have been done in around 2 hours Fridays one didn't go through until 4am on Saturday, I'm sure the staff was having drinkies hence the delay ?

Phew! Will check it out, thanks for the feedback. Friday nights are busier so that could be why. Hopefully not too many people are as observant as you are and the 4am inconvenience just means they’ve got the cash when they wake up.

Anyway sorry for the hijack!

 

[aceking123]

Phew! Will check it out, thanks for the feedback. Friday nights are busier so that could be why. Hopefully not too many people are as observant as you are and the 4am inconvenience just means they’ve got the cash when they wake up.

Anyway sorry for the hijack!

Nope it's all good ?
Only thing I can safely grumble about is I don't get any promos, maybe because I'm ahead & I hit my monthly limit by mid month every month.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Choppers.. I think you’ve knocked the nail on the head with IOM not being recognised. I’d like to think (hope) our tech team have that covered, although I wouldn’t be surprised if not (no offence techies if you see this). If you fancy giving it a try I’ll refund a deposit of your choice up to £50 (if you can actually deposit!) regardless if you win or lose.

Edit: You can tell my marketing skills have worn off. I used the “L” word! Please read the above as: “regardless if you win or you’re not so lucky!” Thanks ?

Thanks Mark that's very generous, I'll give registration and depositing a go and see what happens. If I end up on a slot without an autoplayer though, I'm out of there

Yes I know autoclickers are a thing but no use for me as I use my PC for other things at the same time when slotting, generally speaking playing a videogame or fruit machine emulator, and I also tab around web browsers, WhatsApp etc so my mouse cursor won't actually be anywhere near the window where the online slot is running.

For example last night I was killing the absolute shit out of Nazis in Sniper Elite 5 - (dead Nazis being the best sort of Nazis, of course) - whilst I had Lucky Streak Mark 2 running off to the side, so my mouse is active in the game window, hence not a scenario where an autoclicker would do anything useful.

 

[Mark_Lottomart]

Thanks Mark that's very generous, I'll give registration and depositing a go and see what happens. If I end up on a slot without an autoplayer though, I'm out of there

Yes I know autoclickers are a thing but no use for me as I use my PC for other things at the same time when slotting, generally speaking playing a videogame or fruit machine emulator, and I also tab around web browsers, WhatsApp etc so my mouse cursor won't actually be anywhere near the window where the online slot is running.

For example last night I was killing the absolute shit out of Nazis in Sniper Elite 5 - (dead Nazis being the best sort of Nazis, of course) - whilst I had Lucky Streak Mark 2 running off to the side, so my mouse is active in the game window, hence not a scenario where an autoclicker would do anything useful.

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Let’s see. Autoplay may actually be an issue too if we’re using the UK build slots for IOM. I’m on my way to the office I’ll see if I can check out how it’s all set up.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Let’s see. Autoplay may actually be an issue too if we’re using the UK build slots for IOM. I’m on my way to the office I’ll see if I can check out how it’s all set up.

Cheers Mark that would be useful, no autoplay is an absolute deal-breaker for me. Put it this way, if there was a world where no online slots had an autoplayer, I wouldn't play any online slots.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

They're accredited here at CM which is generally my starting position when it comes to considering playing at a casino.

What's the problem with Bet365?

Nothing at all!! That was my point.

All top RTP and big array of games.

Whilst I appreciate that BTG games are irrelevant when it comes to choosing top RTP, but people playing slots at the likes of videoslots, unibet etc etc when they can play them at 365 on top RTP is to put it mildly baffling.

 

[aceking123]

Nothing at all!! That was my point.

All top RTP and big array of games.

Whilst I appreciate that BTG games are irrelevant when it comes to choosing top RTP, but people playing slots at the likes of videoslots, unibet etc etc when they can play them at 365 on top RTP is to put it mildly baffling.

Really don't see the rtp% any longer havnt done for years, if you going to win your win, 2% on my overall play hasn't really caused any issues in wins, it's still a barren wilderness with online slots, having tried numerous games of both settings.

 

[L&L-Jan]

but the hole I keep falling into is them not recognising that the IOM exists

We don't - we recognize IOM. It is used a lot by players from the UK who are on Gamstop

 

[Lemon]

 

[bamberfishcake]

Oh, how nice it was a couple of years back when you were spoilt for choice.

Says something when you are forced to return to a casino you stopped playing at.

 

[bamberfishcake]

2% on my overall play hasn't really caused any issues in wins

How would you know?

If 2% in RTP doesn't matter, then why are all casinos moving towards lower RTP models?

It matters, and it matters because it costs YOU money

 

[aceking123]

How would you know?

If 2% in RTP doesn't matter, then why are all casinos moving towards lower RTP models?

It matters, and it matters because it costs YOU money

Bamber your never do enough spins in your life time to prove otherwise ..........I'm going from my play to which going via your membership is far longer.

2% on my game isn't showing anything different to when I was playing slots at 96% all the time.
Hence my remark.

 

[Mr Wild]

How would you know?

If 2% in RTP doesn't matter, then why are all casinos moving towards lower RTP models?

It matters, and it matters because it costs YOU money

Well for casinos its 50% more income and for the players is 2% less payout.

So wager €100 on average you win €96 and casino get €4. With 94% you win €94 and casino gets €6.

 

[Mr Wild]

For those who care for RTP. VS BOS buyin-battles is 100%+ RTP atm.
Minimum RTP is 100% and if GTD is not reached it will be over 100%.

 

[bamberfishcake]

I'm going from my play to which going via your membership is far longer.

That clearly trumps this discussion.

I did not realise there was a direct correlation between length of service and knowledge

I apologise for my insolence.

 

[aceking123]

That clearly trumps this discussion.

I did not realise there was a direct correlation between length of service and knowledge

I apologise for my insolence.

Really why are you being like that, clearly I've upset you by stating I have found no difference in my play results play on a slot at 96% & a slot at 94%. I don't grind 20ps all day, I play with mixed stakes & have yet to see any difference in games.

Clearly if that troubles you so much about 2% then you should find another way for your entertainment ?

 

[Mr Wild]

Really why are you being like that, clearly I've upset you by stating I have found no difference in my play results play on a slot at 96% & a slot at 94%. I don't grind 20ps all day, I play with mixed stakes & have yet to see any difference in games.

Clearly if that troubles you so much about 2% then you should find another way for your entertainment ?

Most of game providers only lower the top win, so you wouldnt really notice any difference if you dont hit max win. However, some game providers might do other changes as well.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Really why are you being like that, clearly I've upset you by stating I have found no difference in my play results play on a slot at 96% & a slot at 94%. I don't grind 20ps all day, I play with mixed stakes & have yet to see any difference in games.

Clearly if that troubles you so much about 2% then you should find another way for your entertainment ?

Not upset.

Just highlighting your comment about membership.

I do not concern myself with such trivial disagreements, nor give them much of a passing thought. Hence, why I often shoot from the hip.

Merely pointing out, as you also pointed out - how would you know because you will never do the spins?

And trying to highlight that 2% RTP matters. Let's agree to disagree eh

 

[bamberfishcake]

Most of game providers only lower the top win, so you wouldnt really notice any difference if you dont hit max win. However, some game providers might do other changes as well.

Do you know what game providers do max win only to lower RTP? I would be keen to play those since I have never hit a max win.

 

[aceking123]

Not upset.

Just highlighting your comment about membership.

I do not concern myself with such trivial disagreements, nor give them much of a passing thought. Hence, why I often shoot from the hip.

Merely pointing out, as you also pointed out - how would you know because you will never do the spins?

And trying to highlight that 2% RTP matters. Let's agree to disagree eh

& this is why us older members don't engage like we used too we've been round the block a few times, things are always changing I've been playing online since it was created with the very first couple of online casinos offered.
Age is wisdom along with a lot of online experience with slots.
2% is not going to affect me as a player I play for fun, when this stops being fun I'm off simples.
I doubt any player shall take on any new slots & hit billions of spins to which they have now to find out if the 2% really does make a difference.
It's not like casinos are going to change once its been lowered anyway)
Ps sorry for derail)

 

[Mr Wild]

Pragmatic, Netent, Playngo is some that comes to mind. However I wouldn't know how each game is built, but that is how their top performers are built.

 

[goatwack]

It's obviously a bad thing for players that RTP gets lowered, even more so if most will see that as par for the course.

Few may realize how much their favourite games are shafting them over extended, grindey sessions, given that most of the popular titles are outright intergalactic variance anyway - so if they lose £60 instead of £40 in pursuit of the Hollywood Hit, then so be it.

The days of plodding through low-deposit, let's-turn-£20-into-£100 sessions are all but gone, a relic of a bygone age, like when Macklemore ruled the charts. That's how long we're talking

Fact is, that 2% over duration will not be noticed on a modern slot, it just tends to get lost in the sea of 'fun' as dreams of NLC richdom cloud the players. Yet shear two percent off something like the original Bloodsuckers, and you'd find players not using it for their wagering tasks.

How the wins are distributed is key, and so I think an RTP reduction is almost moot in the high-variance climate we find ourselves in. However, casinos nerfing older titles is definitely not cricket, with them essentially ripping the tried & trusted mechanics out, to the point of not being viable entertainment, and players ditching them by default.

That was mainly in aid of clearing up the Aceking vs Bamber lover's tiff. I'm content knowing I've achieved that.

You've been a wonderful audience, thanks for listening!

 

[TheAddict]

Try BOD on1 line for a few 100k spins at 94%. Then, if you've managed to not kill yourself, try it on 96%

 

[ChopleyIOM]

So I see VS are still ruining bonus rounds with their pointless YOU WON THE USELESS TROPHY THAT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING EXCEPT SPOILING YOUR BONUS ROUND FOR YOU popups.

I have a big soft spot for Blueprint's Worms Reloaded (exactly my sort of low variance, high feature frequency type of game, and the JACKPOT KING element means I can at least dream of winning mega cash on it), and VS appear to be one of the very few casinos that still have it on their books, alas it's not entirely unusual for the bonus round to take longer to play out than VS want to take to pop up their stupid message I have literally zero interest in.

Case in point I just got the jet pack bonus round, made the mistake of replying to a message on WhatsApp before starting to play the bonus, and the popup appeared to tell me I had won the WORMS BIG WIN TROPHY so I knew it was going to be in the 15-20x stake range (30x or better (something like that anyway) is the MEGA WIN TROPHY).

I suppose I should go into my account settings and see if there's a way of turning off this tedious popup spam that I absolutely do not want, and have no interest in, that's intruding upon my slots session.

As you can see here, it basically told me what the bonus round result was going to be, before I'd even started it.

 

[bamberfishcake]

Most of what has been stated in this thread is speculation.

Anybody new to the game will read through this and get the impression that 2% doesn't matter, and it only affects the maximum win, which is wrong from what I have seen on game data sheets.

Lower RTP affects the hit frequency of bonus rounds, big wins, mega wins, and more, not just the max win.

 

[Jono777]

So I see VS are still ruining bonus rounds with their pointless YOU WON THE USELESS TROPHY THAT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING EXCEPT SPOILING YOUR BONUS ROUND FOR YOU popups.

I have a big soft spot for Blueprint's Worms Reloaded (exactly my sort of low variance, high feature frequency type of game, and the JACKPOT KING element means I can at least dream of winning mega cash on it), and VS appear to be one of the very few casinos that still have it on their books, alas it's not entirely unusual for the bonus round to take longer to play out than VS want to take to pop up their stupid message I have literally zero interest in.

Case in point I just got the jet pack bonus round, made the mistake of replying to a message on WhatsApp before starting to play the bonus, and the popup appeared to tell me I had won the WORMS BIG WIN TROPHY so I knew it was going to be in the 15-20x stake range (30x or better (something like that anyway) is the MEGA WIN TROPHY).

I suppose I should go into my account settings and see if there's a way of turning off this tedious popup spam that I absolutely do not want, and have no interest in, that's intruding upon my slots session.

As you can see here, it basically told me what the bonus round result was going to be, before I'd even started it.

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Not sure what's going on with your account mate but I get these pop ups a minute or so AFTER the event.

 

[aceking123]

Most of what has been stated in this thread is speculation.

Anybody new to the game will read through this and get the impression that 2% doesn't matter, and it only affects the maximum win, which is wrong from what I have seen on game data sheets.

Lower RTP affects the hit frequency of bonus rounds, big wins, mega wins, and more, not just the max win.

Anybody new to these games wouldn't know it was at 96% unless they've been playing for a few years, anyone new to online would be ah the games set at 94%.

Show me the proof that a lower RTP% does Indeed show lesser bonuses, there's more than one way to skin a cat, just look at the bonanza thread.

I'm not a slot developer but I'm pretty sure there are other ways better to get 2% from the wins not affecting the bonus rounds.

 

[aceking123]

It's obviously a bad thing for players that RTP gets lowered, even more so if most will see that as par for the course.

Few may realize how much their favourite games are shafting them over extended, grindey sessions, given that most of the popular titles are outright intergalactic variance anyway - so if they lose £60 instead of £40 in pursuit of the Hollywood Hit, then so be it.

The days of plodding through low-deposit, let's-turn-£20-into-£100 sessions are all but gone, a relic of a bygone age, like when Macklemore ruled the charts. That's how long we're talking

Fact is, that 2% over duration will not be noticed on a modern slot, it just tends to get lost in the sea of 'fun' as dreams of NLC richdom cloud the players. Yet shear two percent off something like the original Bloodsuckers, and you'd find players not using it for their wagering tasks.

How the wins are distributed is key, and so I think an RTP reduction is almost moot in the high-variance climate we find ourselves in. However, casinos nerfing older titles is definitely not cricket, with them essentially ripping the tried & trusted mechanics out, to the point of not being viable entertainment, and players ditching them by default.

That was mainly in aid of clearing up the Aceking vs Bamber lover's tiff. I'm content knowing I've achieved that.

You've been a wonderful audience, thanks for listening!

The Goat lovers tiff haha ? ? ? ?
Nothing to clear up I'm old, Bamber isn't or a guess that.

 

[Jono777]

Believe it or not, I think Bamber is in his late 60's

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Not sure what's going on with your account mate but I get these pop ups a minute or so AFTER the event.

As per my post Jono, I committed the cardinal sin of triggering the bonus round, then taking a minute or two to reply to a WhatsApp message, in which time VS saw fit to pop up some spam telling me what the bonus round was going to pay

So apparently I'm on a timer at VS to play out my bonus rounds on this game as quickly as I can, before it just tells me what the result is anyway....

 

[paul7388]

So I see VS are still ruining bonus rounds with their pointless YOU WON THE USELESS TROPHY THAT MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING EXCEPT SPOILING YOUR BONUS ROUND FOR YOU popups.

I have a big soft spot for Blueprint's Worms Reloaded (exactly my sort of low variance, high feature frequency type of game, and the JACKPOT KING element means I can at least dream of winning mega cash on it), and VS appear to be one of the very few casinos that still have it on their books, alas it's not entirely unusual for the bonus round to take longer to play out than VS want to take to pop up their stupid message I have literally zero interest in.

Case in point I just got the jet pack bonus round, made the mistake of replying to a message on WhatsApp before starting to play the bonus, and the popup appeared to tell me I had won the WORMS BIG WIN TROPHY so I knew it was going to be in the 15-20x stake range (30x or better (something like that anyway) is the MEGA WIN TROPHY).

I suppose I should go into my account settings and see if there's a way of turning off this tedious popup spam that I absolutely do not want, and have no interest in, that's intruding upon my slots session.

As you can see here, it basically told me what the bonus round result was going to be, before I'd even started it.

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You do know you can turn the notifications off at VS so as not to see those popups.

not sure how as never bothered but do know it is possible to do,

 

[Kroffe]

I dont get the argument.
If a 2% difference in rtp does not matter, then surely going down to 92% would be fine, after all its just a 2% difference from 94% so no different to the 94%, and since 94% is just as good as 96% that makes 92% also just as good as 96%.
After that we can move to 90%, then 88% etc etc, as long as we only go down 2% at a time it wont make a difference.

When does it begin to matter?
The answer is of course that the moment you lower the rtp it matters, because you are getting less back.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

You do know you can turn the notifications off at VS so as not to see those popups.

not sure how as never bothered but do know it is possible to do,

Done! Let's get that crap turned off.

Cheers paul!

 

[paul7388]

Done! Let's get that crap turned off.

Cheers paul!

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Hope it works as never tried it myself just knew it was possible.

Agree tho it is a major pain when you play a bonus round and get the message saying big win or mega big win sort of ruins it. Might turn them off myself.

 

[aceking123]

I dont get the argument.
If a 2% difference does not matter, then surely going down to 92% would be fine, after all its just a 2% difference from 94% so no different to 94% that is apparently the same as 96%.
After that we can move to 90%, just another 2% that we all know dont matter.

When does it begin to matter?
Answer is of course that the moment you lower the rtp it matters.
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Am I missing something here It might make a big difference if you was playing ever single day & spending hundreds every day, most people don't play like this some people only play once a month so 2% really isn't going to show. Against 96%.
If it did go as low as 90% one would wonder if it was worth playing, I wouldn't bother myself but each to their own.
You get lower odds in Vegas people still play them.

 

[Kroffe]

Am I missing something here It might make a big difference if you was playing ever single day & spending hundreds every day, most people don't play like this some people only play once a month so 2% really isn't going to show. Against 96%.
If it did go as low as 90% one would wonder if it was worth playing, I wouldn't bother myself but each to their own.
You get lower odds in Vegas people still play them.

It will obviously make a bigger difference if you play more, but it will always make a difference.
Even if its just the biggest hits that are made more rare on the 94% version of a slot it of course matters because you would have a bigger chance of hitting those big hits on the 96% version, even if only doing a single spin.

It doesnt really matter if the odds are better than in vegas, or if the rtp is higher than it is on scratch tickets etc because its irrelevant.
Lowering the chance to win might not matter to you personally, but it does matter and it does make a difference.

 

[aceking123]

Again its down to personal preference & in this case mine I've stated that I have not seen any changes in my play on games, but I'm.not going to sit on a slot spinning though 10000s of spins.

So 2% to me as a player isn't going to make any difference, if it keeps going lower then maybe, but I would just call it a day.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Hope it works as never tried it myself just knew it was possible.

Agree tho it is a major pain when you play a bonus round and get the message saying big win or mega big win sort of ruins it. Might turn them off myself.

Can confirm this works, I just got the jet pack bonus again, deliberately left it for a couple of minutes before starting the round, no pop ups.

Definitely an option to turn off IMO, especially since it's basically just 'session spam' you don't want when playing an online slot. (That spoils results for you!)

(Round paid 40x, but at least I didn't know that before I started jet-packing my worm around the planets!)