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Fortune Lounge Masquerading as own Affiliate for Spamming Purposes?

bernynhel

bernynhel

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Was getting those New Sign Up emails all day long like from every FL Casino in the FL group. Worse even than ROGUE spam, to me, is spam for Sign Up Deals for a group like FL where I've had an account at each of their casinos ever since Bryan was a Junior Moderator at GG and drinking Near Beer! AND this dreck in my MAILmail NOT in my JUNKmail! Think I was mad? The return address said "Donna Summers" but, of course, it wasn't really from her! It was from one of the spammy hell parallel universes. So, I reported every piece to SpamCop.net and also forwarded each one to the FL spam-control/ affiliate sheriff Bryan provided, which is: There were about 4 or 5 every day for over a week and while I never got any reply the FL spam stopped. For almost a week. Everything was great! Until this arrived in my MAILmail, NOT my JUNKmail:


Open New Player Account and get $300 Free
From: Angelina J
Sent: Tue 8/05/08 5:46 PM
Reply-to:[email protected]
To:[email protected]

OK, hmmm. Just like the other ones weren't really from Donna Summers I'd be willing to make a Gentleman's wager that these (YES there ARE more of them! All from different FL casinos!) aren't REALLY from Angelina J! Ha! While E Coyote....etc!

The only main difference (besides the celeb names used and the spammy addresses - the Donna Summers ones were from [email protected]) was that NOW the source view is all DOUBLE SPACED! Great. So, I don't report em to SpamCop yet cuz I foget, if I ever knew, how to covert em (quickly) to single-spaced but I forward em to FL and here's my bright idea in a note I added to the forwarded spam:

This affiliate is an ASSHOLE! FW: Open New Player Account and get $300 Free
From: William XXX ([email protected])
Sent: Wed 8/06/08 1:10 AM
To:FortuneLounge Spam report here FL Spam report here ([email protected])


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I'm starting a new thread at sussexmskpartnershipeast.com about this issue of the large volume of sophisticated spam touting FL. Less than a week after "Donna Summers" stopped now THIS SHIT! Huh! Whodda thunk it! Know what I think? I think FL is masquerading as their own affiliates!! Now the fox really IS watching the the henhouse, or, SPAMhouse and after a week or so, we'll just SEE, won't we? After it runs it course! Ha!

Before it was Donna Summers, now its Angelina J??? This particularly nasty spammer, if not aka Donna Summers, is double-spacing, Donna Summers single spaced. so Spam Cop cannot source them unless I submit it single spaced! Spammers that take extra lengths to defend themselves from me NOW I'm getting from YOU, Fortune Lounge??? So it wasn't bad enough I have to forward this shit to you and report to Spam Cop, now I have to re-format the source view? See! I was only waiting til the WEEKEND to see if the B.S. had stopped and, if so, I was gonna deposit $50-100. NOT another NICKEL deposited in any FL casino until you decide that you will pay more than just lip service with regards to your spam polices and how your affiliates OBVIOUSLY ignore them. Shit rolls downhill. Roll more, faster.

William J. XXX
Los Angeles

OK so why would FL go through all the trouble to pretend to be some lame spammer just so they could get away with spamming their own, known customers, customers with long established, active accounts with New Sign Up promos that couldn't possibly benefit FL in any way, whatsoever, you ask? Well, I haven't quite figured that part out yet. OK!, ok! its probably just some lame, Chinese spammer from Kazakhstan. Or whatever. It still sucks, right?

And its only 2:38 AM here. Call that late? What time does Mommy put YOU to bed? Milk n Cookies:30 PM?
 
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me too

I get the same ones, and I have accounts there also. Oh, don't forget Oprah.(and I thought she had enough money without taking on a second job:p) Today I got a new one for World VIP Fortune Casino. Is that a mouthful? It promised 'enormous money for everyone' Bonus $(euro) 2700. Then another from someone else for same place 'World VIP Games' new bonus 2500 dollars! Then yet another, 'HOT gamblings in World VIP Fortune Casino!' I assume this is spamming?
Oh, I forgot about the one from Winaday Casino. Supposed to be a new place launched by Slotland. $10 freeplay. A new 3D casino. So I googled winaday, and found a thread on casinoaffiliateprograms.com. This guy wanted to know if Freeslots were doing their own affiliate work. The answer from the company's affiliate rep to him was, "we are acquiring new players from our Freeslot.com database in order to verify functionality & performance of our new software & to get feedback from some real players." Anyone ever heard of this place? And was this spamming, or just a legit way for them to get players? I'm still learning.
 
FL were in trouble a while back for failing to control their spammy affiliates. There is NO benefit to FL from sending new player offers to existing players, if anything, it does them damage.

It looks very much as though behind the scenes there was some action taken against "Donna Summers", but all this rogue affiliate did was change domains and set up as "Angelina J" and design the mailers so that spamcop could not deal with them. This shows intent to spam, and is no "misdirected enthusiasm", that can be dealt with by them apologising and promising not to do it again. The affiliate should be identified, and have their account closed, and measures put in place to prevent them from simply opening another. These measures should be possible up to the extent of measures that can be put in place to prevent fraudulent players from opening up multiple accounts & getting paid. Opening multiple accounts as player OR affiliate is easy, but the problem is in reaping the benefits. Given all the ID hoops that PLAYERS go through to receive their withdrawal, it would be the same for affiliates - wouldn't it?
 
vinylweatherman said:
There is NO benefit to FL from sending new player offers to existing players, if anything, it does them damage.
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Someone should TRY to explain that to the Casino Rewards group.
I've had numerous e-mails & about 5 CD's though the post all encouraging me to take a $500 (new player) bonus with Blackjack Ballroom - all sent to the exact same e-mail & physical address that I already have registered on my account at... Blackjack Ballroom.

Casino's 'spamming themselves' is all too common - even among the otherwise reputable ones. One of the worst offenders was the Palace Group, though they seem to have dried up now.

Nothing we can do about it I'm afraid. Just complain to them & hope one day the message sinks in.
 

I'm the wrong gender for Oprah and all those other fem interests, thank God. You ladys out there must have junkmail such as I would only expect to receive in nightmares or in hell. Thankfully, the other casinos have not noticed me yet or I have never opened their spam as whatever akas they may be using as return addresses and subjects are probably so lame I have yet to be duped into opening one! :lolup:

Fortune Lounge, by contrast, should know better and is NO FUC(edited HERE for CM forum posting purposes)ING LAUGHING MATTER!!!

I have long past closed all CR accounts and, I like to think yet I fear I am naive to believe, that the shi(edited HERE for CM forum posting purposes)storm I have rained down on them in the past has been sufficient, to date, to keep even the vilest of CR spammers at bay. I pray every night upon retiring.
 
KasinoKing said:
Someone should TRY to explain that to the Casino Rewards group.I've had numerous e-mails & about 5 CD's though the post all encouraging me to take a $500 (new player) bonus with Blackjack Ballroom - all sent to the exact same e-mail & physical address that I already have registered on my account at... Blackjack Ballroom.

Casino's 'spamming themselves' is all too common - even among the otherwise reputable ones. One of the worst offenders was the Palace Group, though they seem to have dried up now.

Nothing we can do about it I'm afraid. Just complain to them & hope one day the message sinks in.
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I have, and all they can offer is to unsubscribe from EVERYTHING. It is either receive the crap among the decent promos, or receive nothing. Nothing is a good option if you have uninstalled all the CR casinos - the problem is, they keep buying up more:mad:
 
Every day I've forwarded this crap to [email protected] and it just keeps coming. Now the return address says Samantha Fox. I was nearly fooled into thinking Samantha fox was really promoting FL. :rolleyes:

Hey! What if we made up an email list of all these casinos the dickhead spammers are promoting and every CM member sent one email a day to all on the list. We could attach pics of our asses made from scanners. Don't put your entire weight on your all-in-one or flat bed scanner though! And definitely do not turn your backside towards your copier or scanner then attempt to "hop up" backwards onto your desk or copy cart (mines on a glass top desk! OUCH!) intending to have your butt land on the copy/scan surface!!!!Better to set it on the floor and then gently squat until your ass meets the glass! Believe me - best learn from MY mistakes on this one!
 
For what it's worth I've contacted the FL rep re: this spamming and ... like VWM says, not much happening.

To be fair they know that it's not their people sending the spammy stuff out but I think we all guessed that it wouldn't be that simple. What we really want is for them to hunt down the crappy affiliates + friends ... but that seems to be somewhere down on their priority list, somewhere after "Learn Portuguese" one suspects.
 
BOYCOT FORTUNE LOUNGE UNTIL THEY REIN IN THEIR SPAMMY AFFILIATES!!!!

maxd said:
For what it's worth I've contacted the FL rep re: this spamming and ... like VWM says, not much happening.

To be fair they know that it's not their people sending the spammy stuff out but I think we all guessed that it wouldn't be that simple. What we really want is for them to hunt down the crappy affiliates + friends ... but that seems to be somewhere down on their priority list, somewhere after "Learn Portuguese" one suspects.
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I'm still receiving THE SAME SPAM - promotional emails with sign up offers for new customers. I have had accounts at every FL casino for nearly 5 years!. Today I forwarded another piece of this crap, again, from my regular mail inbox, after editing the double spaced header to single spaced and reporting to SpamCop.net, to [email protected] as I have, with ZERO, response for the past three weeks! I should think they could easily track these yay-hoos down, if they don't already know who they are, which I seriously doubt, as all the addresses, whether from Donna Sommers, Angelina J., Samantha Fox, Tiffany Towers, et al, are gameanalyze.com and similar nonsense.

I say:

BOYCOT FORTUNE LOUNGE UNTIL THEY START ENFORCING THEIR OWN ANTI-SPAM POLICIES!!!

They haven't made one dime from me since they ignored my first spam report!! I urge all so nclined to do the same. After all, there are DOZENS of GOOD MG operators out there whom I NEVER have received spam from and, I'd say, out of all the MG operators, none comes to mind quicker, spamwise, than FL!
 
What about complaining to the CELEBRITIES whose names are being misused, this should get results as it is VERY bad for their image to be seen "in bed" with ANY online gambling brand given that the USA is the home of Hollywood, and ANY connection, whether real or not, can do damage to a reputation.
They will have the legal firepower to chase down these casino groups and REQUIRE that their names are not used in this manner, as it would be a breach of copyright, and some of you know how strongly the RIAA feel about this;)

Many celebrities have fan sites, and it may be possible to use feedback to express displeasure. It is unlikely that anyone can contact them personally, but their agents may be accessible.
 
From the outset I wish to reiterate that we take SPAM very seriously and we have an open door policy for any affiliate who has an issue with any Fortune Lounge casino and SPAM. These complaints are investigated rigorously and dealt with decisively.

We have contacted this particular Affiliate and he has assured us of the following: "We are not sending any unsolicted mails. In all of our newsletters we have 2 unsubscribe options, either clicking on the unsubscribe link or replying to the sender email address. Both will get you off the list.

We are, however, monitoring the situation closely and will take action if the situation requires it.

Wim
VP Operations
Fortune Lounge
 
fortunelounge said:
"In all of our newsletters we have 2 unsubscribe options, either clicking on the unsubscribe link or replying to the sender email address.”
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No offense Wim but that's a bit of a dodge don't you think?

We all know that clicking on the "unsubscribe" is generally a pretty unwise thing to do since that's a great way to simply confirm your address for the spammers. So most people don't do it.

Anyway, that's beside the point. Most of the folks who've complained about this specifically have not solicited it, so the "We are not sending any unsolicted mails" argument is obviously highly suspect too.

I think the bottom line is that your affiliate needs a slap-down in order to get the message across. Judging from their lame excuses so far it's a sure bet they are just taking the "bullshit is defense" position so far. You need to let them know that that's not going to be satisfactory.
 

First of all, Wim, no ones clicking any unsubscribe button or any other button of any kind in any mail that is this much of a nuisance. So forget about it!

Secondly, I've had FL accounts at all the sites for years. These incessant emails, without exception, are all sign up offers.

Furthermore, in addition to reporting them to SpamCop.net, I forwarded every piece to: [email protected] for weeks and, after receiving zero response, have been additionally forwarding them to every FL email address I can find!

Your post is the first and only response to the dozens of emails I have sent to every conceivable department at FL over a period of several weeks, with the offending spam attached, first requesting, then demanding and finally, threatening FL to get this slimy, (in addition to adding thousands of lines of random, arbitrary characters to the body of the email, they have now begun double-spacing all the headers so they have to be "handled" for SpamCop.net, etc.) spammy, affiliate, in check!

The open door policy to your affiliates with any FL issues doesn't do me any good and I think that, in regards to my problem, nothing has been said to the spammer and dick is being investigated by FL, vigorously or otherwise. My inbox is still fulla this crap every day so I'm

STILL BOYCOTTING FORTUNE LOUNGE AND INVITE EVERYONE TO JOIN!!!
 
Eh, what's that? I think you need to make that text a little bigger there Bern, I can't quite see what it is you're trying to say. :D
 
This spamming crisis has haunted Fortune Lounge for years, probably more so than any other major online casino group I can recall.

It seems to flare up with monotonous regularity, requiring a blizzard of player complaints before it is damped down by FL....only to rise again repeatedly.

Perhaps Fortune Affiliates needs to apply its collective mind to a lasting solution with a balance of affiliate education and draconian action against offenders.
 
jetset said:
Perhaps Fortune Affiliates needs to apply its collective mind to a lasting solution with a balance of affiliate education and draconian action against offenders.
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Splendid idea, but I don't think I'll be holding my breath waiting for that to happen. :rolleyes:
 
On a positive note, as of this week Fortune Affiliates is now under eCOGRA's scrutiny. In the past, eCOGRA could not get involved in affiliate issues due to their terms of handing player issues only. This expands the playing field and ensures that the aff program will have ample safeguards to prevent spamming affiliates from abusing players' in-boxes.
 
The current sitch...

OK now the same spammers are still there, big as ever, but now their spam is hawking promos for sign up offers from VARIED, other casinos and the Fortune Lounge sites are conspicuous due to omission. Jeeziz. I think I smoked every no deposit bonus online the first DAY I ever knew there was such a thing! And if a new casino came online yesterday with a no deposit offer, I've claimed and lost it already! So why don't they label me a "bonus abuser" (anyone still use that BS ?) and quit emailing me shit?

Eh, what's that? I think you need to make that text a little bigger there Bern, I can't quite see what it is you're trying to say. - maxd
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There's bigger text?! Damn! lol They're not getting a cent from me. I don't care what anyone else does, much. But they NEVER responded to me, personally - not once since I started emailing their spam link and began reporting them to Spamcop.net and I do't care what's in Angelina J's spam today because, as far as I'm concerned, it's there because it has been there, un-checked by FL, for weeks. Every time I see that crap it's FL that comes to mind and reminds me that, yes,

I'M STILL BOYCOTTING THOSE DURDY RAT BASTIDS, FORTUNE LOUNGE!!!

P.S. to CM: Overall, since adding all the anti-spam links you compiled to my contacts and reporting spam to those and to SpamCop.net, my inbox IS a little less cluttered. Thanks! I'm switching away from my current email and dumping IE as well so that should help, also, I hope.
 
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Just out of curiosity Bern, has your FL spam stopped? One could draw that conclusion from your last post.
 
maxd said:
Just out of curiosity Bern, has your FL spam stopped? One could draw that conclusion from your last post.
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Hell NO it hasn't stopped. Just today, 7 out of 35 emails on the first page of my inbox are from SAM F of [email protected]. 3 OF THESE ARE FOR FORTUNE LOUNGE'S VEGAS PALMS and all 7 just in the last 24 hours!! Every piece of spam from these bastards contains New Sign-up Deals, exclusively, all of which I am not eligible for and some are exclusively hawking Fortune Lounge New Sign Up Offers.

[email protected] is the same address of Donna Sommers, Angelina J, et al. I just forwarded all the emails to all my FL email addresses including the so-called spam control address at [email protected] and, to date, I have STILL never, ever received a response from Fortune Lounge on this matter.

This SPAMMMY DOUCHE-BAG, [email protected], aka SAM F is also spamming for SLOTS PLUS (RTG), CASINO SHARE (MG) and GRAND MONDIAL (MG), claiming that GRAND MONDIAL "Just opened TODAY! New CASINO! Best offer in town! 200 usd FREE! plus 200 Free Spins!" Is that RIGHT???

So, in summation, I invite everyone to join me to
BOYCOT FORTUNE LOUNGE MICROGAMING CASINOS FOR REFUSING TO STOP INVASIVE SPAMMING PRACTICES EVEN AFTER BEING CONTACTED DAILY AND ASKED TO STOP IT SINCE AUGUST 6!!!

SLOTS PLUS, CASINO SHARE AND GRAND MONDIAL - WATCH YOUR BACKS!!! YOU'RE HEADED FOR THE SAME S**TLIST!!!
 
bernynhel said:
Hell NO it hasn't stopped. ....
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Ok, well that answers that question. One of the casino people was under the impression that you were now FL spam free.

Later: one question Bern: is there any specific reason that you are targeting FL here? If you've like me you're probably getting spammed by all sorts of folks.
 
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Hi Bernyhell,

I understand your frustration, but please refrain from flaming the casino and its reps. We'll get nowhere this way.

Please forward me the offending spam and I'll get with the aff manager to have this guy's account closed.

Please understand that this has nothing to do with the casino - we're dealing with a rogue affiliate who needs to be put into his place.
 
Casinomeister said:
Hi Bernyhell,

I understand your frustration, but please refrain from flaming the casino and its reps. We'll get nowhere this way.

Please forward me the offending spam and I'll get with the aff manager to have this guy's account closed.

Please understand that this has nothing to do with the casino - we're dealing with a rogue affiliate who needs to be put into his place.
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Berny seems to be saying it is the SAME affiliate, just a different name but the SAME Email/Domain. The Email and Domain show it to be the SAME affiliate, yet surely his FL affiliate account should ALREADY have been closed after the string of complaints early in the month.

Am I to assume that FL simply told this affiliate "don't do it again" rather than closing the account, and said affiliate simply laid low for a week or two, and started up all over again.

This is an ongoing problem with casinos, affiliates who BREAK THE RULES should be shown the same degree of "leniency" that PLAYERS who break the rules are shown. The rough equivalent to the usual "confiscation of winnings & banned from the casino" should be "affiliate account closed, and pending payments for the month of spaming confiscated".

If the affiliate wants to appeal, treat them like the player who appeals, account LOCKED pending outcome, not business as normal (spamming) while they still can to maximise profit before pressure forces action.

Even this does not stop the affiliate from moving to another set of casinos and continuing to spam, but it makes it more troublesome for them, and reduces the eventual profit they make.

When people receive casino spam, ESPECIALLY those who don't actually play, it is the CASINO that gets the blame, not the hidden affiliate. Looking at the average casino spam, the CASINO'S name (and reputation) is all over it, the fact that the offer is from an AFFILIATE is often nowhere to be seen.

Some casinos use VERY similar tactics to the spammers with their own "legitimate" marketing, so it is easy to confuse the two. Casinos also suffer because the spammer makes wild promises on behalf of the casino which players find are unfulfiled when they sign up and deposit - they then blame the CASINO for reneging on the deal, and add them to their own personal rogue list.
 
vinylweatherman said:
This is an ongoing problem with casinos, affiliates who BREAK THE RULES should be shown the same degree of "leniency" that PLAYERS who break the rules are shown. The rough equivalent to the usual "confiscation of winnings & banned from the casino" should be "affiliate account closed, and pending payments for the month of spaming confiscated".
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Amen to that VWM!! :thumbsup:
 
maxd said:
Ok, well that answers that question. One of the casino people was under the impression that you were now FL spam free.

Later: one question Bern: is there any specific reason that you are targeting FL here? If you've like me you're probably getting spammed by all sorts of folks.
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I originally targeted FL here because until very recently the offensive spam originating at said spamhaus was exclusively FL new sign up deals.

However, I am sorry to say, after over two months, hundreds of spam emails forwarded to FL, reports to SpamCop.net plus this thread, spam originating from the very same scuz-buckets now include, as I thought I had made perfectly clear in yesterday's post, in addition to FL promos, new sign up offers from Slots Plus, Grand Mondial and Casino Share (see third paragraph and end of my last post).

The message being sent to me as I see it: The total lack of due diligence on the part of FL in regards to their own anti-spam policies has emboldened this spammer to include more, otherwise, respectable casinos in his spam campaign, going so far as to include two casinos currently residing in the accredited casino list right here at good ol' CM!

Berny seems to be saying it is the SAME affiliate, just a different name but the SAME Email/Domain. The Email and Domain show it to be the SAME affiliate, yet surely his FL affiliate account should ALREADY have been closed after the string of complaints early in the month. -VWM
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I'm sorry if I hadn't made that clear. There is no excuse for this to still be occurring. This is a highly sophisticated spammer who's identity must have certainly been crystal clear to FL the very first time I complained (Aug 6) given the volume of original casino web artwork they are cramming into my inbox. (ouch!)

I understand your frustration, but please refrain from flaming the casino and its reps. We'll get nowhere this way. - CM
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I totally respect this and, to tell you the truth, I couldn't help but wince every time I highlighted that copy for "super-sizing." Wont happen again. After all, you're the boss and I am a guest.

That said, I can't help but wonder what FL is thinking after all that's been said and done while they sit idle as this problem not only continues, unabated, but ecsalates. I take their disrespect personally, on my behalf and as a CM member.

Additionally, I interpret the non-actions of FL and the continued affronts by their affiliate as no less than a direct slap in all of our faces - change that to SPITTING in our faces - because that's how it feels. And should Grand Mondial and Slots Plus stand mute on this, given their status here, well, I can't tell you how to feel, Bryan, and you already know my position on it.

I'll do as you say and leave it up to you. It was yesterday that I found the addition of the 3 casinos mentioned in the same spam containing the FL promos and I am just adding the spam -reporting email address to my contacts and will then forward the emails to them demanding that they rein in this affiliate.

Today there is no new spam from Sam F, so far, though I haven't checked to see if it is there under a new alias.

For once Bern, I actually agree with what you have highlighted You have given them ample opportunities to stop this spamming. - chuchu59
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lol He said, "For once..." Oh well. I'll take what I can get. Thanks chuchu.

I do admit (and I thought it was obvious) that I don't post to be popular. I DO post problems I have with casinos that I sincerely believe must be impacting other CM members as well as myself. I am often dumbfounded to find no posts about situations I rush here to reply to, only to later find dozens of replies to the thread I started because no one else did. My style is intended to make the biggest noise possible for effectiveness in ending a problem asap. I did it for a living and I am very good at it. This is not an apology and you wont find any from me. Anywhere. My posts should offend no CM member as they are directed at the casino's, who we patronize with our hard earned cash and who need no defense from me by anyone here. If anyone reading my posts are embarrassed FOR me because of my directness, lack of tact, out-spoken manner, etc., don't be. These posts are for MY benefit, first and foremost and nobody's name is ever given credit for my words but mine. And, yes, I'm not for everybody. I thought my handle and avatar were fair warning enough for those of you with weak stomachs.
 
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[email protected] is a new spammy face in my in-box with sign up deals I don't need for River Nile, English Harbour and Casino Share. To any reps seeing this - pass it on while I forward the the spam to affiliate mgrs.

Of course all this while there's the TON of spam for the $2400 deal at World Casino - whoever that is - the same web page and the way it looks I wouldn't go there if the 2400 was no deposit w/0 WR and 100% cashable. But this never gets past the junk mail filters and its these top of the casino's who's opening offers that I cant use clogging my inbox that really pisses me off.

So, FL, CasinoShare, and English Harbour, if you're wondering why I haven't deposited in so long, now you know. And not a dime long as I can find your affiliates dumping your junk in my mail. River Nile, I don't recall you except that I have registered an account there and I just know that I'll never get around to you is all.
 
Sam F ([email protected])'s newest offers 14 links to FL signup offers!

Sam F ([email protected]) newest spam includes no less than 15 links, 14 for sign up deals at Fortune Lounge Casinos including "Amazing money offer of 399 that has no restrictions" that takes you here: Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) . One of the links is to Grand Mondial. Four in my inbox within the last 24 hrs from Sam F alone! All new sign up deals mostly for FL casinos that I haven't been eligible for in YEARS!

I forward these emails demanding they quit only every few days to: [email protected] since after weeks and weeks of complaining to them and even reporting to SpamCop.net FL has never ever replied in any way, shape or form. As a matter of fact, I have forwarded spam to no less than half a dozen addresses Bryan has listed on the "Fight Casino Spam Page" here at CM, reported countless others to SpamCop.net and NO casino group's affiliate manager has ever replied. No casino spam has stopped or even reduced in volume. In fact, it's gotten WORSE! And I have NEVER clicked unsubscribe in any casino spam. WTF Bryan?
 
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More Fortune Lounge SPAM !!

This s**t is really getting old, I have had an account at ALL of the Fortune Lounge Casinos for years and years now and this one is promoting 7 Sultans...why has Wim not done anything to stop this ?? Who the hell is this cynthia and how did she have my name and email address if Fortune Lounge did not give it to her...:mad::mad::mad:


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Tellmeaboutit RW! I got FIVE spam emails from SAM F just in the last 24 hrs!! Forwarding all five to the so-called Fortune Lounge Anti-spam emaill address @ [email protected] which I now suspect to be nothing more than a throw-away address used to make people like us and CM just go away. 90% Fortune Lounge new sign up offers. Other offers from CasinoShare, Grand Mondial and SlotsPlus have been included in many Sam F spam.

I never liked Fortune Lounge. As far as larger groups go, I think Fortune Lounge is right down there with the likes of Sunny Group and Casino Rewards. This spam crap is fast plummeting Fortune Lounge to the bottom of that s**t pile. I doubt that, no matter what, going forward, I'd ever patronize FL again.

I use Chrome now and haven't figured out how to use their "Inspect element feature" for SpamCop.net though I should use IE, I guess, since Window Live's "view source" formats perfectly except for eliminating the double spaces. Besides, all the reporting I have done to SpamCop.net hasn't seemed to stop or even reduce spam by one iota.
 
Thank God I dont do MG's. I keep getting some casinobuster thing but thats about it. BTW Bern....One of the very few MG's I did play at was RiverNile and they did pay me , jsut an FYI but that was years ago
 
babs7262 said:
Thank God I don't do MG's. I keep getting some casinobuster thing but thats about it. BTW Bern....One of the very few MG's I did play at was RiverNile and they did pay me , jsut an FYI but that was years ago
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This thread is not about MG casinos, Babs. And on that note, I have never had a payment prob w/MG casinos (just some very slow). & no problem w/software (MG most frequented/played/popular online casinos) and never a question about fairness - I think MG Slots are among the best, when it comes to being able to hit substantially early in the game and also getting a nice payout with smallish bets.

This thread is about some casino operators whom I suspect have written anti-spam policies and then offered links (which Bryan has invested considerable time and effort to list here at CM) for forwarding offending spam containing offers from these same casinos where, once the forwarded spam is received, we are told to believe that someone is there to read the forwarded spam, see which of their affiliates are sending it and then actually do something to stop the spam.

What I believe to be actually true, however, is that once casinos first started getting some, then more complaints about their spam, first from players, then from Bryan contacting them in response to mounting anti-spam threads on CM, word spread among them, and they started writing these strict-sounding, anti-spam policies. They then sent them to CM and published them wherever along with the email address (many, I think, being just throw-away email addresses where everything is deleted and nobody has ever been assigned to check them, let alone read any of it) to give us "something to take action" with, then when the complaints tapered off, which was the best reason for pretending to care at all, casios just continued to do nothing, which was their original intention.

I have forwarded/reported spam to half a dozen of these casinos, writing them to "tell your affiliate to quit spamming me!" hundreds of times over he last few months and never, ever has one casino or casino group replied. I forward all the emails to SpamCop.net - nothing, nada, rien! Not even an "auto response" email letting me know they got any of my messages! Not one message here from any reps either. No rep has even replied in a post here, not to me, anyway. One rep replied, on the defensive, here to a post by maxd, I think, but not to me.

I no longer patronize any casinos I've mentioned in this thread and urge people to request that spam they recieve promoing casinos stop and then if nothing happens, don't deposit in those casinos going forward unless some action taken by the casino(s) is satisfactory.

But don't be surprised if it's just smoke up your ass and I've been farting smoke rings for a while now..
 


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