Irresponsible streamers & affiliates?

[Slotdemon180]

Hi all. I'm new to this forum and to online casinos in general. I won't bore anyone with tales of losses but I would like people's thoughts on streamers and affiliates for various casinos.

Of course I realise that their videos are designed to encourage people to play but I can't see how or why it's allowed. Some are more realistic than others but some seem to reel off back to back 1000x wins that normal punters simply won't see. If their wins are genuine, how on earth can they afford to play at high stakes for long enough to get these huge wins? Some streamers eg Nickslots have several 'once in a lifetime' bonuses at £5 or £10 stakes.

Are they playing with 100% casino money? Or are the slots tuned in their favour? What is certain is that people see the wins, then in some cases bankrupt themselves trying to get one of their own which never comes.

It's extremely irresponsible and damaging in my opinion and more streamers should stress the dangers and what happens in reality. Thanks for your time!

 

[goatwack]

It's not something we've touched on before, so it'll be interesting to hear people's varying takes on the subject

 

[lockinlove]

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[Playford7]

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Easy tiger.
More pressing issues personally of late to take on this tempting thread.

 

[Borgie]

What are these streamers spoken of? Like the things you hang at parties?. Playford may well hang a few.

 

[Playford7]

What are these streamers spoken of? Like the things you hang at parties?. Playford may well hang a few.

I’d love to hang many a streamer, believe me.
But as said in the grand scheme of things it ain’t that important to me at the minute.

 

[paul7388]

Oh good another streamer thread.

 

[sufferinsilence]

Been a while. Welcome btw.

 

[Slotdemon180]

If I'm going over old ground apologies I did look for info before starting a new thread. Really just want to know how bent they are and if as I suspect they get more wins than the average Joe, why it's allowed

 

[dionysus]

If I'm going over old ground apologies I did look for info before starting a new thread. Really just want to know how bent they are and if as I suspect they get more wins than the average Joe, why it's allowed

yeah, there's a fair few (and heated) exisiting threads; google and the search tool (top right) are your friend

 

[pinnit2014]

If I'm going over old ground apologies I did look for info before starting a new thread. Really just want to know how bent they are and if as I suspect they get more wins than the average Joe, why it's allowed

 

[goatwack]

It's not that we don't want to answer you OP, it's just that we've run out of things to say!

In a nutshell, small-stake streamers that showcase a passion = good

Big- money streambots that bet disproportionately to your average punter whilst proclaiming it easy = bad

 

[Slotdemon180]

Research done - my post sounds shite compared to some from the more educated on here. Good to see others anger at blatantly dishonest content causing misery to the easily influenced

 

[dionysus]

there's a learning curve for everyone

 

[Bloatgoat]

Streaming is pretty much casino affiliation. Now in order to not give the masses the idea that 9 out of 10 deposits can result in a big o loss, they make deals with casino's. These deals consist out of free money to play with, or deals that could 'compensate' some sort of way by affiliation. Either way the money has to come from somewhere, and streamers with large viewers could benefit the best.

Now a paid streamer is'nt really a bad one either, but the deals he or she is getting is simply put misleading and the wins being presented like you could be the next billionaire on this planet with just a 50 cents spin is unreal to be honest. Well not unreal but at least one out of a millions of spins. It's always the low bets in where ludicrous pays exists.

In my opinion, any casino is build to lead to more risk betting. If you want to win big you gotta bet big, with the risk of losing faster, or completely gambling up your funds because of a growing addiction over time. Many people bin there, many people currently seeking help or blew it all away sort of say.

I think the time of streamers has come to an end, where youtube is banning more and more accounts now that solely set their shit up for affiliation. It does'nt belong there if you ask me and it's misleading. I guess the various spam reports on such channels finally took efforts. Entertaining you said? The only ones i could find myself entertained by just watching are just 2, the rest of 'm simply try to lure you into signing up their shit.

Remember, before the whole streaming thing, catching affiliates was mostly out of marketing in more aggresive and evasing ways. These days it's no different really where the catch is a streamer can be paid up to 70% of your deposit's loss. So yes it's lucrative when a streamer hauls in a player with 2k on avg deposits a month.

So be smart; dont signup using affiliate links. Downvote if you dislike, or even hit a spam report. That breeding and misleading shit sooner or later stops.

 

[FargoVIP]

Casino Streamers are really mostly casino affiliation, but not all.
Who Streams slots should be affiliated but there are also guys who stream blackjack and backarat, I thinkg they are fine

 

[CasinoNinja]

Streamers make ton of money with affiliation for suckers who sign up to their links and lose trying to bet with £10 bets themselves, + they get 100-300% deposit bonuses on every single deposit so they can easily afford to play these stakes in and out.

Most streamers have said that the actually winnings from slots they don't withdraw, but rather keep it as money to play on with slots, so that should give you an idea how much money it's in for them with affiliation.

 

[Slottery]

Wouldn't make much sense to stream 20-40 hours a week if you don't get decent income about it. Spend a lot of time for playing slots in stream and chat with viewers wouldn't bet something many do if you don't make money out of it.

 

[dionysus]

Wouldn't make much sense to stream 20-40 hours a week if you don't get decent income about it. Spend a lot of time for playing slots in stream and chat with viewers wouldn't bet something many do if you don't make money out of it.

I dunno, there's people sit in here and watch vids and chat 40+ hrs a week...for free

 

[Gaz237]

Hi all. I'm new to this forum and to online casinos in general. I won't bore anyone with tales of losses but I would like people's thoughts on streamers and affiliates for various casinos.

Of course I realise that their videos are designed to encourage people to play but I can't see how or why it's allowed.

It's extremely irresponsible and damaging in my opinion and more streamers should stress the dangers and what happens in reality. Thanks for your time!

People need to take responsibility for there own actions, all this blaming others is a joke.

 

[goatwack]

Gaz:

handy for when Playford's on hiatus

 

[Slottery]

I dunno, there's people sit in here and watch vids and chat 40+ hrs a week...for free

Sure, still watching something or making it differs little bit Can be that some people love to spend loads of money for playing slots to entertain people

 

[interlog]

All a bunch of Joddrells

 

[9HOURSAWAY]

In my humble opinion the only two YouTube slot / gambling channels worth watching Are Dazza G and Hyperlinx.
Two polar opposite personalities, but both as entertaining as each other.
Not interested in any others, won't name names, but certain channels are let's just say. not representative at all of real life play.

 

[goatwack]

I assume Interlog's gone all Cockney Rhyming Slang on our asses there, so essentially calling them reputable erm 'bankers'

At least that's all Google gave me. It'll do

 

[sufferinsilence]

In my humble opinion the only two YouTube slot / gambling channels worth watching Are Dazza G and Hyperlinx.
Two polar opposite personalities, but both as entertaining as each other.
Not interested in any others, won't name names, but certain channels are let's just say. not representative at all of real life play.

And Dazza winning on Bonanza is like real life?

 

[toph11]

i used to enjoy dazza g's bonanza videos until one day he was exposed and he was playing with demo money
oddly enough he removed all of his bonanza videos shortly afterwards
as for these streamers winning thousand's of x wins, it is all luck
i play almost daily and i usually get a thousand x win once or twice a year
these streamers play slots more than me so their odds of winnings a thousand x is better i guess?

edit: i only mentioned dazza g because of someone mentioning him on this post
i unsubbed from him since the exposure and i guess i wasted my time watching his videos

 

[goatwack]

And Dazza winning on Bonanza is like real life?

You're still not going on about Affiliate RTP again?

We all know Dunover uses it

 

[sufferinsilence]

You're still not going on about Affiliate RTP again?

We all know Dunover uses it

Nobody wins at Bonanza, it only has potential™

 

[goatwack]

Nobody wins at Bonanza, it only has potential™

You clearly haven't heard of StreamerWays ™

 

[sufferinsilence]

i used to enjoy dazza g's bonanza videos until one day he was exposed and he was playing with demo money
oddly enough he removed all of his bonanza videos shortly afterwards
as for these streamers winning thousand's of x wins, it is all luck
i play almost daily and i usually get a thousand x win once or twice a year
these streamers play slots more than me so their odds of winnings a thousand x is better i guess?

edit: i only mentioned dazza g because of someone mentioning him on this post
i unsubbed from him since the exposure and i guess i wasted my time watching his videos

The only alleged "proof" I've ever heard is because GO wasn't on the screen when he started his video I guess everyone believes whatever they want but he has explained both the start screen and why he removed videos at that time and shown his bank account on multiple occasions.

 

[Gaz237]

And Dazza winning on Bonanza is like real life?

Dunover's videos are worth it, for the commentary alone.

 

[Slotdemon180]

People need to take responsibility for there own actions, all this blaming others is a joke.

Agreed. But seeing these big wins is bound to tempt people who don't understand just how unlikely they are. I'm sure most people start with limits in mind and never imagine they could become problem gamblers. Players must take responsibility, as should people trying to get others involved in gambling given how devastating the consequences can be.

 

[goatwack]

It's fine, because some have Responsible Gambling banners and age-ratings plastered all over the shop, while of course their play patterns indicate anything but!

Think of it as a cloak of absolution

 

[Ortmom]

I still have such a hard time believing that there are people who take those streamers seriously. It's just so damn wrong.

 

[Kroffe]

And Playford only just returned from banland.

 

[paul7388]

And Playford only just returned from banland.

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You just had to didn't you.

 

[Kroffe]

You just had to didn't you.

No, i wanted to.

 

[dionysus]

well, that's something different to see
usually one would say 'don't poke the bear' but it's the bear doing the poking

 

[Jono777]

Dunover's videos are worth it, for the commentary alone.

He's (sadly) calmed down quite a lot over the past couple of years, his earlier vids when he first started out were comedy gold!

Still laugh inside to this day over the side effects of co-codamol, Odin from TS II noncing around the school gates and his subtle reference to the chap with the cap in CTFBL slot.

 

[Gaz237]

He's (sadly) calmed down quite a lot over the past couple of years, his earlier vids when he first started out were comedy gold!

Still laugh inside to this day over the side effects of co-codamol, Odin from TS II noncing around the school gates and his subtle reference to the chap with the cap in CTFBL slot.

Is the video still available @dunover

 

[Davey86]

Surely it’s hit it’s peak now so many streamers playing max bet now that their sign ups/affiliation will decline and either turn on each other chasing £££££ or just be band outright by authority’s eventually

 

[dunover]

i used to enjoy dazza g's bonanza videos until one day he was exposed and he was playing with demo money
oddly enough he removed all of his bonanza videos shortly afterwards
as for these streamers winning thousand's of x wins, it is all luck
i play almost daily and i usually get a thousand x win once or twice a year
these streamers play slots more than me so their odds of winnings a thousand x is better i guess?

edit: i only mentioned dazza g because of someone mentioning him on this post
i unsubbed from him since the exposure and i guess i wasted my time watching his videos

I was ACCUSED not 'exposed' because some imbeciles and trolls couldn't grasp the fact that when you reload the game at some casinos it returns with the default 'GOL' screen and others it resets to your last play. I even posted the bank transactions relating to those videos but hey, it isn't enough for the blind or stupid, so what's the point...

FTR I removed all videos (bar a few I needed at the time for web content on review sites) not just Bonanza ones. Since the threat to real gambling video YT channels seems to have subsided I now post Bonanza sessions again. If you like, get an independent member here who knows me personally or one of the Admin/Mods to check my debit card statements for any of the videos I have on my channel and ask them to confirm yeah or nay that my play is genuine. I don't splatter my videos with casino backgrounds, just the game, that's how I like it.

 

[Julian_NL]

Hi all. I'm new to this forum and to online casinos in general. I won't bore anyone with tales of losses but I would like people's thoughts on streamers and affiliates for various casinos.

Of course I realise that their videos are designed to encourage people to play but I can't see how or why it's allowed. Some are more realistic than others but some seem to reel off back to back 1000x wins that normal punters simply won't see. If their wins are genuine, how on earth can they afford to play at high stakes for long enough to get these huge wins? Some streamers eg Nickslots have several 'once in a lifetime' bonuses at £5 or £10 stakes.

Are they playing with 100% casino money? Or are the slots tuned in their favour? What is certain is that people see the wins, then in some cases bankrupt themselves trying to get one of their own which never comes.

It's extremely irresponsible and damaging in my opinion and more streamers should stress the dangers and what happens in reality. Thanks for your time!

I don't reckon the slots are turned in their favour (although this wouldn't be difficult to do I suppose)... I do believe however that a lot of these streamers are just playing with Casino money and that they don't get to keep their entire balance... (I mean seriously, some of these streamers have £16k in their balance). The casino gets some visibility & brand awareness but is there a consensus that streaming a certain online casino actually results in customer turnover on the other end? I don't really see that happening, so therefore a deal must have been made between the casino & streamer whereby they provide some funds to play whatever they want and that they can keep a certain portion of the winnings only...

Maybe I'm just talking nonsense though! I do encourage others to chip in and let me know their thoughts as well

 

[Davey86]

Affiliates pretty much advertise the same casinos unless their is a brand new casino for them most people are already signed up, if their is a new casino does that casino choose who it wants to work with first? Do they make a deal for the right price! Like BTG makes its release exclusive for a price,

 

[colinsunderland]

See a certain streamer has started doing football tips now. I really don't like these, most are on rev share and therefore it's in their interests for you to lose. I watched footyaccums closely for about 6 months a couple of years back and it's very clear what they were doing, yes they would put the odd winner up, but the vast majority lost, and a large amount were ridiculous bets that would never win, or extremely unlikely to. The practice was widely criticised in the press a couple of years back, and it died off a little and the main players moved to CPA to stop the suggestion that they wanted people to lose. Funnily enough, at the same time, the amount of tips slowed down and the success rate got higher.

 

[Davey86]

See a certain streamer has started doing football tips now. I really don't like these, most are on rev share and therefore it's in their interests for you to lose. I watched footyaccums closely for about 6 months a couple of years back and it's very clear what they were doing, yes they would put the odd winner up, but the vast majority lost, and a large amount were ridiculous bets that would never win, or extremely unlikely to. The practice was widely criticised in the press a couple of years back, and it died off a little and the main players moved to CPA to stop the suggestion that they wanted people to lose. Funnily enough, at the same time, the amount of tips slowed down and the success rate got higher.

What does CPA actually mean what other kinds of affiliation is their?

 

[interlog]

What does CPA actually mean what other kinds of affiliation is their?

CPA - Cost per Acquisition - a one off fixed fee for each depositing new player
Revenue Share - a % of the players losses (minus casino fees)
Hybrid - a combination of both of the above

 

[Davey86]

How profitable is it in real terms or is their older threads I can get a heads up on and not ask to many questions

 

[interlog]

How profitable is it in real terms or is their older threads I can get a heads up on and not ask to many questions

Very much hit and miss. In the "olden" days it was a little easier. These days it is very hard work in a very busy competitive market.