Ok i will try and make this short and to the point. I was recently involved with the treasure keepers malfunction on playojo which affected many players. So upon researching options and talking to my local gaming commission it was determined that playojo actually is not licensed to operate in my area. Playojo is aware of my location as it had to be provided. So at this point i looked into legal advice and spoke with a lawyer. His suggestion was to make a formal complaint with playojo and request a full refund on deposits as they can not operate in my territory. It was worded as all bets, wagers and winnings are void as they can not operate in my location. What is everyones thoughts on this?
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From what I know of Sask, the only "licenced" online casino is PlayNow Sask.
Like most provinces, other than Ontario ofcourse, online gambling is in a bit of a grey area. It's not illegal and its not legal. Quebec for example also only has one "legal" site, Loto-Quebec.
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Ah you replied with the same information essentially whilst I was writing.
They can operate in your territory, they just aren't licenced to, like every other casino in the world bar PlayNow. It's not illegal for them to offer their site to residents and it's not illegal for residents to play there. Equally they can't be penalised for doing so.
As mentioned in the original thread about this topic, I think all the players affected by the treasure keeper issue should have their deposits/bonuses reinstated but the road you are going down to try and get all your deposits back is a road to nowhere as the basis for it is faulty.
They can operate in your territory, they just aren't licenced to, like every other casino in the world bar PlayNow. It's not illegal for them to offer their site to residents and it's not illegal for residents to play there. Equally they can't be penalised for doing so.
As mentioned in the original thread about this topic, I think all the players affected by the treasure keeper issue should have their deposits/bonuses reinstated but the road you are going down to try and get all your deposits back is a road to nowhere as the basis for it is faulty.
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Weird the lawfirm i spoke with said they can not operate in sask.
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It's semantics. I shouldn't have used the term "operate". They can be available in sask.
You can't operate an unlicenced gambling company out of Sask. Offshore companies can offer their websites to Sask residents with no issues.
It comes down to the local regulators only regulating local companies and due to gaps in legislation, offshore gaming makes itself at home in a nice little grey area.
As a demonstration of this, you'll notice that the online permit holders from a gaming commission based the mohawk territory of Quebec are all offshore. A tiny quebec focused casino called PlayNumbersGame has to base itself out of the Isle of Man for example.
You won't get anywhere with this I'm afraid and I encourage you not to waste any money on it.
As all but one casino in existence would be guilty of what you accuse, if it had any legal standing someone would have already won a case and set a precedent and there's a very good reason why that hasn't happened.
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The information provided by the SLGA is that PlayOJO is not licenced in Sask. This is absolutely correct but unfortunately irrelevant as you are allowed to play their and they are allowed to take your play.
Unless the lawyer you contacted was a specialist, it's likely the information you provided to them did not give them all the context required to come to a fully informed conclusion. They were likely under the impression that without a licence from the SLGA, it would be illegal to allow players from Sask, which just isn't the case.
Saskatchewan would need to make offshore online gambling illegal on a provincial level to enable you to achieve what you want. As I've stated, it's currently not legal and not illegal.
You are welcome, I'm just trying to prevent you from wasting any time/money on this direction. I am very interested to see how this playojo situation develops and ultimately concludes for everyone.
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I agree with what they say. They aren't legally authorised to operate in sask. Whether they mean operating out of Sask or offering services to Sask players is up for debate.
It's not illegal and it's not legally authorised. It's between the legislation and has been for a long time. There have been opportunities to make it illegal but they haven't gone through.
Also you made an error in your post. Whilst initially researching prior to my first response on this thread I looked into SIGA, LGS and SLGA. The SLGA exited the retail market and took on a wholesale role. They established the LGS as a new crown corporation to replace Saskatchewan Gaming Corporation (SGC) who would now oversee lotteries, internet gambling etc etc whilst assuming the role of an "independent regulator"
LGS was created by SLGA to replace SGC and whilst it took over most of their previous duties, it did not replace them.
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Thanks for the clarity all I knew was it used to be called SLGA and in recent years it was changed to LGS. I didn't know the specifics of the change itself other than there was a change.
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I guess that is where legal counsel absolutely would come in and would have to determine if they feel they have a strong enough case to consider offering services to sk players being against current legislation. As said before its a lot of grey area and hard to know without at a minimum legal counsel that decision would be for a lawyer to determine which I am certainly far from.
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The problem is you guys are conflating not being allowed to operate in the province of Saskatchewan as not being allowed to be available in Saskatchewan. These are two very different things.
It's not so much that offshore casinos are legal, but just simply not prohibited. Residents are not restricted from playing at them and operators are not restricted or penalised for accepting Canadian customers not marketing towards them.
If an unlicenced online casino had a physical presence in the province of Saskatchewan then it would be extremely illegal and they would be penalised to hell and back.
Legal counsel is not required to determine the legality as it's extremely cut and dry. All you need is a bit of critical thinking and a very basic understanding of federal and provincial law pertaining to online gambling.
Bottom line is offshore casinos are not prohibited. Online casinos physically based in Saskatchewan are illegal and completely prohibited without proper licencing.
It's also worth mentioning theres a monetary incentive to funnel players to only "legal" platform which happens to be owned by or directly benefits the government of the province.
If what I'm saying wasn't the case, then thousands of casinos wouldn't openly go after Canadian players and there would me many many successful legal cases. There's also a reason casinos hide their true companies when illegally making themselves available to UK players but do not hide anything when taking Canadian play.
