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New Rival - Tradition Casino. Ridiculous no deposit bonus playthrough

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Just saw this. The 200% deposit bonus is pretty good at 17x and no maximum withdrawal but these "New player" no deposit bonuses are basically impossible to win off. Anybody keen enough to try the $1919 no deposit bonus?
 
Just tried to claim the $30. Won't let me because I claimed the $10 at Vegas Regal within the last hour. :what:

I see you recently played another promotion on another Rival Powered based casino. The system currently requires a 1 hour cool down period before you can claim this bonus.
 
Took the $30, was only betting 1c or 2c per line. Tried Scary Rich 2 and Fixer Upper, didn't ever get one feature.

p.s You can only claim one of those no deposit bonuses. Once you claim one the other one disappears.
 
I'm workin on the 1919 bonus, this one is just for the fun of it, afterall can't be serious with the wagering requirement it carries :eek:. But been playing for the last 4 hours and still have just over 1100, but am calling it a night since the site is bogging down and the spins are stalling, must be a gazillion people playing this one.
What a hoot! Three Hundred & Eighty some odd Thousand playthrough! Will marketing wonders never cease!
 
Ive been playing this for about 3 hours now and am a little over $2,000, but not getting my hopes up.

Not sure if anyone noticed, but this promo "times out":confused: after 24 hours. I figured you will have to spin constantly for about 19 hours straight at $20 a pop with no breaks to achieve this sort of playthru. So its pretty safe to stay that this promo is just about mathematically and physically impossible.

I should have chosen the $30 freebie.
 
They also have a 1919% first deposit bonus with almost as nutty terms....


So if you did the minimum you'd get $96,000 to play with and only $14,400,000 wagering requirements and only 24 hours to play them to cash out $200 from your $50 deposit. First of all who would even bother with this virutal-like promotion and on the other hand who would deposit $100 just to be able to cash out $200?

If you spun $20 a pull it'd take 720,000 pulls to achieve this play-through and at 5 seconds a pull it'd take 1,000 hours and that's barring any bonus spins. In other words, impossible.

These people are idiots.
 
Players from The Netherlands don't waste your time, we are not even allowed to open an account.:mad:
If you want to read their T&C's you better take a few days off from work, holy moses:eek:
This one I found to be very interesting tough, especially with the Slotbeaters thread going:

4.1.9. The user accepts the obligation not to use any software or device able to modify, for their own benefit and/or the benefit of a third party, the use of Tradition Casino services. The user recognizes that Tradition Casino is the only judge in the matter if a doubt were to occur. To the same degree, any use of a martingale betting system is strictly prohibited inside the casino and this prohibition extends to the whole of existing and future Tradition Casino games.

As far as I can see this means you're not allowed to up your bets after an X amount of spins?:confused:
Never seen this before, and as Martingale is supposed to work against a player, a very weird term..

That 1919% bonusoffer reminds me of CoolCats Mission Impossible, what a bunch of crap.
 

Me thinks your math is off just a wee bit there Brian...:D It looks like you straight multiplied instead of percentage.

Bonus Value: max 1919$//

But you are correct about it being a totally ridiculous bonus...it's absolutely insane! ...:rolleyes:
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I dunno if they're idiots.
But you are correct about it being a totally ridiculous bonus...it's absolutely insane! ...
Ok, ya'll, I am reading all these comments by you guys and I am sitting here LMAO because almost everyone is saying these outrageous things but yet CLAIMUING the bonuses...and I am sitting here wondering...just who are the crazies now??? :lolup::lolup::lolup: I am saying this lovingly to all my posters...so please take it that way...as a mother talks to her kids...you know?
I'm bonus banned at most Rivals!!!
Just because they built the bridge in gold doesn't mean you have to jump off of it for sh*ts and giggles....OMG...You guys are toooo cute!

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Ok, ya'll, I am reading all these comments by you guys and I am sitting here LMAO because almost everyone is saying these outrageous things but yet CLAIMUING the bonuses...and I am sitting here wondering...just who are the crazies now??? :lolup::lolup::lolup: I am saying this lovingly to all my posters...so please take it that way...as a mother talks to her kids...you know? Just because they built the bridge in gold doesn't mean you have to jump off of it for sh*ts and giggles....OMG...You guys are toooo cute!

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I never took it, don't intend to either. There's way too many other great bonuses given to me by some of the other Rival's I play at regularly.:)
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That just doesn't make sense at all; casinos don't make money by having terms like this. Instead, this is one reason why casinos limit the highest bet sizes permitted.

Oh, well, I like the lobby - I'm going to give it a try. :)
 
Does anyone know if you can receive a bonus from this lot if you are bonus banned at other Rival casino's? (WTF is up with that rule anyways??)

I know Vegas Regal gives you bonuses even tho you are "banned" in the Rival system. :thumbsup:

And for the bonus, you got to laugh don't you? :lolup:
Guess you have to compare it to "fun mode", the difference beeing that here you can actually cash out a little something if you are superman.
 
Looks rogue to me. IF they are going to prohibit "Martingale", there is such a WIDE DEFINITION of this that they can go around disqualifying pretty much everybody's wins who ever changes their stakes around.

Betting limits ALONE are more than enough to kill any attempt to use Martingale to make a profit, and even when an individual Martingale cycle WORKS, the player ONLY profits overall by 1x his original bet.

The 1919 credit bonus is similar to the Microgaming "1000 free play" offers, where a large free balance is given, but only a small amount can be transferred into the casino bonus account.

People WILL play the 1919 free, because they ONLY have to deposit AFTER they know the outcome, so players have NOTHING TO LOSE, and 200 to gain.
The size of bankroll ensures that there is little chance of beating it, because long term edge, rather than short term variance, is the main force over such a large WR.
Players may be miffed if they hit really big though, because they could then meet WR with a substantial balance, lost because of the max cashout. The same thing happens with the MGS version.
 
Nutz

Its crazy, but its free. Even if the terms were 500x playthrough, I'd try it since its free. I consider it fun mode. I play in fun mode a lot on rtg/mg, but not Rival (no autospin) This way, I can pretend its fun, and use autospin. No expectations of winning, but will be slightly entertained. When that's all gone, I will deposit the 17x /200% and low roll like normal.

After reading Vinyl's post, I have a question. Since obviously most will play high at first to try to get the balance up, what if the pattern stays the same on the free chip. Example $5.00 spin. Then when you play on your own money say .80 per spin, can they deny your win because they say you changed your pattern from previous play?
 
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Its crazy, but its free. Even if the terms were 500x playthrough, I'd try it since its free. I consider it fun mode. I play in fun mode a lot on rtg/mg, but not Rival (no autospin) This way, I can pretend its fun, and use autospin. No expectations of winning, but will be slightly entertained. When that's all gone, I will deposit the 17x /200% and low roll like normal.

After reading Vinyl's post, I have a question. Since obviously most will play high at first to try to get the balance up, what if the pattern stays the same on the free chip. Example $5.00 spin. Then when you play on your own money say .80 per spin, can they deny your win because they say you changed your pattern from previous play?

I doubt it. Firstly, Martingale involves INCREASING the bet through a range, and secondly, the change from free to REAL money explains why a player would LOWER their stake to more responsible levels. If they DID void play on this basis, they would end up in the pit.

The operators seem afraid that Martingale ACTUALLY WORKS over the LONG term. It DOESN'T, and MAINLY because there are BET LIMITS, rather than the fact the maths itself shows this. Provided they set their limits properly, they will NEVER be exposed to a big loss from a Martingale player.
Most casinos WELCOME players using such systems, because it makes them money in the LONG TERM, whilst in the SHORT term, many systems appear to WORK. This is because the risk of failure is small, but failure, when it comes, is DEVASTATING. This is shown by the original Martingale idea of doubling the bet each loss, this exponential growth can reach a stage where the player is unable to bet again because they have lost everything. The odds of such a long losing sequence are low, but if it happens, that is the end for the player, and the casino has ALL his money.
 
The max cashout limit is HUGE:notworthy

But maybe will be possible at least to grind some comp points while playing 1919?

Playthrough(playtrough?) is very PLAYER FRIENDLY:lolup: for all bonuses.Maximum I've seen before for ND was x50 at Superior.For deposit x60don't remember where.

What will happen after 24hrs if you won and completed WR? You may have a huge balance BTW.You could gain some comps and redeem them for COOL HARD CA$H:D later if they do allow this.

Thx Rival for banning me!
 
Ok, ya'll, I am reading all these comments by you guys and I am sitting here LMAO because almost everyone is saying these outrageous things but yet CLAIMUING the bonuses...and I am sitting here wondering...just who are the crazies now??? :lolup::lolup::lolup: I am saying this lovingly to all my posters...so please take it that way...as a mother talks to her kids...you know? Just because they built the bridge in gold doesn't mean you have to jump off of it for sh*ts and giggles....OMG...You guys are toooo cute!

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Some things are played just for the pure fun of it, don't make any one of us crazies. If we seriously wanted to walk away with money we would have taken the $30 chip. The $1919 chip is just for the competition to see how far you can get, how long it will last and just because it's fun, not serious.
By the casino giving this kind of free chip with the WR it shows they are not serious about gaining anyone as a real player, so I personally am not serious about keeping this casino on my desktop when I am done with this insane bonus. Otherwise I would be playing the $30 free chip.
 
Does anyone know if you can receive a bonus from this lot if you are bonus banned at other Rival casino's? (WTF is up with that rule anyways??)

I know Vegas Regal gives you bonuses even tho you are "banned" in the Rival system. :thumbsup:

And for the bonus, you got to laugh don't you? :lolup:
Guess you have to compare it to "fun mode", the difference beeing that here you can actually cash out a little something if you are superman.

I'm bonus banned at most of the Rivals and any new one's usually ban me from the off. Not this one! Kind of worrying...:confused:
 
Unless they compel you to take a no-deposit bonus before taking out the 1st deposit bonus I would take the 200% bonus and deposit $50 first. If I bust on that I will then take the ND$1919. Reason? After you have deposited at least $50 whatever you wager counts as comps. The comps gained from your first deposit play and the $1919 should come pretty close to the $50 you deposited.
 
first of all, hi everybody and please excuse my bad english, but i come from near germany and so english is not my first language, but i hope that you can understand me at least a little bit.

i have read your forum and found this thread, so i tried also this casino and used the 30 no deposit bonus and believe it or not, but i could really fulfill the WR of 100x (3.000.- playthrough)

i certainly never thought, that this can happen and surely not even for me, but i played onn the slots with only 20 cent spins in autoplay mode with the fastest spins, so it takes about six hours to fulfill this WR, but i have now left about 250.-

i must now only make my first 25.- deposit, but i will wait sometime, because i don#t know, if they really want to pay me and i don't want to lose 25.- for nothing.

it looks also like they pay faster like another rival casinos, because i have found this written on their banking side "As soon as you wish to request a withdrawal via your Tradition Casino player account and once granted by our service, your payment will be effective within the next 48 hours maximum."

and they process even on weekends, which is also great and "slotocash" is the only rival i know, which do this also and pay out even within latest 12 hours.

had anyone made a withdrawal on this casino and get her/his money?

thanks for your help.

nice greets, eu_lowroller
 
10.2. In order to receive his profits, the user must go to the casino bank and click on the corresponding heading named Withdrawal. The balance of the user will thus be modified immediately and the withdrawal will have a status called On standby. This statusOn standby is fixed at five working days, this time is fixed, irrevocable and nonnegotiable with the casino.

Their sign-up looks good, but this put me off.
5 day pending period, thats a joke :what:

Freddy
 
5 day pending period, thats a joke :what:

but how can you explain this rule?

"As soon as you wish to request a withdrawal via your Tradition Casino player account and once granted by our service, your payment will be effective within the next 48 hours maximum"

although it looks like, that they have difference rules?

"Most collections do not take more than five working days. For the record, casino payments for the online Tradition Casino are usually made within five days of the request even on weekends.

If you are a member of the VIP players, you may be able to accelerate matters by asking that your collections be flushed. These types of collections speed up the process but are irreversible.

Payment is made via your virtual wallet (NETeller, Quicktender). Once received, the money is electronically transferred into your bank account. You will then need to wait 3 to 5 working days before being able to have full access to your winnings."

now i'm a little confused.

i could withdraw 150.- from my free bonus, but i must make a 25.- deposit.

the question is, should i risk this?

i prefer to wait until an another user got his withdrawal, because i won't lost my own money.
 
I'm bonus banned at most of the Rivals and any new one's usually ban me from the off. Not this one! Kind of worrying...:confused:

I signed up at Tradition and Tropica and my account was locked immediately...I think I am still the grand master of being banned at "most" Rivals:D:D (With the exception of Sloto, Vegas Regal, and Vanguard ).:thumbsup:
 
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Hello, don't worry about your english, its fine. I wish I knew another lanquage:mad: Anyway, I think it would be OK to make that verification deposit to get your withdrawal. I think all of the Rivals require this, even Sloto.
 
I think all of the Rivals require this, even Sloto.
hi, thanks for your answer and that you can understand me :)

yes i know, that normally all rival casinos need this verification deposit, but i've played only in rival casinos, from which i knew, that they are fine, but since this casino is very new and i couldn't read any experiences from another players in difference forums, i better would wait some days or so?

i'm only a lowroller, so even 25.- is very much for me ;)
 
OK FWIW - I tried this 1919 out.

Well - betting at MAX bet on REEL of FORTUNE and then FANTASY - left me with about 35 minutes of play - or less.

And nothing won - had ONE... Yep --- ONE --- bonus feature in ALL off that.

It Sucked.

So - knowing that I will play a bonus and not expect to win doodly squat because I play for entertainment and not money value --- this particular bonus stunk to high heaven and gave me absolutely NO playing time --- either that or the slots stink at this particular place.
 
I played the $1919, till I was in a mind numbing daze! Two days nearly, playing from $3 to $37. I mostly played Metal Detector as it's my favorite, then Jacques Pot, Grandma's Attic and Pigskin Payout and that Plinko one. Most of the others weren't paying out, but the ones I listed was hitting the free spins and bonus rounds often enough to keep me up near the amount of the bonus. Pigskin Payout netted a $1,500 payout on the bonus round, think I was wagering $7.50. I only started upping the bet to $37.50 when I was finally sufficiently burned out on playing and blew the amount off at that coinage in no time.
But had to say it was fun for using a free chip bonus with no expectations. The down side is now I am tired of the Rival games, so guess I won't be playing them for awhile. :o
 
i could withdraw 150.- from my free bonus, but i must make a 25.- deposit.

the question is, should i risk this?
Yes, I'm 100% sure they will pay (provided you are over 18 and haven't broken any T&Cs).
This is standard procedure, and I've never heard of any Rival casino not paying out on a free-chip.

KK
 
Yes, I'm 100% sure they will pay (provided you are over 18 and haven't broken any T&Cs).
Thanks for your info and i'm even 2 times 18 so this should not be any problem ;)

I've never broken any T&C because i never upped my bet size of 20 cent per spin, so they can't say, that i used any tactic or anything else. although i normally never play higher bets than 40 cent per spin, except on a higher bonus :)
 
I wonder if they would deny a payout if you were to take the $30, run it up high with a game like roulette (if possible) and then make the wager requirements with the allowed games.

For example...

Say the wager requirements are $5000 with the $30 and you can only take out $150. You run up your balance to $5150 and then play $5000 on slots to make the wagering requirement and try to pull out the $150. I'm thinking they would look at your history and deny you, but I have never tried.

Thoughts?
 
I wonder if they would deny a payout if you were to take the $30, run it up high with a game like roulette (if possible) and then make the wager requirements with the allowed games.

That doesn't work, because it's exactly written "Play at the following games, and any variants, does not count towards playthrough requirements and winnings may be considered null and void: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, Keno, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, ScratchCard, Slot Progressive."
 
That doesn't work, because it's exactly written "Play at the following games, and any variants, does not count towards playthrough requirements and winnings may be considered null and void: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, Keno, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, ScratchCard, Slot Progressive."

Right, but that's quite vague. If you built up your balance with roulette and then fulfilled the wagering requirements with a different game then you would technically fall within those restrictions. I suppose the second part "winnings may be considered null and void" could mean ANY winnings, including the winnings which took your balance up to the $5150 point (using my last example) but the word "may" still doesn't make this a black or white issue. I would think they would use a stronger statement such as "you cannot play roulette while on a no deposit bonus."

However, all this is left to the casino's interpretation and my thoughts are that I wouldn't risk the $25 to get the $150 if I were to use this strategy. Of course, you could contact support to get more clarity on this issue.
 

Hey Superman,

You dont have to try. Some Rivals will deny you all winnings if you played even one hand of disallowed games whereas others will give you the benefit of the doubt if you only played a couple of hands and void your winnings from these games only.

If you purposely play diallowed games first to run up your winnings to a healthy balance and then grind out WRs on slots I am pretty sure they will void all your winnings and rightfully so too as the bonus was not designed for this in the first place.
 
Hey Superman,

You dont have to try. Some Rivals will deny you all winnings if you played even one hand of disallowed games whereas others will give you the benefit of the doubt if you only played a couple of hands and void your winnings from these games only.

If you purposely play diallowed games first to run up your winnings to a healthy balance and then grind out WRs on slots I am pretty sure they will void all your winnings and rightfully so too as the bonus was not designed for this in the first place.

That makes sense and it's probably the answer to my question. As the others have mentioned, the no play bonuses are probably good for not much more than a different spin on free play mode. It might also be good for confirming that your "winning" strategy works as well on real money play as it does on free play (puts the conspiracy theories to rest.)
 
And final answer... they don't allow roulette on the no play bonus. When I tried they set the table max to $0.

So I went to play slots with the $30 bonus. First spin on $1 put me up to $110. Too bad I didn't bet the max I could on that one. ;)
 
Choice of Free Chips

Saw this casino ad on another site, so decided to check the chatter here B4 loading it up. Glad to know only one free chip can be claimed. Noticed that the Max Cashout is the same for both chips. And...no time limit on the $30 chip. That answers it for me...the $30 chip is my choice. Here I go!:lolup:
 


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