Tommy Robinson and Identity Politics

[Dinahnana]

Firstly I must admit I am quite new to the whole Identity Politics thing and frankly find the reasoning behind this quite inane. Recently I was traversing You Tube and found some riveting lectures from Jordan Peterson which led me to Sargon of Akad and then to Tommy Robinson.

First I have to say I have completely lost faith in mainstream media (I was quite doubtful of US media for years). All the media seems to be doing these days is labeling people as racists, bigots and anti whatever if they don't agree with the establishment.

I have watched many interviews from Tommy and seen many of his Rebel Media channel coverage of social topics and honestly to me he didn't come off as being what the press was labeling him to be. He seems to me to be a nice man a bit rough around the edges but honest and says what is on his mind which has to be a good thing right?

Freedom of speech is extremely important and I had no clue of how it is being curtailed in the UK. Sargon is awesome of being one of the voices of sanity in this new insane world we find ourselves in.
I can't put down in one post what is pissing me off because there are quite so many things with the far left with backing from the media are basically running smear campaigns and falsely labeling people who don't hold the same views.

I know Tommy broke the law in a technical sense but am honestly worried about his safety in jail since he was attacked previously in jail. The government has duty of care to ensure his safety in prison but I know in the back of my mind I am thinking that they just want him to go away and wouldn't care if anything happened to him.

I know that Tommy has a lot of support all over the world from people who don't believe the lies that media tells us to and hope to safely see him out of prison when he sentence is up.

I seriously believe that Identity politics are well underway to destroying western culture.
Don't get me started on the third wave feminists as they are now trying to ruin our entertainment with the likes of a feminist robot in Solo, really??? I am a woman and detest these creatures.

As an Irish person I was quite upset about Brexit and only worried about what it meant for my country I finally understand why the UK voted to leave the EU.

Incoherent rant over.

 

[ed skull murphy]

The european white race is being stealthily genocided, and we are not even allowed to discuss it, much less protest it.

Check out David Irving, he has been locked up as well, for the unforgivable crime of speaking the truth.

 

[dunover]

People like TR and Nick Griffin who upset the apple cart, the entente cordiale between the media and mainstream parties are always ridiculed, marginalized and reviled without reason and just cause. The ultra left pro-multiculturalist anti-white racists of the BBC even funded a court case by a dim-witted reported against Nick Griffin accusing him of the usual 'racism' when he accused muslims and South Asian immigrants of the systematic rape, abuse and paedophilia against white disadvantaged girls. This was back in 2002 and of course he was totally wrong wasn't he, there have never been any well-publicised cases of muslims being jailed for this type of offence, have there? The thing is, by knocking on doors and getting to hear about this from actual people the parties have forgotten, he exposed an inconvenient truth which the local councils, press and police buried their heads to, until it all came out. Needless to say a jury which wasn't influenced by the BBC, MP's and media saw the evidence and he was cleared. That didn't help the hundreds of victims who had their young lives destroyed by political correctness.

TR is simply stating over and over that islam is incompatible with western democracy, traditions and culture unless it changes, which it is too intransigent to do considering it's adherents re brainwashed from birth. It stays in the dark ages, while the rest of humanity moves on and thus the schism between 'them and us' gets wider all the time and this can only lead to one final, bloody conclusion eventually, probably when due to colossal birthrates it can control enough voting power and people to make a move for power and change to their beliefs. All TR is effectively saying is that he wants this NOT to happen by muslims liberalizing their cult and therefore integrating better to reduce the schism, and it's down to THEM to do this, not the indigenous population to change to accommodate them.

Our old pal Gaddafi even said this about Europeans, 'we don't need weapons to win a war, we'll do it through people' and of course cretins like Merkel listened hard to that....

What Osulle is seeing here is what I call 'lib-fascism'; the bullying, discrimination and antipathy encouraged against those with whom they haven't indoctrinated to their way of thinking. It's nothing new. It's all achieved, especially in young people, by carefully selected news stories, omission of 'inconvenient' news and ceaseless promotion of minority culture no matter how ridiculous it may seem to the rest of us. Have you noticed how nearly every young black kid shot or knifed to death by other blacks is always 'going to be an architect or scientist' (and is then pictured on YT with some gang crap, fingers in a pistol position etc...) The thing is with the internet it's harder and harder for the lib-fascists and mis-informers to hide any inconvenient facts now - ever wondered why Trump keeps referring to stuff on YT and the like? You can see the stuff the media would rather hide.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Our old pal Gaddafi even said this about Europeans, 'we don't need weapons to win a war, we'll do it through people' and of course cretins like Merkel listened hard to that....

Was this before or after his baby daughter was killed in a bombing raid on his palace.

The muslims are being screwed around as much as we are, if not more. It is actually the chosen ones who are orchestrating this global horror show.

 

[shadow123]

I hate what has happenned to my country, esp the glorification of black culture,every advert, every program,
it is being rammed down my throat.The BBC is the worst offender,I just dont watch it anymore,it would
be risking the health of my telly. I dont think I should carry on with this post I could rant all day.

 

[Dinahnana]

The european white race is being stealthily genocided, and we are not even allowed to discuss it, much less protest it.

Check out David Irving, he has been locked up as well, for the unforgivable crime of speaking the truth.

Prof Niall Fergusson calls the left useful idiots. This guy is a very smart historian who is married to Ayaan Hirsi Ali who has been speaking out about radical Islam for years. Very smart people.

 

[Dinahnana]

People like TR and Nick Griffin who upset the apple cart, the entente cordiale between the media and mainstream parties are always ridiculed, marginalized and reviled without reason and just cause. The ultra left pro-multiculturalist anti-white racists of the BBC even funded a court case by a dim-witted reported against Nick Griffin accusing him of the usual 'racism' when he accused muslims and South Asian immigrants of the systematic rape, abuse and paedophilia against white disadvantaged girls. This was back in 2002 and of course he was totally wrong wasn't he, there have never been any well-publicised cases of muslims being jailed for this type of offence, have there? The thing is, by knocking on doors and getting to hear about this from actual people the parties have forgotten, he exposed an inconvenient truth which the local councils, press and police buried their heads to, until it all came out. Needless to say a jury which wasn't influenced by the BBC, MP's and media saw the evidence and he was cleared. That didn't help the hundreds of victims who had their young lives destroyed by political correctness.

TR is simply stating over and over that islam is incompatible with western democracy, traditions and culture unless it changes, which it is too intransigent to do considering it's adherents re brainwashed from birth. It stays in the dark ages, while the rest of humanity moves on and thus the schism between 'them and us' gets wider all the time and this can only lead to one final, bloody conclusion eventually, probably when due to colossal birthrates it can control enough voting power and people to make a move for power and change to their beliefs. All TR is effectively saying is that he wants this NOT to happen by muslims liberalizing their cult and therefore integrating better to reduce the schism, and it's down to THEM to do this, not the indigenous population to change to accommodate them.

Our old pal Gaddafi even said this about Europeans, 'we don't need weapons to win a war, we'll do it through people' and of course cretins like Merkel listened hard to that....

What Osulle is seeing here is what I call 'lib-fascism'; the bullying, discrimination and antipathy encouraged against those with whom they haven't indoctrinated to their way of thinking. It's nothing new. It's all achieved, especially in young people, by carefully selected news stories, omission of 'inconvenient' news and ceaseless promotion of minority culture no matter how ridiculous it may seem to the rest of us. Have you noticed how nearly every young black kid shot or knifed to death by other blacks is always 'going to be an architect or scientist' (and is then pictured on YT with some gang crap, fingers in a pistol position etc...) The thing is with the internet it's harder and harder for the lib-fascists and mis-informers to hide any inconvenient facts now - ever wondered why Trump keeps referring to stuff on YT and the like? You can see the stuff the media would rather hide.

Well said Dunover.

 

[goatwack]

Ah yes funny you mention Solo, the film no one gives a crap about, because in it I hear they've turned Lando pansexual.

You know, not the hetero, lovable rogue that wanted to nob Leia. Now he doinks anything that moves.

It's really important we know that, it's the first thing I look out for when trying to escape the grind with dodgy news outlets, to enjoy some escapism and be informed what Lando sticks his shlong into

 

[Dinahnana]

I hate what has happenned to my country, esp the glorification of black culture,every advert, every program,
it is being rammed down my throat.The BBC is the worst offender,I just dont watch it anymore,it would
be risking the health of my telly. I dont think I should carry on with this post I could rant all day.

Just pray Labour in it's current state never gets power.

 

[ed skull murphy]

I hate what has happenned to my country, esp the glorification of black culture,every advert, every program,
it is being rammed down my throat.The BBC is the worst offender,I just dont watch it anymore,it would
be risking the health of my telly. I dont think I should carry on with this post I could rant all day.

Dump the telly, it is nothing but a propaganda machine for mass mind-control, ever since it's inception. Trust me, you'll feel much better for it.

 

[Dinahnana]

Dump the telly, it is nothing but a propaganda machine for mass mind-control, ever since it's inception. Trust me, you'll feel much better for it.

Totally agree, that is why I love You Tube since you get varied views like the Dave Ruben report who has actual interviews un-edited so things said cannot be taken out of context. There are very many people on You Tube who tell the truth I haven't been watching the news for years since those idiots never make any sense. You go to You Tube and you find a bunch of people all with different backgrounds and religious beliefs all saying the same thing. This really makes it clear to me how much western governments including my own and the media are fundementally out of touch with the people that they are supposed to represent.

 

[Simmo!]

If you read up on TR's past, he is not a nice person.

The problem here is he is playing right into the hands of IS and co. They need to drive a wedge between Western society and Muslims living here because it creates them the perfect breeding ground. Hate and resentment are exactly what they want to see. A lot of "racism" is nothing to do with colour or religion: it is actually more to do with not understanding or relating to the "culture" of ethnic minorities (and probably vice versa to some degree). The media and all these "pc" politicians and do-gooders play a big role in making things worse and they can't see that what they are doing is creating resentment and driving races, religion and communities apart. What we need is for them to be brought together, for people from all sides to tolerate and understand and be more inclusive, then perhaps the IS threat will dissipate. But it will never happen, partly because of people, partly because of religion.

 

[goatwack]

The real problem isn't just the cultural incompatibilities and religious resentment, but rather these idiotic far-left luvvies who fawn over being the most sincere, PC and virtue- signalling amongst their peers, and are about as far detached from reality as is possible.

Like that dickweed Gary Lineker, or even better, Lilly Allen

Alternative media and commentators are the only way to cut the BS these days

 

[Webzcas]

If you read up on TR's past, he is not a nice person.

That's putting it very politely Simmo!

Still at least he has some time in the big house to reflect on his outlook on life.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Totally agree, that is why I love You Tube since you get varied views like the Dave Ruben report who has actual interviews un-edited so things said cannot be taken out of context. There are very many people on You Tube who tell the truth I haven't been watching the news for years since those idiots never make any sense. You go to You Tube and you find a bunch of people all with different backgrounds and religious beliefs all saying the same thing.

Oh my God, this is so true!

This really makes it clear to me how much western governments including my own and the media are fundementally out of touch with the people that they are supposed to represent

But this is how the establishment operates, they take your money (in taxation, licence fees, etc) and use it against you. The only way to beat them is to turn your back on them completely, just cut them out of your life. Don't give them your money, or energy, or time, disentangle yourself from their web of deceit, just live a happy life.

If you read up on TR's past, he is not a nice person.

The problem here is he is playing right into the hands of IS and co. They need to drive a wedge between Western society and Muslims living here because it creates them the perfect breeding ground. Hate and resentment are exactly what they want to see. A lot of "racism" is nothing to do with colour or religion: it is actually more to do with not understanding or relating to the "culture" of ethnic minorities (and probably vice versa to some degree). The media and all these "pc" politicians and do-gooders play a big role in making things worse and they can't see that what they are doing is creating resentment and driving races, religion and communities apart. What we need is for them to be brought together, for people from all sides to tolerate and understand and be more inclusive, then perhaps the IS threat will dissipate. But it will never happen, partly because of people, partly because of religion.

Order out of Chaos.

IS/Isis/Al Quaeda are all inventions of the western establishment. It is a freemasonic thing, you must have duality to bring about change, so they invent a 'boogie man' to scare the shit out of the gullible westerners, in order to use their tax money and military might to round up the last remaining 'rogue nations', the nations who are trying to remain independent of the 'New World Order' global governance scenario and prefer to do their own thing.

In the meantime, the suddenly displaced and disenchanted youth of the former 'rogue nations' are invited to the west, as refugees, to create more chaos here. It is all damn clever stuff!

 

[adamjames]

If you read up on TR's past, he is not a nice person.

The problem here is he is playing right into the hands of IS and co. They need to drive a wedge between Western society and Muslims living here because it creates them the perfect breeding ground. Hate and resentment are exactly what they want to see. A lot of "racism" is nothing to do with colour or religion: it is actually more to do with not understanding or relating to the "culture" of ethnic minorities (and probably vice versa to some degree). The media and all these "pc" politicians and do-gooders play a big role in making things worse and they can't see that what they are doing is creating resentment and driving races, religion and communities apart. What we need is for them to be brought together, for people from all sides to tolerate and understand and be more inclusive, then perhaps the IS threat will dissipate. But it will never happen, partly because of people, partly because of religion.

Tommy Robinson openly admits he never use to be the nicest of people to be fair.

 

[colinsunderland]

I have watched many interviews from Tommy and seen many of his Rebel Media channel coverage of social topics and honestly to me he didn't come off as being what the press was labeling him to be. He seems to me to be a nice man a bit rough around the edges but honest and says what is on his mind which has to be a good thing right?

You are kidding right? Honest? With multiple convictions including assault, fraud, contempt of court, the list goes on. Nice man, open racist who attacks police officers. Yep, stand up guy isn't he.

I know Tommy broke the law in a technical sense but am honestly worried about his safety in jail since he was attacked previously in jail. The government has duty of care to ensure his safety in prison but I know in the back of my mind I am thinking that they just want him to go away and wouldn't care if anything happened to him.

He didn't break the law in a technical sense at all. He knowingly broke the law, don't forget, he also plead guilty. He's a racist thug who is good at getting people to believe what he says. There were good reasons for the reporting restrictions that were in place, and his actions could have resulted in pedophiles walking free from court. The Rochdale grooming case was almost lost because of actions like this.

When was the last time you saw him standing outside a court hassling white pedophiles? Look up the videos he made about his pedophile mates, Leigh McMillan (EDL) or Richard Price (co-founder of the EDL) (

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), oh thats right, there isn't any of them.

He also didn't get 13 months for breaking the reporting restrictions. By doing so he activated a suspended sentence. He knew fine well that would happen, he even says it himself in the video when he is being arrested.

I'll just pop this here

 

[adamjames]

You are kidding right? Honest? With multiple convictions including assault, fraud, contempt of court, the list goes on. Nice man, open racist who attacks police officers. Yep, stand up guy isn't



He didn't break the law in a technical sense at all. He knowingly broke the law, don't forget, he also plead guilty. He's a racist thug who is good at getting people to believe what he says. There were good reasons for the reporting restrictions that were in place, and his actions could have resulted in pedophiles walking free from court. The Rochdale grooming case was almost lost because of actions like this.

When was the last time you saw him standing outside a court hassling white pedophiles? Look up the videos he made about his pedophile mates, Leigh McMillan (EDL) or Richard Price (co-founder of the EDL) (

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), oh thats right, there isn't any of them.

He also didn't get 13 months for breaking the reporting restrictions. By doing so he activated a suspended sentence. He knew fine well that would happen, he even says it himself in the video when he is being arrested.

I'll just pop this here

Oh well if a random bloke called Guy Matthews speaks then thats us told !!

 

[colinsunderland]

Oh well if a random bloke called Guy Matthews speaks then thats us told !!

Feel free to say whats wrong with what he said

 

[ed skull murphy]

He is just another part of the chaos, then Col?

 

[dunover]

You are kidding right? Honest? With multiple convictions including assault, fraud, contempt of court, the list goes on. Nice man, open racist who attacks police officers. Yep, stand up guy isn't he.



He didn't break the law in a technical sense at all. He knowingly broke the law, don't forget, he also plead guilty. He's a racist thug who is good at getting people to believe what he says. There were good reasons for the reporting restrictions that were in place, and his actions could have resulted in pedophiles walking free from court. The Rochdale grooming case was almost lost because of actions like this.

When was the last time you saw him standing outside a court hassling white pedophiles? Look up the videos he made about his pedophile mates, Leigh McMillan (EDL) or Richard Price (co-founder of the EDL) (

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), oh thats right, there isn't any of them.

He also didn't get 13 months for breaking the reporting restrictions. By doing so he activated a suspended sentence. He knew fine well that would happen, he even says it himself in the video when he is being arrested.

I'll just pop this here

 

[dunover]

Mortgage fraud, false passport, ABH, drugs and contempt for court? When did he convert to islam?

 

[colinsunderland]

Mortgage fraud, false passport, ABH, drugs and contempt for court? When did he convert to islam?

EDIT :Actually edited that as might be too much for the thread.

Seriously though, I honestly don't know how anyone can think what he does is good. He has a defense fund going (or did) AFTER he plead guilty and used a duty solicitor (FREE). So whats that being used for!

 

[goatwack]

I don't know much about Tommy Robinson's past, perhaps I ought to read up on it, yet in the few choice snippets I've seen on Youtube et al he's seemingly been on a one-man crusade to speak out and say things that perhaps too many have been cuckolded into not saying for fear of being labelled racist, Islamaphopic etc

He may be a touch over-zealous on some topics but calling out Muslim grooming gangs, or fighting the corner of women who've been victims of rape by said group and rally support to get these people to justice, as was with the Justice for Chelsey campaign.

So he may/ may not be a complete dick but at least I see someone putting themselves out there trying to get things done, when the police and politicians have been too busy absolving themselves of their responsibilities to care for these vulnerable girls. And to point out the rapidly- changing demographic of an area instead of meekly watching on is not racist either, merely stating facts, something that's become a dirty word in itself these days.

Nor do we know the circumstances of his kangaroo trial where he was bundled off in record time, so we can speculate until the cows come home. I do think he was foolish to not only film in and around the trial, but to put himself in that predicament to begin with. We'll know soon enough- he'll be out in 13 months, maybe 10 with good behaviour

 

[shadow123]

He is what you get when you suppress free speech

 

[colinsunderland]

I don't know much about Tommy Robinson's past, perhaps I ought to read up on it, yet in the few choice snippets I've seen on Youtube et al he's seemingly been on a one-man crusade to speak out and say things that perhaps too many have been cuckolded into not saying for fear of being labelled racist, Islamaphopic etc

He may be a touch over-zealous on some topics but calling out Muslim grooming gangs, or fighting the corner of women who've been victims of rape by said group and rally support to get these people to justice, as was with the Justice for Chelsey campaign.

So he may/ may not be a complete dick but at least I see someone putting themselves out there trying to get things done, when the police and politicians have been too busy absolving themselves of their responsibilities to care for these vulnerable girls. And to point out the rapidly- changing demographic of an area instead of meekly watching on is not racist either, merely stating facts, something that's become a dirty word in itself these days.

Nor do we know the circumstances of his kangaroo trial where he was bundled off in record time, so we can speculate until the cows come home. I do think he was foolish to not only film in and around the trial, but to put himself in that predicament to begin with. We'll know soon enough- he'll be out in 13 months, maybe 10 with good behaviour

Just to be pedantic there was no trial, he plead guilty.
The 'trial' went
Charge read out, how do you plead, guilty, breach of suspended sentence activated, off to jail.
The second he plead guilty the court had to start the suspended sentence. It is extremely rare that wouldn't happen.
This is a transcript from his previous trial, does anyone really believe he didn't know what was likely to happen when he was doing what he was doing?

As for the Justice for Chelsey thing, don't believe everything you read in the media.

 

[goatwack]

Just to be pedantic there was no trial, he plead guilty.
The 'trial' went
Charge read out, how do you plead, guilty, breach of suspended sentence activated, off to jail.
The second he plead guilty the court had to start the suspended sentence. It is extremely rare that wouldn't happen.
This is a transcript from his previous trial, does anyone really believe he didn't know what was likely to happen when he was doing what he was doing?

As for the Justice for Chelsey thing, don't believe everything you read in the media.

That's the thing, where is one supposed to get an accurate depiction of his character if most news sources are tainted/ skewed with bias?

I suspect anything other than "Guilty" would have looked silly indeed, as he was caught bang to rights, with that suspended sentence hanging over him. I think he acted foolishly and can't really have too many complaints on that front, so I completely agree.

The Chelsey case I can neither verify nor disprove.....I'd like to think it's genuine, if not, then it's a very cackhanded smear campaign and worthy of contempt

 

[ed skull murphy]

Prof Niall Fergusson calls the left useful idiots. This guy is a very smart historian who is married to Ayaan Hirsi Ali who has been speaking out about radical Islam for years. Very smart people.

I have just remembered where I saw that name before, she was a politician in Holland, way back when. I would be a bit wary of these two, Osulle, i think they might be on the payroll, so to speak.

 

[colinsunderland]

That's the thing, where is one supposed to get an accurate depiction of his character if most news sources are tainted/ skewed with bias?

I suspect anything other than "Guilty" would have looked silly indeed, as he was caught bang to rights, with that suspended sentence hanging over him. I think he acted foolishly and can't really have too many complaints on that front, so I completely agree.

The Chelsey case I can neither verify nor disprove.....I'd like to think it's genuine, if not, then it's a very cackhanded smear campaign and worthy of contempt

His criminal record is fact, and as I said earlier, wheres his videos of his nonce friends up at court, or any white person?
Reporting is regularly banned on cases with multiple defendants spread over multiple trials for good reason. Doesn't matter what colour the accused is, fact is reporting restrictions are imposed for a reason. Break them and expect to end up in court for contempt. Be lucky and get a suspended sentence for it then don't cry if you do it again and end up in jail.

The Chelsey stuff, stuff thats in the public domain, for example, TR was at one point banging on about the lack of media attention (bit like he does quite often), blaming the fact non English were involved and saying it was being covered up. Bullshit, it was because the victim had expressly told the media she did not want it covered in the press. There was also CCTV showing the victims story wasn't as it was told to them. I don't actually think any of that was down to TR though I think he was lied to too.

 

[goatwack]

Shadow governments, subterfuge, population control, mind control, the cabal etc

All frightening, terrifying.

So how much do they pay and where do I apply?

 

[Supababe]

YouTube will destroy down the world!

From it teaching my 2 year old songs about eating sugar and telling lies (yes within a child safe app!!!) to it being the unsupervised playground of extremists, conspiracy theorists, bare faced liars and such other underworld creatures.

The good and honest (also the naive and stupid) are easily swayed by a video or two which gives them a biased opinion, ungrounded in fact, where they can bleat along behind the wolf in sheeps clothing.

No offence intended, just sick of my Facebook stream being full of people daft enough to believe everything they see.
Even my mum was amazed that you could grow rainbow striped bananas by following the instructions in the video (which included planting it to make it grow)....

A lesson, I plead, that you teach your children:
question, question and question everything you see or read on the internet. Check your sources and find further proof x

 

[ed skull murphy]

Shadow governments, subterfuge, population control, mind control, the cabal etc

All frightening, terrifying.

So how much do they pay and where do I apply?

So you are prepared to sell your soul in order to feed a slot machine?

You might as well, we're all fcuked anyway!

 

[goatwack]

So you are prepared to sell your soul in order to feed a slot machine?

You might as well, we're all fcuked anyway!

You assume I have one, but as mentioned prior in another thread, I traded it in for a G O L D +5 +5 already, unfortunately.

It seems to have worked, worryingly enough, as I had a stonking Bonanza bonus earlier for £220, my quickest ever hit & run withdrawal!

 

[ed skull murphy]

YouTube will destroy down the world!

From it teaching my 2 year old songs about eating sugar and telling lies (yes within a child safe app!!!) to it being the unsupervised playground of extremists, conspiracy theorists, bare faced liars and such other underworld creatures.

The good and honest (also the naive and stupid) are easily swayed by a video or two which gives them a biased opinion, ungrounded in fact, where they can bleat along behind the wolf in sheeps clothing.

No offence intended, just sick of my Facebook stream being full of people daft enough to believe everything they see.
Even my mum was amazed that you could grow rainbow striped bananas by following the instructions in the video (which included planting it to make it grow)....

A lesson, I plead, that you teach your children:
question, question and question everything you see or read on the internet. Check your sources and find further proof x

You can say the same about the television, or the school curriculum.

The only way is to teach a child to think for his or herself and to not be led astray.

 

[goatwack]

Are people trying to say Pewdipie and Markiplier aren't humanity's salvation??

Colour me royally p*ssed off

 

[Supababe]

The only way is to teach a child to think for his or herself and to not be led astray.

Kinda what I was trying to say in the last paragraph......

 

[mack341]

You assume I have one, but as mentioned prior in another thread, I traded it in for a G O L D +5 +5 already, unfortunately.

It seems to have worked, worryingly enough, as I had a stonking Bonanza bonus earlier for £220, my quickest ever hit & run withdrawal!

Mr Goatwack, may I enquire what stake you played bonanza at for this win?

 

[goatwack]

In fairness, today's kids are basically.....'stumped' anyway, just look around. Can't think for themselves, can't do anything for themselves, bad attitude etc

And that's just their good points badum tish

But what do you expect, they're unable to function without their smartphones, gadgets, and in truth it's not wholly their fault. It's the generations previous that have enabled them to have access to these things, too soon. Take away these kids' toys for a week and there'd be anarchy

 

[goatwack]

Mr Goatwack, may I enquire what stake you played bonanza at for this win?

The usually accursed LeoVegas, for 40p

 

[ed skull murphy]

If I were to raise a family, not that that is likely to happen, but it would have to be way out in a rural environment, with a homeschooling community and a more natural lifestyle.

 

[geordiecolin]

If I post an "F" here in this thread like folk do in Facebook will I get endless updates on this discussion or will I have to add my two penneth worth to garner that luxury?
Can this thread be opened to a wider discussion about suppression of discussion and the encouragement/suppression of original and independent thoughts?

 

[mack341]

The usually accursed LeoVegas, for 40p

wow, what a hit!! I thought I read that you were a loyal member of the low rolling brigade, but when you said £220 I thought you must have had a dalliance with the high roller brigade [£1 upwards in my book]. I shall give 40p another go and see if I can get this lucky.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Can this thread be opened to a wider discussion about suppression of discussion and the encouragement/suppression of original and independent thoughts?

Absolutely not!

I thought that was precisely the main theme of the thread, I can't speak for the OP, but that was the feeling I got from Osulles first post.

 

[geordiecolin]

Absolutely not!

I thought that was precisely the main theme of the thread, I can't speak for the OP, but that was the feeling I got from Osulles first post.

You may think that but I could not possibly comment.
Mainly because I think/hope that I have two days free from work and slots are calling me at this time of night

 

[Mouche12]

The european white race is being stealthily genocided, and we are not even allowed to discuss it, much less protest it.

Check out David Irving, he has been locked up as well, for the unforgivable crime of speaking the truth.

David Irving speaking the truth??? He denied the Holocaust and was jailed in Austria, utter piece of filth. This is quite disconcerting, are you implying that the Holocaust never took place?

 

[ed skull murphy]

David Irving speaking the truth??? He denied the Holocaust and was jailed in Austria, utter piece of filth. This is quite disconcerting, are you implying that the Holocaust never took place?

David Irving has never denied the holocaust, Mouche, that is the propaganda that is bandied around to smear him. To drive people away from his work.

You have clearly not read his books nor listened to his lectures; he is a research historian who has read millions of documents from government archives from all over the world.

He was jailed in Austria for lecturing on a version of WWII that differed from the official one, a version based on documentary research rather than wartime propaganda.

 

[adamjames]

Feel free to say whats wrong with what he said

Try researching the farce of those mortgage fraud charges and the story behind it..great interview on you Tube by an american journalist who came over to interview him...took her 3 days in detention before she could actually do the interview. Locked up because she wanted to interview him...makes you wonder what the establishment are so worried about!!!

 

[Borgie]

David Irving has never denied the holocaust, Mouche, that is the propaganda that is bandied around to smear him. To drive people away from his work.

You have clearly not read his books nor listened to his lectures; he is a research historian who has read millions of documents from government archives from all over the world.

He was jailed in Austria for lecturing on a version of WWII that differed from the official one, a version based on documentary research rather than wartime propaganda.

So everything in Wikipedia is a lie about this person. All the other articles things I can find about this man say he denies the holocaust. He was accused by a judge of deliberately misrepresenting historical evidence and being a racist. I can't even find words to describe someone who wants to pretend all that suffering didn't happen. I find it beyond insulting tbh.

 

[ed skull murphy]

So everything in Wikipedia is a lie about this person. All the other articles things I can find about this man say he denies the holocaust. He was accused by a judge of deliberately misrepresenting historical evidence and being a racist. I can't even find words to describe someone who wants to pretend all that suffering didn't happen. I find it beyond insulting tbh.

Wikipedia lies about most things of a political nature.

I am not going to be drawn into a debate about this. His work is readily available, let people make their own minds up.

 

[Borgie]

Wikipedia lies about most things of a political nature.

I am not going to be drawn into a debate about this. His work is readily available, let people make their own minds up.

I have indeed made up my mind thanks