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Truelab: Severely Abnormal RTP: TrueLab Slot Appears Rigged

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Hi everyone, this is not just a rant but please be aware of Truelab slots, I have never ever seen such a wierd outcome for decades of online slotting.

I feel like TrueLab’s slot is completely rigged. I’ve spent over $15,000 on bonus buys, betting between $1–$2, mostly on super bonus buys, and I have not seen a single win above 5–6X. I’ve bought nearly 60 super bonuses, and not one of them paid more than 5–7X, despite each one costing 300X.


The probability of this happening is extremely low, and it feels unfair, manipulated, and frankly rigged. No slot with published RTP and volatility should perform this poorly over such a large sample size.


I would like a serious explanation as to how this is possible.
 
I don't know the max wins of the games you are playing but it sounds like the super bonus buys are quite volatile and you've only done 60 '"spins". It's kinda like putting money on one number in roulette but in the case of the slot you can make varying amounts back not just the max win, although that's where a big chunk of the weighting is for those bonuses.

Truelab, popiplay and bgaming are, to my knowledge, subsidiaries of SoftSwiss so if expect everything to be above board, not to mention the countless test house verifications. They do have variable RTP so that might be causing even worse results if you have a low one.
 

Sorry, but on what planet do you think 60 bonus buys is “such a large sample size” that really is not even close to a large sample size.

If that is you making a serious comment then you really do not understand how slots or bonus buys work!

What are you basing “the probability of this happening is extremely low” on? Do you have access to the game [par] sheets for this game?

If you want better answers to explain fully maybe you should give us a bit more info?

I mean it is pretty common for super bonus buys in a vast majority of cases to either be a significant loss, minor loss or struggle to exceed 10x that’s just the nature of such games.
 
It really dosent matter, there is not one single provider that would give 5X avrage on 300X buy in bonus, trying 60 times in row. Even no-limit city with the highest votality would produce at least one with the buy in back I would say after 4-5 times. the slot im talking about has max win of 10K X and with he purchases I made 18,000X buy in. there is no way that its not rigged.
 
In CM’s recent bonus buy comp, I played several thousand bonus buys over several providers and many games were more than capable of giving some shocking results.

One “print” game had a 500x buy that I won less than 5x ( eg one was 0.1% of the buy cost! And was less than 1% several times and only had one exceed the buy and that was still less than 3x which was the best out of about 2 dozen.

I still maintain you are grossly underestimating the volatility of these games, rather than they are rigged beyond doubt as you seem to be implying.
 
Hi, this is a very emotional message. Here is what you would need to do if you want to claim that the probability of such an event is very low.
  1. Open the demo version of the game.
  2. Buy one million of the same bonuses.
  3. Calculate the probability of a win above 7x.
  4. Then calculate the probability of never seeing a win above 7x in 60 attempts.
  5. Look at that number and draw a conclusion.
Please write the name of the slot you played and which bonus you were buying. If possible, attach proof. You can request your bet history from the casino. Maybe one day I will check it.

By the way, the probability of 10 reds in a row or three zeros in a row is also low, but I am sure many people have seen those events and even less likely ones.
 
I don't know the max wins of the games you are playing but it sounds like the super bonus buys are quite volatile and you've only done 60 '"spins". It's kinda like putting money on one number in roulette
In reality these bonus buys are not volatile at all, and compared to roulette they are basically the equivalent of betting on red or black. They only feel volatile because you are staking 300 times more money. If you compare it properly, a €300 bet on red is far more volatile than a €1 bet on green.

I cannot speak for every expensive super bonus buy out there, but the pattern is pretty clear. If he really bought 60 bonuses at 300x and the best result he ever saw was 7x, then it is either suspicious, or he is exaggerating, or the slot turned out to be much more volatile than expected and you were right after all.
 


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