UK Govt forces Apple to pull data protection tool

[Webzcas]

Another reason as to why not to rely on the 'cloud' to secure your own personal data. What next, will they force Meta to remove the encryption from WhatsApp?

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[Webzcas]

I personally hate the cloud, I am in the same camp as @The Dude when it comes to 'cloud' storage. Using someone else's computer to store my photos, videos, documents etc does not appeal to me. Hence I have been using a NAS or prior to that a Dell Poweredge Server since 2006.

Currently I am using a Synology DS220j populated with two Toshiba 4TB drives. It is different class TBH and Synology are leaders in the field when it comes to NAS solutions.

 

[mulven]

I personally hate the cloud, I am in the same camp as @The Dude when it comes to 'cloud' storage. Using someone else's computer to store my photos, videos, documents etc does not appeal to me. Hence I have been using a NAS or prior to that a Dell Poweredge Server since 2006.

Currently I am using a Synology DS220j populated with two Toshiba 4TB drives. It is different class TBH and Synology are leaders in the field when it comes to NAS solutions.

Same reason my security cameras save to my own hard drives in the unifi dream machine I have.

 

[satchnz]

I personally hate the cloud, I am in the same camp as @The Dude when it comes to 'cloud' storage. Using someone else's computer to store my photos, videos, documents etc does not appeal to me. Hence I have been using a NAS or prior to that a Dell Poweredge Server since 2006.

Currently I am using a Synology DS220j populated with two Toshiba 4TB drives. It is different class TBH and Synology are leaders in the field when it comes to NAS solutions.

I use the cloud for photos, iDevice backups, and iCloud Keychain. My local NAS stores everything else. The UK government needs to back off FFS.

 

[Webzcas]

Same reason my security cameras save to my own hard drives in the unifi dream machine I have.

Ah that is where we differ. My security cameras backup to the cloud. In the unlikely event someone manages to break in and gets past the Guard John ( Yes, I have a dog that is a bitch, that I call John who has been taught to 'guard' ) and steals the NAS. I will still have video of said people breaking in.

 

[mack341]

I suppose AI programs will sift through people's personal files, photos etc..on the cloud systems, and then anything potentially suspicious is flagged up to an actual human to investigate further?

It's amazing what all this technology can do, I'm sure my parent's laptop has got some sort of listening device because things mentioned only in conversation then pop up as adverts (for related items) on the msn home page. I know I have not used the laptop to search for them, it's eery when you see it.

 

[Guntis]

I suppose AI programs will sift through people's personal files, photos etc..on the cloud systems, and then anything potentially suspicious is flagged up to an actual human to investigate further?

It's amazing what all this technology can do, I'm sure my parent's laptop has got some sort of listening device because things mentioned only in conversation then pop up as adverts (for related items) on the msn home page. I know I have not used the laptop to search for them, it's eery when you see it.

It should help if they toggle off the microphone access so whoever listens does not hear anything. It's hard to say what else they could use and where it's placed, added, or included. If they use any apps that need the mic enabled, then they'll see a notification to turn it on when using.

 

[satchnz]

I suppose AI programs will sift through people's personal files, photos etc..on the cloud systems, and then anything potentially suspicious is flagged up to an actual human to investigate further?

It's amazing what all this technology can do, I'm sure my parent's laptop has got some sort of listening device because things mentioned only in conversation then pop up as adverts (for related items) on the msn home page. I know I have not used the laptop to search for them, it's eery when you see it.

The amount of times I mention something in a room I have an Amazon Echo device (or my mobile phone for that matter), and shortly after there are videos on my recommended feed in YT about what I mentioned is quite scary.

 

[Guntis]

Their goal is to show us the most relevant ads so they can make more money. For example, if their devices hear things like - Do you remember when we bought this fridge? Yeah - in 1999... - they'll highly likely show us ads with fridges and related attributes.

It seems odd but essentially it isn't bad because they give us what potentially we want. If we disable their listening features, we will still see ads but less relevant ones, which means things that we don't want.

Personally, i keep all disabled. I just don't like it all, plus i never buy anything through ads. Even if an ad interests me i would still go to look for what people say, compare with similar items, and buy it from original source.

 

[goatwack]

I'm just surprised that people would think that companies' supposed data protection tools are sacrosanct and somehow not prone to scrutiny and interference.

It's no secret that we leave fragments of our personal lives peppered all over the place, it's human nature and mostly unavoidable.

Yet the conscious choice to store essentially highly personal data in the digital abyss is asking for trouble, let alone things that appertain to home security and so forth. People assume their data is floating away behind some digital fluffy cloud, only to then realize that these 'safe' sanctums mean diddly-squat when all's said and done!

With a million different ways of storing one's data, cloud servers have to rank among the most fraught, in an age where one's personal data is considered paramount. And yet, it's being entrusted with who exactly?

Still, security concerns aside, when not bent over a barrel, the only other reason anyone would perchance want one's details is of course to monetize the hell out of them, and if by some chance anyone believes their cloud data is protected from that, then, well, good for you I guess. The likes of Apple & co aren't really about that I hear, so rest assured!

And as for government overreach and surveillance, fret not either, because it's not like people willingly put their personal info out there....oh

....wait

 

[dunover]

I'm just surprised that people would think that companies' supposed data protection tools are sacrosanct and somehow not prone to scrutiny and interference.

It's no secret that we leave fragments of our personal lives peppered all over the place, it's human nature and mostly unavoidable.

Yet the conscious choice to store essentially highly personal data in the digital abyss is asking for trouble, let alone things that appertain to home security and so forth. People assume their data is floating away behind some digital fluffy cloud, only to then realize that these 'safe' sanctums mean diddly-squat when all's said and done!

With a million different ways of storing one's data, cloud servers have to rank among the most fraught, in an age where one's personal data is considered paramount. And yet, it's being entrusted with who exactly?

Still, security concerns aside, when not bent over a barrel, the only other reason anyone would perchance want one's details is of course to monetize the hell out of them, and if by some chance anyone believes their cloud data is protected from that, then, well, good for you I guess. The likes of Apple & co aren't really about that I hear, so rest assured!

And as for government overreach and surveillance, fret not either, because it's not like people willingly put their personal info out there....oh

....wait

One day they'll even bring in entrusting highly sensitive personal information and documents to online casinos!

 

[Webzcas]

Update on this, after pressure from the US Govt and JD Vance in particular the Labour Govt have rowed back on this now. Which IMO is a very good thing. Now for the online safety bill...