Uk Slotting Cap from September 2024

[greylady]

Looks like the UKGC is implementing a max stake on slotting from September 2024!

'Remote-licensed operators will have a 6-month period to implement a maximum £2 stake limit on online slot games for customers aged 18-to-24.

A further £5 stake limit will be applied to adults aged over 25, as the government introduces protections for online slot games matching customer restrictions applied in land-based gambling venues.'

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[slot_zombie]

The Curacao exodus continues...

 

[goatwack]

Nothing 'landmark' or 'player protection' about it from what I can see upon first glance, though it's surprising to see them attempting to align online with land-based.

Doesn't strike me as particularly progressive though or well thought-out, just more prohibitiveness and rump-slapping in the locker rooms from the powers-that-be ?

How does 25 onwards make someone able to gamble £5 per spin as opposed to £2? And isn't that leap likely to cause more detriment than help? Is my missus seeing the milkman? All questions we'll never have the answers to!

 

[dunover]

That's fucked my Bonanza strategy up.

Everyone knows that on your 25th. birthday all employers raise your wages 150% so you can afford £5 spins.

We'll have a new celebration now - never mind valentine, xmas, wedding, birthday cards etc. there'll be a 'Happy £5 spins' card on Moonpig available soon to send people who've reached that privileged status in life.

 

[SlotsBlogger]

Oh, that's annoying. So are casinos doing a blanket update on their games or go provider by provider? The reason I ask is that I play a lot of collection games (Kingmaker, Lil Devil, Royal Mint) and the like. I've a few in progress on higher stakes. Will the progress get wiped? Or will the Casino kindly inform their players of the upcoming changes so games like this can be finished. I mean do Casinos even know anything about their game libraries? If it wasn't for forums like this, would the player even know? Would there be any recourse if you had say 30 hearts collected on Lil Devil only to visit the game and find the stake you were playing on suddenly gone? Perhaps @L&L-Jan could provide some insight?

 

[DreddBeat]

Online casinos will be happy. Low stakes mean losing more over time.

 

[megadam]

Fucking hell. What a sad sad state of affairs. All in the name of player protection but it's just going to push more and more consumers to crypto casinos. If they wanted to afford protection, how about stopping the cavalier attitude and behavior of the slot studios pumping out extreme volatility slot one after the other that can eat your money in no time at all. All in the vain hope that'll you get a bonus which with the state of some of these providers won't be a bonus that can actually pay as that's locked behind a debug menu (Wink Wink Pragmatic Wink Wink)

What a derisory nanny state the UK has turned into that these levels of control are now being applied to the average citizen. What next, being at the self-checkout till at Asda and being stopped because I've scanned too many cakes at the till? Too many beers? (As daft as that sounds, wouldn't surprise me if that gets limited next under the monkier of preventing obesity and reducing the NHS waiting list)

 

[slot_zombie]

Is my missus seeing the milkman? All questions we'll never have the answers to!

Spoiler: she is.

 

[justdoit]

is UKGC still making rules? no one left on UK casino ? even my auto clicker complaint when I click on UK Casino

 

[goatwack]

The usual sound bites are always trotted out, whether that be for 'consumer' or 'player' protection when changes are afoot, or 'protecting' something for the greater good. And who wants to be labelled selfish, after all?

Adult pastimes like vaping are soon to be neutered too, so this isn't beholden to one sector, with all flavourings bar tobacco and menthol to be outlawed, based on flimsy reasoning and obvious agendas spearheaded by tobacco lobbyists....

When drastic changes are made like this without rhyme or reason, you can be sure nine times out of ten it's for reasons other than disclosed to the masses, and usually self-serving

 

[KasinoKing]

They are also talking about limiting adult sex sessions to 20 minutes...
But just like the £5 max bet - that one won't affect me either!

KK

 

[satchnz]

If they wanted to afford protection, how about stopping the cavalier attitude and behavior of the slot studios pumping out extreme volatility slot one after the other that can eat your money in no time at all. All in the vain hope that'll you get a bonus which with the state of some of these providers won't be a bonus that can actually pay as that's locked behind a debug menu (Wink Wink Pragmatic Wink Wink)

Unfortunately this would need to be a coordinated effort across all jurisdictions so it won’t happen for a while, if at all. In the meantime the likes of Pragmatic will continue with their piss take strategy of hiding super bonuses behind bonus buys, and NoLimit City with their irresponsible max-win-or-nothing dice roll bonus buys.

 

[Jono777]

I remember reading in my early - mid CM days that playing online slots was best referred to as "Buying Fun"

Back then, I sort of more or less agreed, knowing I could afford to lose my £20 'investment' but at the same time knowing I'd 7/10 get at least a couple of hours play so was indeed buying fun, also I did stand a fair chance of actually winning something (which was a bonus, not something I expected to do!)

Fast forward to present day and there is no way on this planet they can use this description without describing exactly the opposite.

Remortgaging or doing a serious dent in your savings for problem gamblers seems to be the new business strategy for these greedy "Super Bonus" providers.

About 5% or less of the players world wide can afford to even attempt these ridiculous costly buys which rarely deliver, where realistically ALL players should have a chance no matter how miniscule of getting these massive hits once in a blue moon.

A £2/£5 cap IMO won't do much as it won't affect low rollers who make up the majority of the player pool, crypto and Curaco will thrive and casinos will suffer and pass on this suffering with yet more cut backs and RTP hacks.

The industry is on its arse when it comes to satisfaction and reputation but the money is rolling in for the casinos so who cares

 

[Reelsoffun]

Oh, that's annoying. So are casinos doing a blanket update on their games or go provider by provider? The reason I ask is that I play a lot of collection games (Kingmaker, Lil Devil, Royal Mint) and the like. I've a few in progress on higher stakes. Will the progress get wiped? Or will the Casino kindly inform their players of the upcoming changes so games like this can be finished. I mean do Casinos even know anything about their game libraries? If it wasn't for forums like this, would the player even know? Would there be any recourse if you had say 30 hearts collected on Lil Devil only to visit the game and find the stake you were playing on suddenly gone? Perhaps @L&L-Jan could provide some insight?

From my experience of this, yes they will just be wiped out with absolutely no compensation ( the reason these games should have been banned more than bonus buys ) like when they update a game as that can also wipe any progress, so I would play them out asap if I were you and don’t start any others.

I don’t start any more now as it’s too stacked against the player in so many ways, even a stuck game round often zeros all progress, I wish everyone would not play them and then they just wouldn’t produce any more and we would all benefit from that!

 

[dunover]

Mind you, we live in a country where my daughter at uni is asked for ID to buy a can of energy drink.

The only slotting 'cap' we had in the UK before now is the foil one we wear when playing the bastard things.

I can foretell the beefs coming - "Look at the amount of big wins/features I'm getting on two quid, never had that when I was playing a tenner...."

 

[Valhalla]

Well, it’s high time I used my VPN and went the crypto route.

Even tho I don’t play £5 spins, this endless list of restrictions creeping in is just going to get worse until online gaming completely collapses for the UK market. I’m jumping ship before it goes down.

 

[Smithyy]

Long gone are the days when the UKGC was respected and set the benchmarks for dealing with iGaming regulation.

I understand the premise behind the new rules, but unless they are going to go after all the Curacao sites readily accepting UK players (I'm looking at you BCGAME, who, as a test, VERIFIED my account with my UK Driving License) - this is going to cause long-term mayhem IMO.

We've already seen tons and tons of players moving away from regulated casinos to play at crypto sites in Curacao (myself included, admitadley), but as popular streamers (Bandit, RockRollla) Craig Slots, and so on) are bringing crypto to a wider audience - I fear this is going to further push players into the abysss.

And, personally - I don't BLAME these players. IT's the exact reason I started playing at Crypto sites in Curacao. For five years, not once have I been denied a withdrawal. Some, even after finding out I used to play from the UK, even paid out my winnings but closed my account. So, the service they offer is, a lot of the time, solid.

But, the responsible gambling issues - the lack of accountability - and the lack of a solid ADR for players to turn to when things DO go wrong is, I fear, going to spell misery for UK players.

I will be getting a pretty long blog about this up in the coming week. Would anyone like to provide comment that I can use on the blog? Please reply to this message or DM me directly, and I can include quotes. Thanks

 

[Lucky Loser]

Many casinos rely on their high rollers for the bulk of their revenue and many won't survive with low betting limits unless their rake is increased substantially. It wont be long before the online RTP of UK facings casinos is reduced to 85% so they can make a profit.

 

[dunover]

Many casinos rely on their high rollers for the bulk of their revenue and many won't survive with low betting limits unless their rake is increased substantially. It wont be long before the online RTP of UK facings casinos is reduced to 85% so they can make a profit.

Don't you mean raised to 85%....

 

[Valhalla]

Pretty soon all UKGC-licensed casinos will feel like that dodgy arcade you pop into in a new town for a quick flutter and very quickly ask yourself how anyone can actually win there.

Their plan to utterly destroy the UK industry is almost complete.

 

[L&L-Jan]

Oh, that's annoying. So are casinos doing a blanket update on their games or go provider by provider? The reason I ask is that I play a lot of collection games (Kingmaker, Lil Devil, Royal Mint) and the like. I've a few in progress on higher stakes. Will the progress get wiped? Or will the Casino kindly inform their players of the upcoming changes so games like this can be finished. I mean do Casinos even know anything about their game libraries? If it wasn't for forums like this, would the player even know? Would there be any recourse if you had say 30 hearts collected on Lil Devil only to visit the game and find the stake you were playing on suddenly gone? Perhaps @L&L-Jan could provide some insight?

Complete those games within the next half a year i would say. Not sure how yet how it will be working but my guess is: We send date of birth to game provider and depending on your age you can bet up to 2 or 5gbp per spin. Information regarding players who have a particular status in collection games is not easy to detect for casino operators, so you can assume you won't be informed about any colleciton status you might lose.

 

[thr0b]

Complete those games within the next half a year i would say. Not sure how yet how it will be working but my guess is: We send date of birth to game provider and depending on your age you can bet up to 2 or 5gbp per spin. Information regarding players who have a particular status in collection games is not easy to detect for casino operators, so you can assume you won't be informed about any colleciton status you might lose.

I'd hope the collection games don't lose progress for those that play them - except for the stakes that are no longer available to the player, natch. We know casinos can choose the stakes available to their players anyway, so surely the restriction at the casino end shouldn't affect the history that remains relevant to the player.

If you see what I mean.

I mean, I do. Just about.

 

[L&L-Jan]

Many casinos rely on their high rollers for the bulk of their revenue

Im sure that's not true.

 

[DreamRJ]

This was going to happen at some point I am shocked they have not already done this. I never bet that high anyway so even the cap of £5 will not affect me. The £2 cap is for anyone under 25 and it is £5 for anyone over 25. I really wonder if that means even high rollers and rich people who like to gamble will be able to get special treatment? or will they be forced to move to unregulated casinos? I am guessing the latter.

 

[goatwack]

The UKGC clearly believe themselves to be doing a great job, evidenced by their continuation down this path. Likely they've identified slotting as the most problematic form in its 'ease of use' and accessibility to gambling and have now made it the poster child.

Like many establishments and companies around them, they'll just continue to double-down on their objectives until the whole thing's ruined, as long as their goals have been met - in this case, to drive not only problem gambling down, but the allure of wanting to take up gambling in the first place!

You can be sure these newly imposed £2 and £5 limits will take years to reverse, if ever. Woe betide the person that attempts to one day have them raised, as in reality, they're only going to get lower.

All the while, no scrutiny is brought on ever-decreasing RTP, rendering the games unplayable, but it's ok - you get to responsibly lose money in a more prolonged, tortuous and unsatisfactory way with £2 limits, so 'job done'!

Self-congratulation and appearing to do the right thing is more important than actually doing the right thing is what it's all about these days, made possible by the very people that have likely never gambled to begin with, but certainly despise the people that do....

And if purging problem gamblers from their books by creating a whole slew of them elsewhere, well then to them that's fine too. Chef's kiss ?‍?

 

[jasonuk]

At least they've clarified this applies to slots - there was rumours at one point the limit would apply to all bets (roulette etc) which would have caused a lot of headaches.

I doubt this one will achieve much - it's a fairly small percentage of the player pool in the first place, and those that have the funds to sustain regular play at £5+ stakes have probably already set sail for Curacao.

The one that is going to cause significantly more impact, is mentioned in a second article -

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the Commission proposed that ‘light checks’ be applied on customer net losses of £125 (without bonus funds) within a rolling 30-day period or £500 within a rolling 365-day period.

A higher level of inspection will be carried out on gambling accounts with losses greater than £1,000 within a rolling 24 hours or £2,000 within 90 days. The Commission endorsed evaluating whether “triggers for enhanced assessments should be lower for those aged 18 to 24”.

The implementation will begin at the higher £1,000/£2,000 threshold and then move to the lower threshold to ease the process of the Commission’s two-stage approach to testing customer affordability.

So Betty spending her tenner a week on the bingo may now be subject to an affordability check... this is going to get messy very quickly.

 

[bamberfishcake]

At least they've clarified this applies to slots - there was rumours at one point the limit would apply to all bets (roulette etc) which would have caused a lot of headaches.

I doubt this one will achieve much - it's a fairly small percentage of the player pool in the first place, and those that have the funds to sustain regular play at £5+ stakes have probably already set sail for Curacao.

The one that is going to cause significantly more impact, is mentioned in a second article -

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So Betty spending her tenner a week on the bingo may now be subject to an affordability check... this is going to get messy very quickly.

Sure is. You don't f"*k with Betty.

I must say that it is rather short-sighted of the UKGC to advertise this. Quite irresponsible to tell a gambling community your bets are about to be capped.

I have always dreamed of betting £20 spins. Now my dream has a deadline. They should have waited to announce a change the day before.

£20 bets here I come! CHAARRGEEEEE!!!!!!

 

[Reelsoffun]

The one that is going to cause significantly more impact, is mentioned in a second article -

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So Betty spending her tenner a week on the bingo may now be subject to an affordability check... this is going to get messy very quickly.

Well I had another affordability check on my credit file early this month, not surprised has been quite a few now over the last couple of years, but this last one I never saw coming...... Power Leisure Ltd, eg Bonne Terre Ltd, which seems to be connected to Sky Vegas so seems even the bigger UK bookmakers are starting to do more checks, not that it bothers me I spend within my means but does seem to show a new shift in checks happening behind the scenes.....

 

[slot_zombie]

At least they've clarified this applies to slots - there was rumours at one point the limit would apply to all bets (roulette etc) which would have caused a lot of headaches.

I doubt this one will achieve much - it's a fairly small percentage of the player pool in the first place, and those that have the funds to sustain regular play at £5+ stakes have probably already set sail for Curacao.

The one that is going to cause significantly more impact, is mentioned in a second article -

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So Betty spending her tenner a week on the bingo may now be subject to an affordability check... this is going to get messy very quickly.

Let.me.get this straight. Having been limited to low stakes and gone through the financial equivalent of a mortgage interrogation just to get the reels spinning, they are now proposing to run additional "light" credit checks at the point of losses above £125 a month. Did I get this right?

All beyond parody at this point. Shake your maracas in Curacao!

 

[justdoit]

Long gone are the days when the UKGC was respected and set the benchmarks for dealing with iGaming regulation.

I understand the premise behind the new rules, but unless they are going to go after all the Curacao sites readily accepting UK players (I'm looking at you BCGAME, who, as a test, VERIFIED my account with my UK Driving License) - this is going to cause long-term mayhem IMO.

We've already seen tons and tons of players moving away from regulated casinos to play at crypto sites in Curacao (myself included, admitadley), but as popular streamers (Bandit, RockRollla) Craig Slots, and so on) are bringing crypto to a wider audience - I fear this is going to further push players into the abysss.

And, personally - I don't BLAME these players. IT's the exact reason I started playing at Crypto sites in Curacao. For five years, not once have I been denied a withdrawal. Some, even after finding out I used to play from the UK, even paid out my winnings but closed my account. So, the service they offer is, a lot of the time, solid.

But, the responsible gambling issues - the lack of accountability - and the lack of a solid ADR for players to turn to when things DO go wrong is, I fear, going to spell misery for UK players.

I will be getting a pretty long blog about this up in the coming week. Would anyone like to provide comment that I can use on the blog? Please reply to this message or DM me directly, and I can include quotes. Thanks

UKGC will do everything to block Curacao casinos, now new rules UK EU with Crypto Wallet over £10k they can ask you for SOW, and if you open new wallet money will get block to transfer for 72hrs, you can trade but no transfer or withdraw to bank, UKGC is just started soon or later they will block all Curacao casinos
my last SOW on wallet Crypto, some wallet they do accept like gambling win, or property you own, but some wallet like Coinbase they hate gambling transfer

P.s. also some forum owners they getting contact by UKGC to remove all Crypto casinos, not long ago Bigwinboard got massage from UKGC to remove all crypto casinos, his not even based on UK, they still ask him to remove

 

[Smithyy]

UKGC will do everything to block Curacao casinos, now new rules UK EU with Crypto Wallet over £10k they can ask you for SOW, and if you open new wallet money will get block to transfer for 72hrs, you can trade but no transfer or withdraw to bank, UKGC is just started soon or later they will block all Curacao casinos
my last SOW on wallet Crypto, some wallet they do accept like gambling win, or property you own, but some wallet like Coinbase they hate gambling transfer
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P.s. also some forum owners they getting contact by UKGC to remove all Crypto casinos, not long ago Bigwinboard got massage from UKGC to remove all crypto casinos, his not even based on UK, they still ask him to remove

Interesting about UKGC asking sites to remove ALL crypto casinos.

In response to your other point though - this is just the major exchanges. Don't see how they can do much against decentralized P2P marketplaces like Agoradesk.

 

[slot_zombie]

Just use a decentralised wallet...

 

[Valhalla]

Just use a decentralised wallet...

For a crypto layman like myself, what does that mean?

 

[Smithyy]

For a crypto layman like myself, what does that mean?

Basically, the exchange or marketplace has no access to your funds. You have control over your private keys (usually), and just deal directly with the buyer/seller.

For example, on Agoradesk, (let's assume you want to buy Bitcoin) you create an account, find a seller - select currency and payment method (Bank Transfer, PayPal, Skrill, etc) and you message with the seller directly. The crypto goes into escrow while you pay them, and once you mark it complete, the seller confirms, and the funds are automatically released to the wallet address you entered when opening the sale.

 

[satchnz]

You can be sure these newly imposed £2 and £5 limits will take years to reverse, if ever. Woe betide the person that attempts to one day have them raised, as in reality, they're only going to get lower.

Inflation over the coming years will probably take care of that without the need to reduce the limits further.

 

[jasonuk]

Well I had another affordability check on my credit file early this month, not surprised has been quite a few now over the last couple of years, but this last one I never saw coming...... Power Leisure Ltd, eg Bonne Terre Ltd, which seems to be connected to Sky Vegas so seems even the bigger UK bookmakers are starting to do more checks, not that it bothers me I spend within my means but does seem to show a new shift in checks happening behind the scenes.....

Yes, Bonne Terre is SkyBet (SkyVegas, SkyBingo etc) before all the Flutter amalgamations, Power Leisure Ltd is Paddy Power.

Let.me.get this straight. Having been limited to low stakes and gone through the financial equivalent of a mortgage interrogation just to get the reels spinning, they are now proposing to run additional "light" credit checks at the point of losses above £125 a month. Did I get this right?

All beyond parody at this point. Shake your maracas in Curacao!

I don't believe these are additional, but codifying the existing situation with lower limits. Operators have been doing these credit checks for a while now, and many have been imposing operator-defined limits based on that information (e.g. getting random notifications that your account has been limited to £500 or £1000 net loss per month, even if your own limits are lower).

It probably marks the beginning of the end for high rollers on UK sites though - because even if you pass the enhanced affordability check at £2000 per 90 days, your slots will be hard-capped at £5 per spin anyway.

 

[thebeast777]

Does anyone have any suggestions/experience of which offshore/unregulated casinos are the safest to play , the ones which will actually pay you if you win ?

 

[slot_zombie]

Does anyone have any suggestions/experience of which offshore/unregulated casinos are the safest to play , the ones which will actually pay you if you win ?

Vave, Betfury, BC Game, 500 Casino to name but 4.

 

[coolrunnings19]

At least they've clarified this applies to slots - there was rumours at one point the limit would apply to all bets (roulette etc) which would have caused a lot of headaches.

I doubt this one will achieve much - it's a fairly small percentage of the player pool in the first place, and those that have the funds to sustain regular play at £5+ stakes have probably already set sail for Curacao.

The one that is going to cause significantly more impact, is mentioned in a second article -

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So Betty spending her tenner a week on the bingo may now be subject to an affordability check... this is going to get messy very quickly.

I think that in the end there will only be a handful of betting websites left. Max stake is now going to be 2/5 pounds and this will never get reversed. It could go down but still won't happen. As soon as someone hits 2000 loss then they will ask for wage slips, bank statements etc. People won't share this. So they will have their account closed. In the end the casinos will hardly have any customers. Technically they can only make 2000 pounds out of each player. So the lower stakes still don't make much of a difference. Players will be restricted from playing anyway at some point. The only ones that won't are the ones doing 20p spins ans who lose about 10 or 20 pounds a week!

 

[coolrunnings19]

Inflation over the coming years will probably take care of that without the need to reduce the limits further.

These limits will never be reversed or raised. We can see the direction that the industry is going...eventually it will just disappear. The only reason online max stake to be reduced was delayed was due to covid. This has been on the cards for a while now. They started in 2019 with land based, now it has hit online. The affordability checks have already kicked in before it becomes law. Now it will become law there isn't any chance this will be reversed, like I said I think eventually it will just disappear (if the casinos don't jump ship before!)

 

[Deeplay]

The usual sound bites are always trotted out, whether that be for 'consumer' or 'player' protection when changes are afoot, or 'protecting' something for the greater good. And who wants to be labelled selfish, after all?

Adult pastimes like vaping are soon to be neutered too, so this isn't beholden to one sector, with all flavourings bar tobacco and menthol to be outlawed, based on flimsy reasoning and obvious agendas spearheaded by tobacco lobbyists....

When drastic changes are made like this without rhyme or reason, you can be sure nine times out of ten it's for reasons other than disclosed to the masses, and usually self-serving

yeah the vapin laws coming in are truly anal! Make no sense. Although the kill switch on flavours is yet to be really discussed - but all it will do if they go that route is push people to buy offshore. None regulated. Like I used to do with Fast-tech before China pulled them was great for vape tanks bigger than the 2.5ml max limit that they allow now here and all other kit vape wise. They are other outlets coming online - so it wont stop it - just push it underground / offshore - shades of Curaco ;-)

 

[jasonuk]

Technically they can only make 2000 pounds out of each player. So the lower stakes still don't make much of a difference. Players will be restricted from playing anyway at some point. The only ones that won't are the ones doing 20p spins ans who lose about 10 or 20 pounds a week!

Remember it's a rolling period - so £2000 per 90 days (or £1000 in 24 hours) and they'll be asking for financial paperwork and your life story. Even low rollers will get credit checked because of the £500 per 365 days.

For low rollers, you're much more likely to be credit checked.
For high rollers, even if you complete the paperwork, you won't be able to play how you want - because of the reduced limits on slots.

The affordability checks have already kicked in before it becomes law. Now it will become law there isn't any chance this will be reversed, like I said I think eventually it will just disappear (if the casinos don't jump ship before!)

The increased burden on operators in the past 3-5 years has already caused a chunk of them to jump ship and stop accepting UK players. The only way it'll be reversed is if it completely slaughters the golden goose - and I don't think it'll do that although it will likely cause another marked exodus by both operators and players alike.

It feels like the end game could be where the bookies are the only ones left - and that's a tough choice when you have WH already offering 88% slots, or Entain and their recurring license breaches and record-breaking fines...

 

[coolrunnings19]

Remember it's a rolling period - so £2000 per 90 days (or £1000 in 24 hours) and they'll be asking for financial paperwork and your life story. Even low rollers will get credit checked because of the £500 per 365 days.

For low rollers, you're much more likely to be credit checked.
For high rollers, even if you complete the paperwork, you won't be able to play how you want - because of the reduced limits on slots.


The increased burden on operators in the past 3-5 years has already caused a chunk of them to jump ship and stop accepting UK players. The only way it'll be reversed is if it completely slaughters the golden goose - and I don't think it'll do that although it will likely cause another marked exodus by both operators and players alike.

It feels like the end game could be where the bookies are the only ones left - and that's a tough choice when you have WH already offering 88% slots, or Entain and their recurring license breaches and record-breaking fines...

In other words online slots are pretty much finished. It's good for problem Gamblers as they can lose only 2000 per casino (so multiply 2000 by the number of casinos or casino groups). I don't know anyone who has or is willing to send confidential info across to these guys. And that will be pretty much it. I lost 600 in ladbrokes last week and they flagged me on their system asking me if I was in control of my gambling. They said the next check is at 3k, then at 9k they will ask for paperwork and if you cant supply it then you are banned. So eventually everything will go I feel. The industry has taken a battering and it will be worse still. Not sure there is really any way back for them. It will be the one pound bingo players and the 5 pound football accas each week. So soon the shops will start to disappear

 

[kennygamerboy]

Makes me laugh how they are doing all this yet every bleeding advert is a gambling advert all day every day even all the sports teams have gambling sites all over the kits! Make it make sense!

 

[dealer wins]

UKGC will do everything to block Curacao casinos, now new rules UK EU with Crypto Wallet over £10k they can ask you for SOW, and if you open new wallet money will get block to transfer for 72hrs, you can trade but no transfer or withdraw to bank, UKGC is just started soon or later they will block all Curacao casinos
my last SOW on wallet Crypto, some wallet they do accept like gambling win, or property you own, but some wallet like Coinbase they hate gambling transfer

If you use coinbase move your crypto to their self custody wallet. That stops them even seeing your transactions I believe.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Ladbrokes / Coral £100 a month.
Sky £100 a month.
365 £200 a month.
Hills £1,000 a month.
Paddy £5,000 a month.

All the above loss limits applied to my accounts over recent times and all want documents to get them changed. Which obv will they will NEVER get from me.

It’s funny how sky and paddy who are both owned by the same group see me so differently. Probably due to the absolute brains I do on paddy playing BTG on their site. They obv don’t want to lose me as a customer. Or maybe I got ‘missed’ from their RG credit checks. Either way I’ll be using it as ammo when it finally happens.

Hills despite allowing £1,000 a month losses from me have bonus banned me yet again because I actually had a crack on bonanza on their site the other night. I rarely play there and mainly just use them for betting (small). Anyway bonanza did its usual thing (nothing) and I lost a couple of hundred. The next day I get an email saying they’ve noticed a change in my play and in line with their responsible gambling are removing all promotions. This is annoying as they are doing £5 free bets each day for Cheltenham. However I can still continue to deposit another £700 odd if I want to of course. It’s fucking crazy. I will contact them about this as for me it’s essential to have as many accounts as possible for Cheltenham. But I suspect it will be in vain. This is the 3rd time this has happened btw.

The £100 a month on lads/corals is between ALL their groups. So a £50 loss on each site and I’m doomed for the month. February’s play was a stunning £100 loss on The Doghouse (yes it’s max RTP) for not a single feature on 20/40p so thanks for that.

Along with stake restrictions imposed for betting purposes on all these sites it’s becoming increasingly annoying. Annoying to the point where the outcome will be inevitable.

Myself and others will simply not bother. Neither will I risk not getting paid by some off shore crypto joint.

I also hope they pull the trigger on these wankers that push crypto sites on uk players who are not allowed to play there ffs.

 

[jasonuk]

I also hope they pull the trigger on these wankers that push crypto sites on uk players who are not allowed to play there ffs.

I've noticed Rolla is now publishing content that was "recorded in October" from his crypto adventures - the thing is if he's currently in the UK (as an individual and/or business entity) and uploading affiliated crypto content, that is a breach and the UKGC really should be acting on such an open goal.

If they're going to start a second mass exodus in the coming months, they really don't want to be shown to be giving an easy ride to UK-based affiliates potentially breaking the law.

 

[justdoit]

I've noticed Rolla is now publishing content that was "recorded in October" from his crypto adventures - the thing is if he's currently in the UK (as an individual and/or business entity) and uploading affiliated crypto content, that is a breach and the UKGC really should be acting on such an open goal.

If they're going to start a second mass exodus in the coming months, they really don't want to be shown to be giving an easy ride to UK-based affiliates potentially breaking the law.

Rolla his streaming from Guernsey and his not breach any UKGC law, and his old videos he played on Ireland not from UK, if you have proof you registered on Guernsey or Ireland UKGc cant do nothing about it. you have Bandit open admit his using VPN from UK and he don't real care what UKGC has to say

 

[justdoit]

Ladbrokes / Coral £100 a month.
Sky £100 a month.
365 £200 a month.
Hills £1,000 a month.
Paddy £5,000 a month.

All the above loss limits applied to my accounts over recent times and all want documents to get them changed. Which obv will they will NEVER get from me.

It’s funny how sky and paddy who are both owned by the same group see me so differently. Probably due to the absolute brains I do on paddy playing BTG on their site. They obv don’t want to lose me as a customer. Or maybe I got ‘missed’ from their RG credit checks. Either way I’ll be using it as ammo when it finally happens.

Hills despite allowing £1,000 a month losses from me have bonus banned me yet again because I actually had a crack on bonanza on their site the other night. I rarely play there and mainly just use them for betting (small). Anyway bonanza did its usual thing (nothing) and I lost a couple of hundred. The next day I get an email saying they’ve noticed a change in my play and in line with their responsible gambling are removing all promotions. This is annoying as they are doing £5 free bets each day for Cheltenham. However I can still continue to deposit another £700 odd if I want to of course. It’s fucking crazy. I will contact them about this as for me it’s essential to have as many accounts as possible for Cheltenham. But I suspect it will be in vain. This is the 3rd time this has happened btw.

The £100 a month on lads/corals is between ALL their groups. So a £50 loss on each site and I’m doomed for the month. February’s play was a stunning £100 loss on The Doghouse (yes it’s max RTP) for not a single feature on 20/40p so thanks for that.

Along with stake restrictions imposed for betting purposes on all these sites it’s becoming increasingly annoying. Annoying to the point where the outcome will be inevitable.

Myself and others will simply not bother. Neither will I risk not getting paid by some off shore crypto joint.

I also hope they pull the trigger on these wankers that push crypto sites on uk players who are not allowed to play there ffs.

Pokerstars they give £5k limits without any doc

 

[justdoit]

Parliament TV link for the affordability checks debate at 4.30 today

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