Question Wheel of Rizk questions - please help.

[asadzareef89]

Level Up
Every time you fill the Power Bar, you move up a level, the more levels you climb, the more exciting the Wheel of Rizk becomes with Jackpots and Super Wheels appearing on higher levels.

Now, this all looks great and i have been playing rizk every week 3-4 times, and i like to bet b/w 0.27 - 0.45 as i deposit mainly for playtime n if i win great.

In that time i have gone up 64 levels with 61 times i got 5 fs, twice race points and once double speed bar

So out of curiousity i asked Live help why is it i always only 5 free spins

I was told by Live chat because i low roll I can NEVER win anything other than 5 fs as that's how the system is set up

So is this false advertising or pure scam to lure players in?

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[goatwack]

I'd only had two goes on the wheel myself, both times on low levels. I also won five spins, and noted how the system needed improving.

It's definitely geared towards lowrollers, I don't think it's a scam. Just a badly-implemented 'extra' that becomes less worthwhile the more you progress in levels!

Time to reboot the entire thing!

 

[aceking123]

Easy fix make it random without any connection to prior bets , because clearly the system takes into account your bet level hence your stuck on low spins on it, having said that you can now keep them until you have enough for superspins.

I dont think Rizk is scamming anyone , captain is pretty good )

 

[Captain Rizk]

I am not sure why anyone told you that asadzareef because it isnt true.

Certainly if you are playing at lower levels then the probability of you hitting a reward like 5 Free Spins is far far higher than it is when you are betting at €1 per spin for example for obvious reasons, but it is still random.

IN the same way that when you register and you get your first "free" Wheel of Rizk, it is set so that the most likely prize is 10 Free Spins, but for example in your case you won 35 Free Spins instead.

I will check the chat logs later today to see who told you that you could NEVER get more than 5 Free Spins and we will make sure that they dont make that mistake again.

Level Up
Every time you fill the Power Bar, you move up a level, the more levels you climb, the more exciting the Wheel of Rizk becomes with Jackpots and Super Wheels appearing on higher levels.

Now, this all looks great and i have been playing rizk every week 3-4 times, and i like to bet b/w 0.27 - 0.45 as i deposit mainly for playtime n if i win great.

In that time i have gone up 64 levels with 61 times i got 5 fs, twice race points and once double speed bar

So out of curiousity i asked Live help why is it i always only 5 free spins

I was told by Live chat because i low roll I can NEVER win anything other than 5 fs as that's how the system is set up

So is this false advertising or pure scam to lure players in?

 

[asadzareef89]

I am not sure why anyone told you that asadzareef because it isnt true.

Certainly if you are playing at lower levels then the probability of you hitting a reward like 5 Free Spins is far far higher than it is when you are betting at €1 per spin for example for obvious reasons, but it is still random.

IN the same way that when you register and you get your first "free" Wheel of Rizk, it is set so that the most likely prize is 10 Free Spins, but for example in your case you won 35 Free Spins instead.

I will check the chat logs later today to see who told you that you could NEVER get more than 5 Free Spins and we will make sure that they dont make that mistake again.

i dont remember the wheel spin when i joined but for leveling up i already wrote what i got n once after accumulating 50 fs i exchanged them for 5 spins at 1 pounds but they were still accumulated via 5 fs

After the reply i asked for surety whether i got the right info

I asked, '' So because i low roll i can never win anything other than 5 fs'' the chat agent replied something like '' yes that's correct'' n even gave me 15fs extra

 

[Captain Rizk]

And then gave you 15FS!

Please accept my apologies for you being given the wrong information last night, we will make sure that all agents are fully aware that this and that it doesnt happen again. Thanks for making me aware.

i dont remember the wheel spin when i joined but for leveling up i already wrote what i got n once after accumulating 50 fs i exchanged them for 5 spins at 1 pounds but they were still accumulated via 5 fs

After the reply i asked for surety whether i got the right info

I asked, '' So because i low roll i can never win anything other than 5 fs'' the chat agent replied something like '' yes that's correct'' n even gave me 15fs extra

 

[asadzareef89]

And then gave you 15FS!

.

yes she added 15 fs on starburst in my rewards

 

[lotusch]

Well my betsize varies anything between €0.50 and €3.00 depending my balance and I have hit a few good times 15 or 25 FS.
Also had free money a few times so not too bad all in all.

I think the chances of hitting super or mega spins is pretty low and to hit the JP is probably a one in a million chance but hey don't forget all this stuff is free of wagering.
If the wheel would dish out super spins and mega spins all the time and 20 jackpots a day, then I think Rizk would not be around for a long time as their funds would be drained in prize monies.

And oi oi, do not mess with the captain and his crew, this is decent folk up there!

 

[Deeplay]

They are many casinos that give you eff all apart from the odd bonus with insane WR .... so this is an add on and winnings are WF. Cant complain about a free lunch So to say its a scam is harsh. I aint played at rizk in a while but will come tomorrow night wheel or no wheel )

 

[interlog]

After being told that he can win no more than 5 free spins by CS, I can see why the OP thought it was a scam considering it is advertised that the more you level up the more exciting the wheel gets.

But the Captain has explained that this is not the case.

I am still not allowed to play at Rizk but as soon as I can, I may give the wheel a try myself.

 

[colinsunderland]

I am not sure why anyone told you that asadzareef because it isnt true.

Certainly if you are playing at lower levels then the probability of you hitting a reward like 5 Free Spins is far far higher than it is when you are betting at €1 per spin for example for obvious reasons, but it is still random.

IN the same way that when you register and you get your first "free" Wheel of Rizk, it is set so that the most likely prize is 10 Free Spins, but for example in your case you won 35 Free Spins instead.

I will check the chat logs later today to see who told you that you could NEVER get more than 5 Free Spins and we will make sure that they dont make that mistake again.

I'm a bit confused by that, how can something be completely random then you say but you have a higher chance of xx reward depending on your stake? Its either random or it isn't random and the result is affected by other factors.
Does it explain this on the site as I played loads up to a few months ago, getting to level 100+ in a few weeks, and from memory 80-90% of my wins were 5 FS, yet most my stakes were 60p-1.20.

 

[Jono777]

I play at Rizk now and then but by no means could class myself as either a regular nor a reliable depositor, just as I say a little more often than 'Once in a Blue Moon'

During my history I have played a range of 0.09p bets up to the occasional 0.90, average of I'd say 0.30, so defo would be considered a low roller.

I have levelled up several times and during this time received, 10 FS, 5FS, Super Spins, race points, so a mixture, granted the majority are 5FS but for my play style and bet sizes I don't expect anything higher, it simply would not be cricket.

Just sharing as it goes to show all rewards are possible.

I once had 900 SS off a very special 'Wheel' but that is another story ...............

Edit: I most certainly think the thread title needs changing, bit unfair to Rizk

 

[Captain Rizk]

I'm a bit confused by that, how can something be completely random then you say but you have a higher chance of xx reward depending on your stake? Its either random or it isn't random and the result is affected by other factors.
Does it explain this on the site as I played loads up to a few months ago, getting to level 100+ in a few weeks, and from memory 80-90% of my wins were 5 FS, yet most my stakes were 60p-1.20.

Think of it like this Colin. There are 10 prizes to be won, 8 of them are 5FS then the RNG pulls a number from 1-10 completely at Random and you win the corresponding prize

 

[colinsunderland]

Think of it like this Colin. There are 10 prizes to be won, 8 of them are 5FS then the RNG pulls a number from 1-10 completely at Random and you win the corresponding prize

So does the wheel not accurately depict the prizes that are available? How does increasing the bet size affect the prize, are there only 6 x 5 free spins on it (using your example above)?

 

[dionysus]

So does the wheel not accurately depict the prizes that are available? How does increasing the bet size affect the prize, are there only 6 x 5 free spins on it (using your example above)?

I'd imagine, and correct me if I'm wrong, the wheel is eye-candy...representative, but not an exact representation...no different than say, a jackpot wheel. It may show 10 wedges but that doesnt mean youve a one in 10 chance of hitting something large.
It isnt misrepresntative per se...you couldnt fit all possible outcomes onto a visual wheel.

Think of it like a slots pull. You win or dont. The more you up your best, the higher your payout could be because well, you staked more. But there's still more lower wins available of all outcomes.

 

[dunover]

With all respect to the OP, I think people should question their gambling philosophy if 5-30 10p free spins on St*rb*rst act as some sort of incentive to them. I am kind of saying that it seems like mummy letting you grab a few sweets out of the jar when you come home from school each day. I don't know about others but I don't even look for them - I've often logged-in at a site after say a month away and opened a Gnatent game and found I had 10 FS from ages ago that I neither knew nor cared I had. In some cases like at Spin Genie it actually pisses me off, say I am all cash as usual and I open Twin Spin and find some annoying twatting spins there which means I have the inconvenience (as they have a WR) of playing them off and then losing the odd 7p say on St*rb*rst at 1p/7 lines before I carry on.

I play at Sky mainly and my only reward is 100% up to £100 once a week with a nice EV+ 10 x D+B WR. To me that is worth more than gimmicky temptations and/or FS at a pathetic stake on some tedious Gnatent early-learning game.

If you like spinning wheels go play Wheel OF Fortune, Wheel Of Wealth or Super Monopoly Money.

What the OP is saying is that they are giving the impression that their promo (unlike every other promo i.e. races, loyalty points, raffle tickets, reward bonuses, cashback etc.) is somehow NOT related to customer expenditure/turnover. Unfortunately common sense decrees that rewards are always related to the level of participation and Rizk is no different.

 

[asadzareef89]

Well my betsize varies anything between €0.50 and €3.00 depending my balance and I have hit a few good times 15 or 25 FS.
Also had free money a few times so not too bad all in all.

I think the chances of hitting super or mega spins is pretty low and to hit the JP is probably a one in a million chance but hey don't forget all this stuff is free of wagering.
If the wheel would dish out super spins and mega spins all the time and 20 jackpots a day, then I think Rizk would not be around for a long time as their funds would be drained in prize monies.

And oi oi, do not mess with the captain and his crew, this is decent folk up there!

i agree with what you are saying, but the customer support told me I had zero chance of ever winning anything more than 5fs hence the thread

If they had told me what Captain Rizk has said I would have just taken as bad luck but I was told being a low roller I had zero chance of ever getting anything other than 5fs so to me that would be false advertising as I have checked thoroughly on their site for any reference to this being/not being the case but can't find anything other than that being random and apparently jackpot can be won anytime we level up

Even if what the chat rep told me isn't exactly right, it just makes me suspicious of its randomness as there's no smoke without a fire

Also by law of averges if I have a 20% chance of hitting something other than 5 fs i think 64 spins ought to have given me a higher reward atleast once

Not complaining though as I know its all down to luck but as I said to the support staff they should make this clear on the promo page that you can't win higher rewards unless you bet higher

 

[Captain Rizk]

So does the wheel not accurately depict the prizes that are available? How does increasing the bet size affect the prize, are there only 6 x 5 free spins on it (using your example above)?

Hi Colin, the wheel does reflect the prizes that are available. my 8 out of 10 post was purely for illustration and to try to make it as simple as possible

 

[Jono777]

A bloke just knocked my front door, total stranger he was, never seen him before in my life.

'Here you go mate' he said handing me £99 cash.

I looked in my hand, looked back at the guy as I huffed and puffed, tutted and replied 'Couldn't make it the £100 could you?'

Moral of the sarcasm, The wheel doesn't have to be there at all, plenty sites out there that give us feck all!!

 

[goatwack]

A bloke just knocked my front door, total stranger he was, never seen him before in my life.

'Here you go mate' he said handing me £99 cash.

I looked in my hand, looked back at the guy as I huffed and puffed, tutted and replied 'Couldn't make it the £100 could you?'

Moral of the sarcasm, The wheel doesn't have to be there at all, plenty sites out there that give us feck all!!

I don't see anything wrong with this. You had both agreed on the fees beforehand :xxx

Sorry Jon, had to

 

[theapple]

Hi Colin, the wheel does reflect the prizes that are available. my 8 out of 10 post was purely for illustration and to try to make it as simple as possible

and it wasnt because saying 98 out of 100 just doesnt have same effect

 

[colinsunderland]

Hi Colin, the wheel does reflect the prizes that are available. my 8 out of 10 post was purely for illustration and to try to make it as simple as possible

ok, but I have span the wheel over 100 times, from memory the 5 fs cover no more than 50% of the wheel, yet the amount of times I hit them is FAR above that, and seems to be with everyone. How can that be if it is completely random? Also, when I have had sessions on DOA at 9 or 18p the wheels look the same as when I play GOT or IR at £1.20 a session, so if I have a higher chance of winning a bigger prize after playing £1.20 spins, why don't I get extra symbols for the bigger spins?
Worst for me was seeing a skull on a super wheel though and pretty much stopped me playing there, think thats been removed now hasn't it?

A bloke just knocked my front door, total stranger he was, never seen him before in my life.

'Here you go mate' he said handing me £99 cash.

I looked in my hand, looked back at the guy as I huffed and puffed, tutted and replied 'Couldn't make it the £100 could you?'

Moral of the sarcasm, The wheel doesn't have to be there at all, plenty sites out there that give us feck all!!

But if its being used as an incentive to get people to play there then it should be fair and you should have a right to know how it works?

 

[Jono777]

ok, but I have span the wheel over 100 times, from memory the 5 fs cover no more than 50% of the wheel, yet the amount of times I hit them is FAR above that, and seems to be with everyone. How can that be if it is completely random? Also, when I have had sessions on DOA at 9 or 18p the wheels look the same as when I play GOT or IR at £1.20 a session, so if I have a higher chance of winning a bigger prize after playing £1.20 spins, why don't I get extra symbols for the bigger spins?
Worst for me was seeing a skull on a super wheel though and pretty much stopped me playing there, think thats been removed now hasn't it?



But if its being used as an incentive to get people to play there then it should be fair and you should have a right to know how it works?

NP buddy, this maybe of interest/worth a read??

https://sussexmskpartnershipeast.com/forums/threads/wheel-of-rizk.71932/?t=71932

 

[dionysus]

ok, but I have span the wheel over 100 times, from memory the 5 fs cover no more than 50% of the wheel, yet the amount of times I hit them is FAR above that, and seems to be with everyone. How can that be if it is completely random? Also, when I have had sessions on DOA at 9 or 18p the wheels look the same as when I play GOT or IR at £1.20 a session, so if I have a higher chance of winning a bigger prize after playing £1.20 spins, why don't I get extra symbols for the bigger spins?
Worst for me was seeing a skull on a super wheel though and pretty much stopped me playing there, think thats been removed now hasn't it?



But if its being used as an incentive to get people to play there then it should be fair and you should have a right to know how it works?

Because again, there's nothing saying the wheel represents the odds of getting a certain prize...rather, it represents the prizes available.

Things can be random....for a certain degree of randomness. It's random that anyone can win a jackpot. Winning the jackpot isnt equal odds with winning 20 cents.

 

[theapple]

A bloke just knocked my front door, total stranger he was, never seen him before in my life.

'Here you go mate' he said handing me £99 cash.

I looked in my hand, looked back at the guy as I huffed and puffed, tutted and replied 'Couldn't make it the £100 could you?'

Moral of the sarcasm, The wheel doesn't have to be there at all, plenty sites out there that give us feck all!!

yeah but then again... dont play at sites that give you feck all instead

i mean id understand and even agree with you to some extent... if there were like 8 online casinos out there. But today we have some, idk ... over 9000 casinos and quite a few of those do offer decent loyalty rewards and most are not exclusive to highrollers either.

I really like what captain is doing here, i also like Rizk, their layout and cashout speed and quite a few other things. But Wheel of rizk is not one of those things and i, as a lowroller really feel like i have no reason whatsoever to play there.

Yeah i might be super low roller, and im playing mostly for fun and deposit 10-20 at a time. But even for me, those $0,50 i get every few levels (whenever i dont get the ticket ) are a bit... meh? Yeah sure its wager free, but for gods sake, its half a dollar we are talking about, that has to be spent in one of 4 slots i dont really like to begin with. And thats pretty much my loyalty reward there, so as i said it does feel a bit underwhelming

 

[Jono777]

I hear you and I am not saying that the WoR is the best thing since sliced bread either, in fact as I mentioned in my other post, I don't play at Rizk all that often and it is the reloads and 'trust factor' which encourage me rather than the wheel.

The big difference is that, yes as you say plenty of fish in the sea to choose from BUT how many of these competitors offers are Wager free and as often (you can level up LOTS if you drop on a decent 'stay level' session).

We all saw what Jory did from 10FS on Starburst, granted rare but over 1K of free cash with no wagering to damage his chances!

Other places sure, you can get small rewards regularly (Casumo springs to mind) but they've attached WR also, if you strike it lucky, chances are the -4% we all love will do some good damage to our balance before we even get close to cashing out.

Captain has mentioned 'alternatives' in the past but their whole ethos is based on real rewards and no bullshit, something they'd maybe have to readdress if introducing a healthier reward system which would from a business point of view need to bring along wagering with a whole host of associated Terms & Conditions.

We could (and probably will) debate the Wheel for ever and a day, problem is they will never be able to find a 'one size fits all' solution so better to have it the way it is than not at all!

 

[colinsunderland]

NP buddy, this maybe of interest/worth a read??

https://sussexmskpartnershipeast.com/forums/threads/wheel-of-rizk.71932/?t=71932

Each Wheel of Rizk has a number of different prizes and each one is selected at random as we wanted to add an element of anticipation/surprise/excitement to it.

So the prizes are random, but doesn't actually say the spin creates a random prize, just the prizes on the wheel are random, which I don't really believe as if it were true you could get all Jackpot symbols.
But I don't believe the spin is random either as almost every time you get 5FS with far outweighs the number of them on the wheel.

Because again, there's nothing saying the wheel represents the odds of getting a certain prize...rather, it represents the prizes available.

Things can be random....for a certain degree of randomness. It's random that anyone can win a jackpot. Winning the jackpot isnt equal odds with winning 20 cents.

Its either random or it isn't.
Say there are 20 symbols, 12 are 5fs, 5 are 10fs 2 are ss and 1 is jackpot. If its random then you could hit the jackpot every spin. You should be hitting something other than 5fs more often than it happens.
As I say, the symbols for me on the wheel were no different playing 9p spins than they were 1.20 spins, and nor were the prizes.

The wheel is a great idea, but 50p of spins on 4 of the worst games I have ever played, after a £300ish playthrough, not for me I'm afraid, especially when VS will give you cash back and race points giving you a much higher return. I think on my last 40 or so spins my biggest win was 5FS, the law of averages says if it is random it there should have been one spin where I did better.

Oethr casinos give much better loyalty rewards than this, and some are getting better. Look at BGO the other day - £100's worth of spins for a £25 deposit and play through. Yes they had WR but gives you much more playtime than 50p on starburst which is, I think, important to most players.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Geez the forum on fire because of some FS

Funny how we are OK to lose 100's/1000's every month but then get all worked up because of some FS. No logic in that.

I had anything from 5FS to 5 bucks and SS from the WoR, once race points in some 60 odd levels....would say about 60% the result was the ominous 5FS

 

[goatwack]

Geez the forum on fire because of some FS

Funny how we are OK to lose 100's/1000's every month but then get all worked up because of some FS. No logic in that.

I had anything from 5FS to 5 bucks and SS from the WoR, once race points in some 60 odd levels....would say about 60% the result was the ominous 5FS

First-World problems are not to be laughed at!

 

[dionysus]

Each Wheel of Rizk has a number of different prizes and each one is selected at random as we wanted to add an element of anticipation/surprise/excitement to it.

So the prizes are random, but doesn't actually say the spin creates a random prize, just the prizes on the wheel are random, which I don't really believe as if it were true you could get all Jackpot symbols.
But I don't believe the spin is random either as almost every time you get 5FS with far outweighs the number of them on the wheel.



Its either random or it isn't.
Say there are 20 symbols, 12 are 5fs, 5 are 10fs 2 are ss and 1 is jackpot. If its random then you could hit the jackpot every spin. You should be hitting something other than 5fs more often than it happens.
As I say, the symbols for me on the wheel were no different playing 9p spins than they were 1.20 spins, and nor were the prizes.

The wheel is a great idea, but 50p of spins on 4 of the worst games I have ever played, after a £300ish playthrough, not for me I'm afraid, especially when VS will give you cash back and race points giving you a much higher return. I think on my last 40 or so spins my biggest win was 5FS, the law of averages says if it is random it there should have been one spin where I did better.

Oethr casinos give much better loyalty rewards than this, and some are getting better. Look at BGO the other day - £100's worth of spins for a £25 deposit and play through. Yes they had WR but gives you much more playtime than 50p on starburst which is, I think, important to most players.

Random and odds are NOT synonymous.
Theoretically, on any given slot that has a jackpot which could be triggered, at say, a 50 cent bet, could be hit on any given spin. That's random. It could be hit back to back or never once in a lifetime.
But the chance of hitting that jackpot is one in milllions, if not in billions. That's odds.

Again, you're looking at the wheel as though those are twenty actual wedges.
When you spin a jackpot wheel..let's use The Dark Knight Rises...and you see a dozen wedges. Those arent an acual twenty wedges. It's representative. You've still only that chance in millions.

when the wheel spins, and you miss it by one wedge...YOU NEVER ACTUALLY MISSED IT BY ONE WEDGE. You won it or you didnt win it. The wheel is eye candy. But the same odds are in play..that one in milions/billions.

Winning that jackpot isnt 1 in 20 just because you see 20 wedges. It just doesnt work that way. Othwewise, winning screenshots would be littered with them.

 

[dunover]

I really can't believe people have so much to say on this subject. Jesus Wept. Think the stupid wheel on WMS's SMM - the 200x is one position in say 30 but it's thousands to one against that you'll hit it. Same as Dionysus said about the jackpot wheel - MG's jackpot would appear to be 1/30 chance say but it's tens of millions to one against.

If people believe that they can spend a few quid on 20p spins or whatever and win at odds of 10/1 (the wheel segments) big jackpot or great prize regularly then they are deluded. Perhaps Rizk should hire the London Eye for a day, cover it in cardboard and measure the circumference (424 metres) and then break this down into 1cm sections, and draw a line to the centre from each, thus having a 42,400 segment wheel. Get some local schoolkids to colour the segments in, 42,300 of them 5FS and 99 of them 50 FS and 1 the 'jackpot'.

Spin it fast round a few times (minus the schoolkids) and video it stopping at the 3 possible outcomes. Upload this to their server and demonstrate to those not clever enough to understand that graphics have f*ck-all to do with the outcomes of random spins, but to silence them it then represents visually the real chances of winning each possible prize.

Then they will get over their mental turmoil the present Wheel Of Doom/Rizk invokes with its false hopes and will actually be disappointed right from the start rather than with the inevitable shit result.

 

[colinsunderland]

I think posting stuff that borders on being insulting to anyone who doesn't agree is a bit over the top tbh.
What would be the point of having a forum if everyone just posted 'yes I agree'?

The wheel allocates the prizes randomly apparently, but it can't be completely random as you never get 4 or 8 jackpot slices, just like you never get a wheel full of 5FS prizes. I completely understand the difference between odds and random, but the odds show that if there are a pool of prizes, 90% of them are 5FS then the odds would suggest that there are times when 5FS would fill the wheel, it doesn't , just as, and obviously this would be much bigger odds, there would be times when you could get 10 Jackpot symbols.

To use the London eye example, if you span it 10 times, what would the odds be of only getting say 4 x 5FS out the 10 spins?

 

[goatwack]

Well, that's easy then.

Just have Rizk redesign the wheel into 42,400 visual segments!

 

[dionysus]

I think posting stuff that borders on being insulting to anyone who doesn't agree is a bit over the top tbh.
What would be the point of having a forum if everyone just posted 'yes I agree'?

The wheel allocates the prizes randomly apparently, but it can't be completely random as you never get 4 or 8 jackpot slices, just like you never get a wheel full of 5FS prizes. I completely understand the difference between odds and random, but the odds show that if there are a pool of prizes, 90% of them are 5FS then the odds would suggest that there are times when 5FS would fill the wheel, it doesn't , just as, and obviously this would be much bigger odds, there would be times when you could get 10 Jackpot symbols.

To use the London eye example, if you span it 10 times, what would the odds be of only getting say 4 x 5FS out the 10 spins?

Because, as explained, ad nauseum, the wheel is eye-candy....it's not an actual represenation. There's an RNG for that. (if it is, I'm sure Cap'n can correct me).
It's 'for fun'....something to add to the thrill. the wheel, I'd wager, is completely irrelevant - the rng would have grabbed a win/loss from the pool, it was sent from the server, the wheel shows the 'result'.
This doesnt take away from any randomness.

Anyway, it's been discussed to death. If you enjoy the wheel prizes, fantastic. If you don't, don't stress them.

 

[colinsunderland]

Because, as explained, ad nauseum, the wheel is eye-candy....it's not an actual represenation. There's an RNG for that. (if it is, I'm sure Cap'n can correct me).
It's 'for fun'....something to add to the thrill. the wheel, I'd wager, is completely irrelevant - the rng would have grabbed a win/loss from the pool, it was sent from the server, the wheel shows the 'result'.
This doesnt take away from any randomness.

Anyway, it's been discussed to death. If you enjoy the wheel prizes, fantastic. If you don't, don't stress them.

I'm not stressed but I thought this was a discussion forum so we could discuss things like this

 

[asadzareef89]

I really can't believe people have so much to say on this subject. Jesus Wept. Think the stupid wheel on WMS's SMM - the 200x is one position in say 30 but it's thousands to one against that you'll hit it. Same as Dionysus said about the jackpot wheel - MG's jackpot would appear to be 1/30 chance say but it's tens of millions to one against.

If people believe that they can spend a few quid on 20p spins or whatever and win at odds of 10/1 (the wheel segments) big jackpot or great prize regularly then they are deluded. Perhaps Rizk should hire the London Eye for a day, cover it in cardboard and measure the circumference (424 metres) and then break this down into 1cm sections, and draw a line to the centre from each, thus having a 42,400 segment wheel. Get some local schoolkids to colour the segments in, 42,300 of them 5FS and 99 of them 50 FS and 1 the 'jackpot'.

Spin it fast round a few times (minus the schoolkids) and video it stopping at the 3 possible outcomes. Upload this to their server and demonstrate to those not clever enough to understand that graphics have f*ck-all to do with the outcomes of random spins, but to silence them it then represents visually the real chances of winning each possible prize.

Then they will get over their mental turmoil the present Wheel Of Doom/Rizk invokes with its false hopes and will actually be disappointed right from the start rather than with the inevitable shit result.

its not whether anyone should win it every spin, its what they said '' no matter what you have no chance of winning anything other than 5fs'', its like MG saying yeah there's 4 jackpots on the wheel but you can't ever win anything other than the minor jackpot

If they had said like the rep '' its random'', story finished but they said you can never win anything other than the 5fs hence my thread

I still believe if what the chat agent said is true, then its completely false advertising to lure players in to try their luck when you never stood a chance anyway

 

[miksaxxx]

stop this madness..

Of course it is random, i have winned money, normal spins , Super spins, mega spins.. etc:

 

[goatwack]

Of course it is random, i have winned money, normal spins , Super spins, mega spins.. etc: View attachment 69637View attachment 69638

I think your battery is low.

Must be all them free spins!!

 

[miksaxxx]

lol

Sorry , my battery charger is charging my head..

I think your battery is low.

Must be all them free spins!!

 

[theapple]

Of course it is random, i have winned money, normal spins , Super spins, mega spins.. etc: View attachment 69637View attachment 69638

yeah its so very random. almost too random for its own good

 

[goatwack]

yeah its so very random. almost too random for its own good

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Don't make me take a bite out of you, Apple! :eat:

 

[miksaxxx]

yeah its so very random. almost too random for its own good

I have had same luck. now my average Stakes has been about 5-6€ per spin. More risk . Have chased jackpot , but it has not comed.

 

[Harry_BKK]

5 pages and still going.

If anybody on here thinks that playing all the time with minimum stakes should give you the same chance for higher rewards like for a player staking all the time medium-high spins/bets then you are living in cuckoo land.

Firstly the potential losses and most probably the real ones as well, hence the contribution to the casino's turnover, are much higher and should be rightly so better rewarded.

Secondly, Rizk is just like VS one of the best casinos for non-bonus play. The rewards are all WR free and usually amount to 5-7% of your total deposits. That is good enough for me since i don't have to sit there trying to get through 100's or 1000's of wagering.

Thirdly, the Captain will take very good care of you if you have a prolonged losing period, even for low rollers. That is nowadays a rare thing among online casinos.

Lastly, the WoR is just a little side show were you could have a very lucky moment to hit some SS/MS or even the jackpot. That's how I look at it.

 

[lotusch]

5 pages and still going.

If anybody on here thinks that playing all the time with minimum stakes should give you the same chance for higher rewards like for a player staking all the time medium-high spins/bets then you are living in cuckoo land.

Firstly the potential losses and most probably the real ones as well, hence the contribution to the casino's turnover, are much higher and should be rightly so better rewarded.

Secondly, Rizk is just like VS one of the best casinos for non-bonus play. The rewards are all WR free and usually amount to 5-7% of your total deposits. That is good enough for me since i don't have to sit there trying to get through 100's or 1000's of wagering.

Thirdly, the Captain will take very good care of you if you have a prolonged losing period, even for low rollers. That is nowadays a rare thing among online casinos.

Lastly, the WoR is just a little side show were you could have a very lucky moment to hit some SS/MS or even the jackpot. That's how I look at it.

100% agree on your post.
5 pages of discussion about a bloody game that dishes out freebees to customers.
No matter how little the rewards are,they are still FREE.
I take them, no problem.

Many casino's where I have deposited over the past years have given me little or nothing in rewards.
Rizk at least gives me something,each and every time I level up.

And no matter how slim the chances, the JP is on the wheel so it can be won!!
As the Irish Lotto would say: "It could be You" ^^

 

[goatwack]

100% agree on your post.
5 pages of discussion about a bloody game that dishes out freebees to customers.
No matter how little the rewards are,they are still FREE.
I take them, no problem.

Many casino's where I have deposited over the past years have given me little or nothing in rewards.
Rizk at least gives me something,each and every time I level up.

And no matter how slim the chances, the JP is on the wheel so it can be won!!
As the Irish Lotto would say: "It could be You" ^^

It's slightly different for you Lotusch......if you win the jackpot, I'm afraid you'll owe the casino a couple of million £

 

[colinsunderland]

Secondly, Rizk is just like VS one of the best casinos for non-bonus play. The rewards are all WR free and usually amount to 5-7% of your total deposits. That is good enough for me since i don't have to sit there trying to get through 100's or 1000's of wagering.

Wish I had your luck
I did actually look at what I got back from £300 in deposits once from the wheel, got 5FS 7 times, so £3.50 in spins, from them I got £2.50 back so under 1%
VS are much better for rewards with no WR and other casinos give free spins out with no WR.
Rizk are a good casino with games that work (starting to be a plus these days than expected), the Captain is an excellent rep and even when he is being criticized keeps replying calmly to try to work stuff out and they will also change things based on feedback from customers (ie the Skull being removed) something I don't think I've seen any other casino do. I just wish they would send a few deposit offers out, or maybe include some on the wheel, or at least change the games, I can only play 2 of the 4 that are there anyway, starburst and the pyramid one, the other 2 wont open on my pc.

 

[spintee]

Sorry I not read all, I went by previous threads, The wheels not rigged but has been stated by the Captain in other threads, The more the average bet the better the wheel prize, For small rollers its nothing special, If better higher than the mega spins would be nice, Which is fair, You cannot expect some one to grind away £40 on 20p bets and get the same prize as somebody depositing £400 on £2 bets,

I guess the higher up the better odds of a few more spins is involved, I will say there is nothing wrong with the site, It is a good site but I will say the concept is the same across more site I can think of, They just implemented it in a different way, To me its nothing new and nothing exiting, Its away to add abit of a theme to a site and to offer a little something to us players,

Not going to deny any free spins so any is better than 0, I will not mention other sites but many have a wheel or bar to next level and alot have a wger connected, Has Rizk? I not remember,

I do not think its false or misleading but it will not hurt to say the more you bet the bigger the prize

I had alot of skulls when it was there also

 

[geordiecolin]

I think quite simply that the OP's header should be changed because it is very misleading and is excessively derogatory towards what is simply one of the very best casino's with the best rep's that there is. I almost feel embarrassed on Rizk's behalf. I've no problem with folk asking the questions,but its presentation is important too.

I hope the header is changed.

 

[goatwack]

I think quite simply that the OP's header should be changed because it is very misleading and is excessively derogatory towards what is simply one of the very best casino's with the best rep's that there is. I almost feel embarrassed on Rizk's behalf. I've no problem with folk asking the questions,but its presentation is important too.

I hope the header is changed.

I do agree that the opening point could have slotted into the 'Wheel of Rizk' thread as most of the points raised relate to that. But as this thread is now in full swing and on par with current world problems, like with ISIS running rampant and economic turmoil, there's no turning back now!

I believe 'Rizk false advertising?' would have sufficed, no point in terming the phrase 'scammers' when they have done nothing but strive to implement our suggestions and are always looking to improve. Let's not forget the 'lock' facility

The wheel, although I have yet to see its full benefits, is a niche addition that perks up the rewards and still is a good idea, even if it could do with a slight revamp

 

[colinsunderland]

I think quite simply that the OP's header should be changed because it is very misleading and is excessively derogatory towards what is simply one of the very best casino's with the best rep's that there is. I almost feel embarrassed on Rizk's behalf. I've no problem with folk asking the questions,but its presentation is important too.

I hope the header is changed.

It wasn't when posted though, as the OP was told that all he could ever win was 5FS