World Cup 2018 World Cup 2018: Brazil vs Belgium

[pereblue]

I'm sure this will be a great Match, now France to the Semis, it's time for Brazil and Belgium

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My "Bet": Brazil 2 - Belgium 2. Overtime: 0-0, Penalties: Brazil 4 - Belgium -5

 

[robby811]

I'm sure this will be a great Match, now France to the Semis, it's time for Brazil and Belgium

+1

1:2 Belgium

 

[LadyJelena]

Regrettably, I think France is gonna win. That Mbappe kid is awesome!

 

[Welshy88]

C'mon Belgium .
Also if some one can give Neymar a good kicking that would be nice too.

 

[robby811]

I TOLD YAA BAAAAAAAAAAAM

 

[robby811]

Brazil is playing so bad

 

[goatwack]

I think Brazil are croaking again, probably got shown the 7-1 from four years ago by their coach, because Rocky wasn't available

Neymar- average, Coutinho- one trick pony (cut inside, right, right, curler) and even Jesus is average. Yes, bloody Jesus

Belgium are good but not great. Brazil lack impetus and are still crap at set-pieces!

So expect 3-1 final score.....

 

[paul7388]

Frances world cup

 

[goatwack]

Can Brazil do a 'Belgium'? Or will they do Belgium?

Stay tuned!

 

[robby811]

+1

1:2 Belgium

I m good

 

[Welshy88]

I m good

Hope you had money on it

 

[robby811]

No Way I only bet if i get a freebet somewhere otherwise only Slots

 

[mcgameboy]

Brilliant job by Belgium. Hazard, De Bruyne, Felliani and Lukaku were fantastic.

But Meunier misses the semi final against France.

 

[pinnit2014]

Preferred watching Brazil when Cafu played as a centre forward.

 

[goatwack]

Preferred watching Brazil when Cafu played as a centre forward.

Wasn't he right-back?

 

[pinnit2014]

Wasn't he right-back?

He was, and CB, but always bombed so far forward he was basically up front.

Being facetious to one of the last times when they were exciting to watch

 

[dunover]

OK, my view - IF it turned out to be a Belgium-England final of course I'd like to see us win it, but wouldn't be bothered at all if Belgium did. They are the only team to win 5/5 so far and have played football to get there, not the draw. A team that turns up and beats any team put in front of them deserves success. Any team won it before with no penalties, i.e. 7 straight wins?

 

[goatwack]

He was, and CB, but always bombed so far forward he was basically up front.

Being facetious to one of the last times when they were exciting to watch

That was of the Romario (quality), Ronaldo (the real one), Ronaldinho, Rivaldo era I recall, roundabout 94-98.

You're right, that was Brazil. This lot tonight were, and in the whole tournament, average really. Neymar isn't fit to be Ronaldo's tea-boy

Same as Germany now compared to not only four years ago, but teams of the past. Watching Klinsmann doing punditry I'd much rather stick the shirt on him, bet he'd score a few too. Has to be better than Mario 'Ohmiss' and co

 

[pinnit2014]

I don’t know what it is with them. If it’s their young players getting swooped up at an early age and taken to Europe and/or being over coached etc.

I preferred when they couldn’t understand they’d to defend and let in 5 every game. But scored 6.

Best thing about Neymar is usually his hair

 

[Gaz237]

OK, my view - IF it turned out to be a Belgium-England final of course I'd like to see us win it, but wouldn't be bothered at all if Belgium did. They are the only team to win 5/5 so far and have played football to get there, not the draw. A team that turns up and beats any team put in front of them deserves success. Any team won it before with no penalties, i.e. 7 straight wins?

I agree, apart from when they played England.

Both teams dropped 8 players and neither wanted to win.

We was just lucky that our 2nd string was more shite than there's.

 

[mcgameboy]

OK, my view - IF it turned out to be a Belgium-England final of course I'd like to see us win it, but wouldn't be bothered at all if Belgium did. They are the only team to win 5/5 so far and have played football to get there, not the draw. A team that turns up and beats any team put in front of them deserves success. Any team won it before with no penalties, i.e. 7 straight wins?

Pretty sure no one has done 7 straight wins, but I know that Brazil in 1970 had 6 wins out of 6 with no pens or extra time.

Off the top of my head, I know that....

England drew their first match in '66.

West Germany lost to East Germany in the group stage in '74.

Argentina drew with Brazil 0-0 in the second group stage, hence they knew how much they needed to beat Peru by in their last match in order to reach the final.

Italy famously drew all of their group games in '82.

Argentina drew with Italy in the group stage in '86. I think that was the only match where they trailed at any stage.

West Germany...well we know what they did in '90. But they also drew with Colombia in the group stage.

Brazil won the final on pens in '94

France won with a golden goal in round of 16 against Paraguay and on pens in the QF in '98.

Brazil....oh..now then.....maybe they did win 7 out of 7 in '02?

Italy won the final on pens in '06.

Spain lost their opener against SwitzVARland in '10.

Not at all sure about Germany in '14, even though it's the most recent.

 

[dunover]

Pretty sure no one has done 7 straight wins, but I know that Brazil in 1970 had 6 wins out of 6 with no pens or extra time.

Off the top of my head, I know that....

England drew their first match in '66.

West Germany lost to East Germany in the group stage in '74.

Argentina drew with Brazil 0-0 in the second group stage, hence they knew how much they needed to beat Peru by in their last match in order to reach the final.

Italy famously drew all of their group games in '82.

Argentina drew with Italy in the group stage in '86. I think that was the only match where they trailed at any stage.

West Germany...well we know what they did in '90. But they also drew with Colombia in the group stage.

Brazil won the final on pens in '94

France won with a golden goal in round of 16 against Paraguay and on pens in the QF in '98.

Brazil....oh..now then.....maybe they did win 7 out of 7 in '02?

Italy won the final on pens in '06.

Spain lost their opener against SwitzVARland in '10.

Not at all sure about Germany in '14, even though it's the most recent.

Yes, in the pre-expansion era 1970 I would count 6/6 as the same as 7/7 in the modern era. I remember Argentina needing to beat Peru by 4 or 5 goals in 1978 and they won 6-1, the biggest rigged game ever. 1982 always leaves a bitter taste - England won 3/3 group games including smashing a very good France side. They then managed to draw (somehow) with both Spain and Germany in the second group of 3, both of whom had lost a group game to Northern Ireland and Algeria respectively. So we went home unbeaten having conceded only 1 or 2 goals.

 

[steveh35]

This world cup has showed that egos no longer are the way to win the world cup, it seems that the more normal you are the further you will progress. Maybe Neymar, Ronaldo and co need to come off their lofty purchases and remember they are footballers not prima donnas. Harry Kane is the perfect example he is not a good looking prima donna he is a down to earth London boy who likes football.

 

[goatwack]

This world cup has showed that egos no longer are the way to win the world cup, it seems that the more normal you are the further you will progress. Maybe Neymar, Ronaldo and co need to come off their lofty purchases and remember they are footballers not prima donnas. Harry Kane is the perfect example he is not a good looking prima donna he is a down to earth London boy who likes football.

There was a recent discussion about this amongst ex-players, and all agreed that the best players in the world all have to have an ego to excel, and be the best at what they do. It's just that some show it outwardly more than others.

Make no mistake, Harry Kane has an ego to believe in himself. Not to mention the number of years he was in footballing limbo and constantly loaned out to other clubs, surplus to requirements. He could so easily be left plying his trade with Barnet if he'd given up, talent alone isn't enough. No one begrudges his perseverance to get to where he is today, that's for sure

Ronaldo may be a twat but he is actually the consummate professional, despite his playboy demeanour, and gives his last breath for club and country.

Neymar's still a cheating bellend though

 

[steveh35]

There was a recent discussion about this amongst ex-players, and all agreed that the best players in the world all have to have an ego to excel, and be the best at what they do. It's just that some show it outwardly more than others.

Make no mistake, Harry Kane has an ego to believe in himself. Not to mention the number of years he was in footballing limbo and constantly loaned out to other clubs, surplus to requirements. He could so easily be left plying his trade with Barnet if he'd given up, talent alone isn't enough. No one begrudges his perseverance to get to where he is today, that's for sure

Ronaldo may be a twat but he is actually the consummate professional, despite his playboy demeanour, and gives his last breath for club and country.

Neymar's still a cheating bellend though

The big egos of messi, ronaldo, neymar etc can't deal at country level with having to play with players who are not top class, Salah may not be prima donna but he must be pissed off that the other Egyptian players are not up to the standards of him and he has no chance of winning a world cup.

Belgium have a number of world class players who can work together Hazard, De Bruyne etc which is probably why they have progressed further.

 

[goatwack]

The big egos of messi, ronaldo, neymar etc can't deal at country level with having to play with players who are not top class, Salah may not be prima donna but he must be pissed off that the other Egyptian players are not up to the standards of him and he has no chance of winning a world cup.

Belgium have a number of world class players who can work together Hazard, De Bruyne etc which is probably why they have progressed further.

Yes, that's true. Although it's taken Belgium a good number of years to do this, a lot of these players have majorly flopped in tournaments before. I think a lot of credit goes to the manager for putting their egos in place and shifting attention on team ethic. They're due a win, and if not here then the Euros in two years, surely.

And Salah for sure he's frustrated. He's lost in that team, and it shows. Last I heard he considered quitting international football for the reason you mentioned

 

[mcgameboy]

Salah will just have to accept that the only tournament he can win while playing for his country is the African Nations Cup.

Yes, in the pre-expansion era 1970 I would count 6/6 as the same as 7/7 in the modern era. I remember Argentina needing to beat Peru by 4 or 5 goals in 1978 and they won 6-1, the biggest rigged game ever. 1982 always leaves a bitter taste - England won 3/3 group games including smashing a very good France side. They then managed to draw (somehow) with both Spain and Germany in the second group of 3, both of whom had lost a group game to Northern Ireland and Algeria respectively. So we went home unbeaten having conceded only 1 or 2 goals.

Yeah I think that England team in '82 probably felt the same way as the Brazilians in '78. Very hard done by, if not actually robbed. Although to be fair to the Brazilian team, once they failed to beat Argentina, they had no control of their own destiny. England on the other hand, did in '82. Because the Spain game was the last game in the group.
So they knew what would get them into the semis. Any two goal victory or a one goal victory that was 3-2 or higher. And that Spain team was actually crap.
How the hell it finished 0-0, well I have no idea. Keegan trying to score the best headed goal of all-time (and failing miserably) didn't help though.

I've never liked the idea of a second group stage, even one with four teams in each group (like they had in '74 and '78).
But the concept of a second group stage with only three teams in each group is just horrible.

FIFA finally got the format right in '86. But it took two scandals in '78 and '82 to help get them there.