3dice, reddice, and my personal opinion

[Kelly Jo]

If you play at 3dice.com, a visit to reddice.be might give you a start.
3dice.com's new platform looks very much like the reddice.be platform.

This is not news to some of us players at 3dice and we've been following this situation for some time now.
Most of us have looked the other way for the benefit of everyone involved, but when
the bullshit begins to outweigh the benefits... you know what will happen. Guess what? The bullshit is piling up.

I don't think that operation of 3Dice was expected to last this long after the transition and I am having a difficult time believing that continued operation of all sites is the goal.
When 3Dice started, it was illegal to operate an online gaming site in *Belgium. That has changed. Thus Reddice was born..the love child of Belgium's new gaming laws and 3Dice. Lou for short? ** Panache is (among other roles) a landbased casino in Belgium and owns the B+ license for Reddice.be. In order to hold a license for a Belgian online gaming site, the owners must also own a license for a land based casino.

There is the odd situation that involves the 3Dice's license and a blatant refusal to provide required link information. I have discussed this at length with Anna over the last couple years via email. In the end, she simply told me that the license was good and that if I wanted to verify it, I could travel my happy ass on over to Curacao to get it done. I didn't have to do that. With Bryan's help, I did manage to locate the license and can report that the license is legit. (I had a link to this but am having difficulty locating it. I will update with a source link as soon as I locate it.) So why would 3Dice not provide a link to it's license? Well? It can't. To do so would provide a direct link to another gaming jurisdiction and provide proof that the operators of reddice.be, with irrefutable ties to 3Dice.com, were operating outside of the legal Belgian jurisdiction.

***True Odds, the new face of Angle Gaming Labs (3Dice game developers), make no mention of 3Dice. As a long time 3Dice player, this one kinda hurt my feelings. But again... there can be no ties to 3dice, as it would verify operations outside of the Belgian jurisdiction.

So how is this going to be pulled off?

It's not. 3Dice is being sacrificed. 3Dice is getting shit canned. It's not a question of if, it's a question of when.

It would appear that the operators of 3Dice plan to get all they can from their loyal US players for as long as possible and then make a quick exit when the heat gets turned up by an unhappy player that finally realizes what is going on.

Okay. Fine. I'll be that player.

_|_ you, Enzo. _|_ you and the smoke you've blown up our collective asses. _|_ you and your sensitive nature at being called out over that ridiculous excuse for a timer and the numerous other coding issues that plague the "new" platform. _|_ you for the Janky VIP changes. _|_ you!


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[petro]

Hi Kelly,

Sorry, some of this I'm not following, I've been left out of the loop, so I don't know what's going on.

Yes the webpage design of red_dice does look very similar to the 3dice one.
What does that mean though?

What do you mean by this?
I don't think that operation of 3Dice was expected to last this long after the transition and I am having a difficult time believing that continued operation of all sites is the goal.
Do you mean after the transition to red_dice? (sorry if it's a stupid question.)

 

[Kelly Jo]

Hi Kelly,

Sorry, some of this I'm not following, I've been left out of the loop, so I don't know what's going on.

Yes the webpage design of red_dice does look very similar to the 3dice one.
What does that mean though?

What do you mean by this?
I don't think that operation of 3Dice was expected to last this long after the transition and I am having a difficult time believing that continued operation of all sites is the goal.
Do you mean after the transition to red_dice? (sorry if it's a stupid question.)

3dice transitioned from a download site to a flash site two months ago.



This image was captured by a fellow 3dice player. You will note at the bottom-- in red lettering--there is an automated chat message. A welcome greeting from red dice. To a new member of 3dice. WHOOPSIE!

This is one of the reasons that i believe that the operators at 3dice didnt intend for the site to remain operational. The platform belongs to True Odds Gaming. Most all of the games were set to reflect loss limit regulations according to Belgian gaming laws.

Regardless of their intent, it is illegal to operate any type of gambling forum outside of the Belgian jurisdiction. There is no way around this fact. Sure, there are ways to hide this in terms of transferring ownership, appointing new directors (this has been done, btw) etc... but the same folks are still present in the everyday operations, most notably, Enzo. We've been lied to at every turn. The entire gambling community. Long before Red dice was in the works, we were lied to. There are many more issues, to be sure, but I wanted to focus on only information that matters in the end. That being the legal issues.

 

[rena35]

Key i commend you for standing your ground if you see something you question or are not comfortable with.That being said the only part of this i understand is this part and i quote- It would appear that the operators of 3Dice plan to get all they can from their loyal US players for as long as possible and then make a quick exit when the heat gets turned up by an unhappy player that finally realizes what is going on.

Okay. Fine. I'll be that player.

_|_ you, Enzo. _|_ you and the smoke you've blown up our collective asses. _|_ you and your sensitive nature at being called out over that ridiculous excuse for a timer and the numerous other coding issues that plague the "new" platform. _|_ you for the Janky VIP ch

I can not claim to be a computer tech but i am not dumb when it come to things i see. Ignorance is bliss sometimes until a person points out what he or she sees as obvious and then it takes another person longer to catch on. I work hard for my money and sure the old; If you don't like it play else where line is rather old especially if one takes in account the time and money invested in a place. We would at least like a fair chance at ever seeing a small percent of that back (not saying 3 dice is not fair). Sometimes i as many of us do bite our tongues and hope for the best. I am a fighter by nature and very much outspoken when i feel something just aint right. After i was diagnosed with a crippling illness i could have just given up but i can not. It is not in me to roll over.Sometimes i wish i could just take back some things i say but after it is said it is pretty much out of your hands.

I wish i could comment on the tech side but i would be lying and making my very own tin foil hat if i attempted to. What i was told when i saw a post at a different forum is that they are not affiliated with Red dice. I also thought i saw where 3 dice game are unique to them but i could be wrong. I have been on the site because i am nosy(there i said it) and i saw how the games are almost identical. What that means i have no clue. I did play tut in free mode and i like the dice.

I have also been told my turn for a big win is coming . 5 yrs and it is still on its way.

Years past there would have been 4 pages long of comments to this thread by now. I am anxious to read what other people in the USA who knows what key is speaking of says good or bad. Maybe explain it in a way that us non tech peeps can understand. Until then all i can do is try to enjoy the perks of being a VIP, win a tournament and win from that win....Ahhhhh ignorance is bliss.




Just saw my name on your comment key after my comment speaking to Anna. Had to edit it to add that. Very strange indeed to see that just as you are posting lol.

 

[researcher]

If you play at 3dice.com, a visit to reddice.be might give you a start.
3dice.com's new platform looks very much like the reddice.be platform.

This is not news to some of us players at 3dice and we've been following this situation for some time now.
Most of us have looked the other way for the benefit of everyone involved, but when
the bullshit begins to outweigh the benefits... you know what will happen. Guess what? The bullshit is piling up.

I don't think that operation of 3Dice was expected to last this long after the transition and I am having a difficult time believing that continued operation of all sites is the goal.
When 3Dice started, it was illegal to operate an online gaming site in *Belgium. That has changed. Thus Reddice was born..the love child of Belgium's new gaming laws and 3Dice. Lou for short? ** Panache is (among other roles) a landbased casino in Belgium and owns the B+ license for Reddice.be. In order to hold a license for a Belgian online gaming site, the owners must also own a license for a land based casino.

There is the odd situation that involves the 3Dice's license and a blatant refusal to provide required link information. I have discussed this at length with Anna over the last couple years via email. In the end, she simply told me that the license was good and that if I wanted to verify it, I could travel my happy ass on over to Curacao to get it done. I didn't have to do that. With Bryan's help, I did manage to locate the license and can report that the license is legit. (I had a link to this but am having difficulty locating it. I will update with a source link as soon as I locate it.) So why would 3Dice not provide a link to it's license? Well? It can't. To do so would provide a direct link to another gaming jurisdiction and provide proof that the operators of reddice.be, with irrefutable ties to 3Dice.com, were operating outside of the legal Belgian jurisdiction.

***True Odds, the new face of Angle Gaming Labs (3Dice game developers), make no mention of 3Dice. As a long time 3Dice player, this one kinda hurt my feelings. But again... there can be no ties to 3dice, as it would verify operations outside of the Belgian jurisdiction.

So how is this going to be pulled off?

It's not. 3Dice is being sacrificed. 3Dice is getting shit canned. It's not a question of if, it's a question of when.

It would appear that the operators of 3Dice plan to get all they can from their loyal US players for as long as possible and then make a quick exit when the heat gets turned up by an unhappy player that finally realizes what is going on.

Okay. Fine. I'll be that player.

_|_ you, Enzo. _|_ you and the smoke you've blown up our collective asses. _|_ you and your sensitive nature at being called out over that ridiculous excuse for a timer and the numerous other coding issues that plague the "new" platform. _|_ you for the Janky VIP changes. _|_ you!


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Hello Kelly Jo,

I am making this account now because you have made this thread and I was made aware of it.

I am a researcher and i have been following 3dice casino for a very long time and i get and have had a lot of information about them over the years.

I will be detailing the information i have gathered for all to read. First of all let me first say yes I am on your side about this trueodds company that have somehow sold the rights to this platform to 3dice casino so that 3dice could retire their old client. Questions that will be asked and answered are included in this very long post.

So first point is Why did 3dice say they are in no way affiliated with reddice.be?
Answer: Because they have to for legal reasons! this does in no way mean that 3dice is not affiliated with reddice.be and to be fair the research i have done points me to the conclusion that the people who own 3dice probably do infact also own reddice.be and your right reddice does need to own a land based casino in order to operate in belgian.

This then brings me to the fact that i tested out reddice.be and you can not register from the USA, UK. But I tested you can register from Canada, Japan, Germany and probably others. Even though the laws in belgian strictly state that only belgians can play at reddice.be.

More detailed researched information finds that reddice servers are located in France, Ireland and the UK. So then you question the fact that how is this possible? when the UK and other countries can not operate, isnt it against the law to operate casino servers in countries that have strict gambling laws in place? If for example you can not register from the UK then why on earth can they have servers located in the UK for their site?

Ok so now lets talk about 3dice.

3dice has servers located in 4 parts of the world, Canada and Curacao. They then have servers located in europe too but the main 2 servers are the Canada and Curacao ones.

Further research also points out more info about this Enzo person. Who I did find out a name to which i will not publicize in this post or thread and please do not ask me to reveal that information because i am not here to do that style of post. I am here to merely point out some points and facts about 3dice and how it operates.

So more points about 3dice are these.

Why are they not getting a license from lets say Malta or alderney or UKGC for example?
Answer: Well after research i can strongly say that i believe the reason to this question is simple it is down to money and or the fact their games because they are owned by a company that probably the 3dice owners own and have full rights too. That they would not be able to pass the rigorous tests that go along with trying to obtain such a license in other jurisdictions and the fact they cost far much more money than the current Curacao license costs.

I can categorically say that the latter or both reasons above is true.

The fact that they use a Curacao license is enough and has been enough for a lot of players not to trust casinos that operate in Curacao and that is evident here at CM and at other gambling forums. because pretty much 95% of casinos that oiperate in Curacao are deemed to be rogue in nature.

I suspect also that who ever does own 3dice to which i do believe it is Enzo and he maybe has silent partners we do not know about. Also owns trueodds platform and also owns reddice.be, then that would also mean that they own a land based casino in belgian in order to comply and obtain that belgian license. Then another question is do the games get tested for fairness for them to have been able to obtain the belgian license, this I am not sure about. But if they was and they passed then maybe those versions was altered and edited so they was able to pass the fairness test. Afterall they do own the 3dice slots company that makes the 3dice and reddice games.

I mean it is not rocket science to think and compare the 2 different casinos. And not ask yourself why are they pretty much identical with just some minor visual differences and name changes to the games and the fact the slots at reddice have dices instead of the letters - 9/10/j/q/k/a.

So then my conclusion and closing statements.

I have also read many threads over the years about 3dice casino some good, some bad, And I am not denying that they was a decent casino that did have fast withdraws and also many other strong points going for them but the fact they will never try and obtain a license in other jurisdictions just makes me question their trustworthiness and it seems in order for them to operate in countries they want to target they are doing so by doing under the table deals and shady dealings that does not warrant them to be trustworthy.

One more point i forgot to mention is about their slots fairness. The fact that a casino owns or makes their own slots is always always alarm bells. That means usually 1 thing. They have the rights and power to be able to change them at any given time.

Now I am not saying they are rigged or can be rigged, but as i said they made them. So they can be altered when ever they want. This is enough for me to say i do not trust the games fairness.

And this is also probably why they do not even attempt to acquire a license in other jurisdictions as well, because they know their slots would not even get passed the first tests thrown at them. And also the money factor as well.

So lets all be clear here. 3dice also lost its accredited status at CM a while ago, I do not remember the reasons why they did lose their accreditation but if anyone would like to detail why they did would be greatful.

So my conclusion is Yes i strongly believe 3dice are operating in a shady way in many ways. They grandfather USA and UK players so they can still play at 3dice as well. (this again is illegal)

Now i will also say this final final point i nearly forgot about. I heard that when this new platform rolled into 3dice a few months ago that all accounts that was banned at the old 3dice for various reasons was then allowed to play at 3dice again in the new system.

I heard that Enzo "gave everyone a clean slate" And i can confirm that also that meant any accounts that was linked to fraud related reasons too was also allowed to play at 3dice again on the new platform. (so what does this say or mean about the trustworthiness) It means that they are shady, why on earth would any trustwrothy casino allow banned accounts who have committed fraud to be allowed back ever? they shouldnt ever ever ever.

Ok so that was my final staement, I have not given full details but just general details to the research i have done about 3dice.

Make of it what you will, But my conclusion is 3dice and its operations are shady and can not be trusted.

 

[ReggieMac]

Hello Kelly Jo,

I am making this account now because you have made this thread and I was made aware of it.

I am a researcher and i have been following 3dice casino for a very long time and i get and have had a lot of information about them over the years.

I will be detailing the information i have gathered for all to read. First of all let me first say yes I am on your side about this trueodds company that have somehow sold the rights to this platform to 3dice casino so that 3dice could retire their old client. Questions that will be asked and answered are included in this very long post.

So first point is Why did 3dice say they are in no way affiliated with reddice.be?
Answer: Because they have to for legal reasons! this does in no way mean that 3dice is not affiliated with reddice.be and to be fair the research i have done points me to the conclusion that the people who own 3dice probably do infact also own reddice.be and your right reddice does need to own a land based casino in order to operate in belgian.

This then brings me to the fact that i tested out reddice.be and you can not register from the USA, UK. But I tested you can register from Canada, Japan, Germany and probably others. Even though the laws in belgian strictly state that only belgians can play at reddice.be.

More detailed researched information finds that reddice servers are located in France, Ireland and the UK. So then you question the fact that how is this possible? when the UK and other countries can not operate, isnt it against the law to operate casino servers in countries that have strict gambling laws in place? If for example you can not register from the UK then why on earth can they have servers located in the UK for their site?

Ok so now lets talk about 3dice.

3dice has servers located in 4 parts of the world, Canada and Curacao. They then have servers located in europe too but the main 2 servers are the Canada and Curacao ones.

Further research also points out more info about this Enzo person. Who I did find out a name to which i will not publicize in this post or thread and please do not ask me to reveal that information because i am not here to do that style of post. I am here to merely point out some points and facts about 3dice and how it operates.

So more points about 3dice are these.

Why are they not getting a license from lets say Malta or alderney or UKGC for example?
Answer: Well after research i can strongly say that i believe the reason to this question is simple it is down to money and or the fact their games because they are owned by a company that probably the 3dice owners own and have full rights too. That they would not be able to pass the rigorous tests that go along with trying to obtain such a license in other jurisdictions and the fact they cost far much more money than the current Curacao license costs.

I can categorically say that the latter or both reasons above is true.

The fact that they use a Curacao license is enough and has been enough for a lot of players not to trust casinos that operate in Curacao and that is evident here at CM and at other gambling forums. because pretty much 95% of casinos that oiperate in Curacao are deemed to be rogue in nature.

I suspect also that who ever does own 3dice to which i do believe it is Enzo and he maybe has silent partners we do not know about. Also owns trueodds platform and also owns reddice.be, then that would also mean that they own a land based casino in belgian in order to comply and obtain that belgian license. Then another question is do the games get tested for fairness for them to have been able to obtain the belgian license, this I am not sure about. But if they was and they passed then maybe those versions was altered and edited so they was able to pass the fairness test. Afterall they do own the 3dice slots company that makes the 3dice and reddice games.

I mean it is not rocket science to think and compare the 2 different casinos. And not ask yourself why are they pretty much identical with just some minor visual differences and name changes to the games and the fact the slots at reddice have dices instead of the letters - 9/10/j/q/k/a.

So then my conclusion and closing statements.

I have also read many threads over the years about 3dice casino some good, some bad, And I am not denying that they was a decent casino that did have fast withdraws and also many other strong points going for them but the fact they will never try and obtain a license in other jurisdictions just makes me question their trustworthiness and it seems in order for them to operate in countries they want to target they are doing so by doing under the table deals and shady dealings that does not warrant them to be trustworthy.

One more point i forgot to mention is about their slots fairness. The fact that a casino owns or makes their own slots is always always alarm bells. That means usually 1 thing. They have the rights and power to be able to change them at any given time.

Now I am not saying they are rigged or can be rigged, but as i said they made them. So they can be altered when ever they want. This is enough for me to say i do not trust the games fairness.

And this is also probably why they do not even attempt to acquire a license in other jurisdictions as well, because they know their slots would not even get passed the first tests thrown at them. And also the money factor as well.

So lets all be clear here. 3dice also lost its accredited status at CM a while ago, I do not remember the reasons why they did lose their accreditation but if anyone would like to detail why they did would be greatful.

So my conclusion is Yes i strongly believe 3dice are operating in a shady way in many ways. They grandfather USA and UK players so they can still play at 3dice as well. (this again is illegal)

Now i will also say this final final point i nearly forgot about. I heard that when this new platform rolled into 3dice a few months ago that all accounts that was banned at the old 3dice for various reasons was then allowed to play at 3dice again in the new system.

I heard that Enzo "gave everyone a clean slate" And i can confirm that also that meant any accounts that was linked to fraud related reasons too was also allowed to play at 3dice again on the new platform. (so what does this say or mean about the trustworthiness) It means that they are shady, why on earth would any trustwrothy casino allow banned accounts who have committed fraud to be allowed back ever? they shouldnt ever ever ever.

Ok so that was my final staement, I have not given full details but just general details to the research i have done about 3dice.

Make of it what you will, But my conclusion is 3dice and its operations are shady and can not be trusted.

This is a very informative post, seems you have done your homework. Thank you for sharing this information.

 

[researcher]

This is a very informative post, seems you have done your homework. Thank you for sharing this information.

You are welcome.

Can i also add that I have now aquired an image that further shows that reddice.be are infact allowing players in other countries to play at reddice.be.

Image below:



it is the message that says: ik woon in frankrijk nu xafke. Tranlated too - (I live in France now xafke)

So maybe that means they used to live in belgian. But either way they should still not be allowing that user to play anymore if they moved to france. Cos it goes against the belgian laws.

It seems they are breaking the belgian laws by even allowing them to play there!!!!!!

 

[Redbush54]

If you play at 3dice.com, a visit to reddice.be might give you a start.
3dice.com's new platform looks very much like the reddice.be platform.

This is not news to some of us players at 3dice and we've been following this situation for some time now.
Most of us have looked the other way for the benefit of everyone involved, but when
the bullshit begins to outweigh the benefits... you know what will happen. Guess what? The bullshit is piling up.

I don't think that operation of 3Dice was expected to last this long after the transition and I am having a difficult time believing that continued operation of all sites is the goal.
When 3Dice started, it was illegal to operate an online gaming site in *Belgium. That has changed. Thus Reddice was born..the love child of Belgium's new gaming laws and 3Dice. Lou for short? ** Panache is (among other roles) a landbased casino in Belgium and owns the B+ license for Reddice.be. In order to hold a license for a Belgian online gaming site, the owners must also own a license for a land based casino.

There is the odd situation that involves the 3Dice's license and a blatant refusal to provide required link information. I have discussed this at length with Anna over the last couple years via email. In the end, she simply told me that the license was good and that if I wanted to verify it, I could travel my happy ass on over to Curacao to get it done. I didn't have to do that. With Bryan's help, I did manage to locate the license and can report that the license is legit. (I had a link to this but am having difficulty locating it. I will update with a source link as soon as I locate it.) So why would 3Dice not provide a link to it's license? Well? It can't. To do so would provide a direct link to another gaming jurisdiction and provide proof that the operators of reddice.be, with irrefutable ties to 3Dice.com, were operating outside of the legal Belgian jurisdiction.

***True Odds, the new face of Angle Gaming Labs (3Dice game developers), make no mention of 3Dice. As a long time 3Dice player, this one kinda hurt my feelings. But again... there can be no ties to 3dice, as it would verify operations outside of the Belgian jurisdiction.

So how is this going to be pulled off?

It's not. 3Dice is being sacrificed. 3Dice is getting shit canned. It's not a question of if, it's a question of when.

It would appear that the operators of 3Dice plan to get all they can from their loyal US players for as long as possible and then make a quick exit when the heat gets turned up by an unhappy player that finally realizes what is going on.

Okay. Fine. I'll be that player.

_|_ you, Enzo. _|_ you and the smoke you've blown up our collective asses. _|_ you and your sensitive nature at being called out over that ridiculous excuse for a timer and the numerous other coding issues that plague the "new" platform. _|_ you for the Janky VIP changes. _|_ you!


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I don’t understand what the beef is. The same software is used by numerous brands across the board. Once that brand launches most of the glitches are found once it goes live. So it said Reddice at the bottom…….who frickin cares?

I guess you’ll also be posting about the numerous brands that are using the RTG software, the Microgaming software, etc, etc, etc because they surely must be screwing their players to make a buck and surely will be closing soon.

I personally hope that you are banned for life from 3Dice. You are nothing but a bully and a “shit stirrer” when you are there and to even say "] _|_ you, Enzo. _|_ you and the smoke you've blown up our collective asses. _|_ you and your sensitive nature at being called out over that ridiculous excuse for a timer and the numerous other coding issues that plague the "new" platform. _|_ you for the Janky VIP changes. _|_ you!

 

[DreamRJ]

I wasn't going to post in this thread, but I just wanted to say, I like playing at 3dice and I noticed this thread last night when CM was having some issues.

But i do not want to get involved in this thread. I will just be a silent reader. But in light of the evidence that has been posted i am not going to take any sides in this matter. I am staying impartial.

Hence also why i am not liking or thanking any posts in this thread.

 

[Tengil]

Why are they not getting a license from lets say Malta or alderney or UKGC for example?
Answer: Well after research i can strongly say that i believe the reason to this question is simple it is down to money and or the fact their games because they are owned by a company that probably the 3dice owners own and have full rights too. That they would not be able to pass the rigorous tests that go along with trying to obtain such a license in other jurisdictions and the fact they cost far much more money than the current Curacao license costs.

I can categorically say that the latter or both reasons above is true.

This part by itself shows that your so called research is worthless. You really couldn't think of the reason why they don't apply for the licenses you mentioned?

 

[rena35]

I wasn't going to post in this thread, but I just wanted to say, I like playing at 3dice and I noticed this thread last night when CM was having some issues.

But i do not want to get involved in this thread. I will just be a silent reader. But in light of the evidence that has been posted i am not going to take any sides in this matter. I am staying impartial.

Hence also why i am not liking or thanking any posts in this thread.

You are very smart RJ. Wish i would have not posted because i re read my post and just to be clear so no mis understandings. I don't know squat about tech talk at all. I am not back paddling because there is nothing to back paddle about. I had hoped my first post would make it clear enough that i have no idea what all of the things posted mean. I do stick to the fact that key had the courage to post what she believes is something wrong(why i thanked the post). As far as agree of disagree i can't because i don't understand what she is saying is wrong. The comment about Anna saying they are not affiliated i have to believe her. She has always been up front and honest with me even when i was depositing beyond my usual and she pmd me to make sure i was ok. I told her about my new job and assured her i was ok. The comment i made, i did not realize it could be taken to heart. Not something many casinos would do. As for me i won't be posting in this thread again. I am sure 3 dice will address this in due time. In the mean time i will go play what ever tournament i can until my nap time. I wish everyone good luck.

 

[researcher]

This part by itself shows that your so called research is worthless. You really couldn't think of the reason why they don't apply for the licenses you mentioned?

You wanted some evidence.

Ok here is some evidence on the money side of things.

This is in regards to a UKGC license.


"As such they have set up and tasked the UK Gambling Commission with overseeing the licensing and regulation of any site based in the UK
and any site offering their services to UK players are required to obtain a gambling license from the commission if they wish to be a legally
recognised gambling site within the UK, and that license will also let them advertise their offerings to customers based in Great Britain as a whole."

There are many benefits of be had by sticking to gambling only at sites that have been fully licensed in the UK by the UK Gambling Commissioner,
however there are several additional things you can do to ensure you will never have cause for concern when gambling at sites offering games of skill
or chance and this is to make sure the sites you choose to gamble at have fair games tested by a third party games testing company.

There are several companies who offer such a service including eCOGRA, iTech Labs, Gaming Associates, GLI Europe BV,
GLI Test Labs Canada ULC, NMI Metrology & Gaming Ltd, BMM Compliance and SQS India Info systems PVT Ltd.

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Then below is links and snippets on fees for the Curacoa license:

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The Curaçao Online E-Gaming Business Package is available for an initial set up cost of only US $19,800 including everything outlined above
as well as the first years Curacao eGaming License Fee and Annual Data Host Fee for database hosting on island (Compliance requirement in Curacao).

So let me note that Curacoa license are the easiest to get hold off and cheapest as well. Because they are not regulated properly at all. Anyone could get one of those license. And i mean anyone.

As far the point you made about evidence about slot fairness, well that is of course speculation. But i have heard and had information that says that there is a lot of coincidences when people win and lose in 3dice over the years. And in light of that those coincidences are in no way 1 time event, they happen very often indeed. The only way for the fairness to be fully accounted for is if we get detailed report by 3dice that they show that their games have been tested fairly by a reputable slot testing company listed above.

At the moment there is no information in any of their terms or legal notices that state that their games have been tested in the new platform which is law they have to display such certificates so people can easily see them. On the old 3dice website there was infact a display of a very old certificate dated from 2012. but that was all they had. i am sorry but how can a certificate from 2012 still hold ground now in 2017?

I hope this answers your post.

 

[3Dice]

Hi guys,

I'm currently in Amsterdam at the AAC.. I'll respond later today. In the mean time all tin foil hats are on me.

Enzo

 

[weesie]

I don’t understand what the beef is. The same software is used by numerous brands across the board. Once that brand launches most of the glitches are found once it goes live. So it said Reddice at the bottom…….who frickin cares?

I guess you’ll also be posting about the numerous brands that are using the RTG software, the Microgaming software, etc, etc, etc because they surely must be screwing their players to make a buck and surely will be closing soon.

I personally hope that you are banned for life from 3Dice. You are nothing but a bully and a “shit stirrer” when you are there and to even say "] _|_ you, Enzo. _|_ you and the smoke you've blown up our collective asses. _|_ you and your sensitive nature at being called out over that ridiculous excuse for a timer and the numerous other coding issues that plague the "new" platform. _|_ you for the Janky VIP changes. _|_ you!

Couldn't have said it better!

 

[Tengil]

You wanted some evidence.

Ok here is some evidence on the money side of things.

This is in regards to a UKGC license.


"As such they have set up and tasked the UK Gambling Commission with overseeing the licensing and regulation of any site based in the UK
and any site offering their services to UK players are required to obtain a gambling license from the commission if they wish to be a legally
recognised gambling site within the UK, and that license will also let them advertise their offerings to customers based in Great Britain as a whole."

There are many benefits of be had by sticking to gambling only at sites that have been fully licensed in the UK by the UK Gambling Commissioner,
however there are several additional things you can do to ensure you will never have cause for concern when gambling at sites offering games of skill
or chance and this is to make sure the sites you choose to gamble at have fair games tested by a third party games testing company.

There are several companies who offer such a service including eCOGRA, iTech Labs, Gaming Associates, GLI Europe BV,
GLI Test Labs Canada ULC, NMI Metrology & Gaming Ltd, BMM Compliance and SQS India Info systems PVT Ltd.

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Then below is links and snippets on fees for the Curacoa license:

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The Curaçao Online E-Gaming Business Package is available for an initial set up cost of only US $19,800 including everything outlined above
as well as the first years Curacao eGaming License Fee and Annual Data Host Fee for database hosting on island (Compliance requirement in Curacao).

So let me note that Curacoa license are the easiest to get hold off and cheapest as well. Because they are not regulated properly at all. Anyone could get one of those license. And i mean anyone.

As far the point you made about evidence about slot fairness, well that is of course speculation. But i have heard and had information that says that there is a lot of coincidences when people win and lose in 3dice over the years. And in light of that those coincidences are in no way 1 time event, they happen very often indeed. The only way for the fairness to be fully accounted for is if we get detailed report by 3dice that they show that their games have been tested fairly by a reputable slot testing company listed above.

At the moment there is no information in any of their terms or legal notices that state that their games have been tested in the new platform which is law they have to display such certificates so people can easily see them. On the old 3dice website there was infact a display of a very old certificate dated from 2012. but that was all they had. i am sorry but how can a certificate from 2012 still hold ground now in 2017?

I hope this answers your post.

Well it seems you just don't get it.

From which country does the largest part of their players come? And how does for example UKGC view it if a casino allows players from that country?

 

[blonde]

This thread is of the WOW factor, to say the least! First off, if there are questions left unanswered then why play 3Dice for years? This never made any sense to me to be honest.
How many casino groups or casinos use the same software? Does this mean they are rogue? No, they are not! There are several that are on the accredited list. How many online casinos cater to USA players? 3Dice isn’t the only one, those too are illegal, right?

How is 3Dice rogue? Cashouts have always been paid, and faster than any other online casinos. (do your research) or is it that they are supposedly rogue because your rtp isn’t what you think it should be?

To be honest, the accusations are being thrown around by disgruntled players that aren’t getting their way. There have been several former 3Dice players who have started threads as of this one in the past.

One thing I think 3Dice should do with the new platform is get rid of the option for ‘guest’ players to visit the platform. Old players are showing their face to troll around, why? To gather more info, for whatever reason.

We all get upset when we get on a losing streak, this is gambling! We all bitch and moan, but to go as far to throw such accusations as the above mentioned is really out there.
I guess I missed Enzo’s promises that are now, according to some players lies? Just because there are no CPS, or rankings? Grow up!

 

[3Dice]

Hi Kelly Jo,

It has been brought to my attention that you are worried about 3Dice closing down. Let me put your mind at ease on that one - there are no such plans whatsoever. In fact, we've just gone through an immense amount of work upgrading our platform to prepare for at least another decade of signature 3Dice entertainment. (past that - no promises ). And while we are indeed no longer the exclusive casino for true/odds (ex angle gaming labs) games, I do believe 3Dice has always had more things going for it than just game exclusivity.

So really, no reason for worries, paranoia, or going off on crazy tangents .. 3Dice is here to stay.

Enzo

 

[LHofsdal]

I read this thread last night and wanted to think about it for a bit before I posted anything.

I have never kept it a secret that I have a love/hate relationship with 3dice. I love the employees, most of the players and hate the dreadful month after month losing streaks lol. It's gambling, we all know that losing streaks are going to happen, it's a given.

I only stopped playing there because of the lack of deposit options. I won't use bitcoin, don't understand it really. Trust me when I say I have heard it all about this place, from quite a few players questioning fairness, how the same people are constantly winning huge and how "it is odd" that certain players will always hit big when down to their last few bucks. My reply is the always the same, "it's called gambling". My husband on the other hand has a totally different take on 3dice. But that is him.

What I don't understand, if you are that unhappy with 3dice, why go back? Move on, it is really that simple. I can't blame Enzo for wanting to expand his business, most business owners do that. So he expanded his business without letting anyone know, is that a crime? No, it isn't.

The bottom line is, if you think Enzo and the 3dice staff are doing shaddy stuff, DON'T GO BACK! If you have that much distrust in them stay away. Don't go back trying to "gather information" because once your thought process gets cloudy with "they are lying to everyone" you're not going to see anything else any way. You're always going to think they are lying to you even when they are aren't. It is a no win situation for you with that mind set.

Did they lose accreditation..yes, but doesn't make them less trust worthy to me. I still trust them and if I could deposit there I would. In my honest opinion I think the OP needs to take a step back and cool off, and apologize. Those accusations are pretty strong and unless you know everything as fact and not fiction then stand your ground. But as of right now, it looks more like fiction to me.

LH

 

[Kelly Jo]

Hi Kelly Jo,

It has been brought to my attention that you are worried about 3Dice closing down. Let me put your mind at ease on that one - there are no such plans whatsoever. In fact, we've just gone through an immense amount of work upgrading our platform to prepare for at least another decade of signature 3Dice entertainment. (past that - no promises ). And while we are indeed no longer the exclusive casino for true/odds (ex angle gaming labs) games, I do believe 3Dice has always had more things going for it than just game exclusivity.

So really, no reason for worries, paranoia, or going off on crazy tangents .. 3Dice is here to stay.

Enzo

Always smoke. No substance.

 

[Kelly Jo]

Simple questions

Enzo,

Do you own and/or operate reddice.be?
Do you own and/or operate Panache?
Do you own and/or operate 3dice.com?
Do you own and'or operate panache.be?

If your answer is yes to any of these questions, can you say that you are unequivocally following Belgian Gaming laws?

Why is the gaming license for 3dice not linked with the Curacao Validation site?
Why did the link to the True Odds web site dissappear days after the transition?
Why do you have a portion in the chat rules dedicated to the topic of shills?
Why did you provide payment processing options to some players, and none to others in the last year and a half?


I think that is a good start. Should be simple enough to answer, right?

 

[petro]

So lets all be clear here. 3dice also lost its accredited status at CM a while ago, I do not remember the reasons why they did lose their accreditation but if anyone would like to detail why they did would be greatful.

You can read about why 3dice lost their accreditation here: https://sussexmskpartnershipeast.com/forums/threads/3dice-us-players-whats-up-with-slow-no-pay.72102/

 

[3Dice]

You can read about why 3dice lost their accreditation here: https://sussexmskpartnershipeast.com/forums/threads/3dice-us-players-whats-up-with-slow-no-pay.72102/

Hi petro,

The complaint in question has been resolved ( and that is not the reason why 3dice is no longer accredited on CM).

You can check see I have responded this issue before - there was no question of no pay, it was a question of changing processors at the time and having a delay . 3dice has always paid its winners and will always do so.

Best Regards,
Anna

 

[Kelly Jo]

Enzo,

Do you own and/or operate reddice.be?
Do you own and/or operate Panache?
Do you own and/or operate 3dice.com?
Do you own and'or operate panache.be?

If your answer is yes to any of these questions, can you say that you are unequivocally following Belgian Gaming laws?

Why is the gaming license for 3dice not linked with the Curacao Validation site?
Why did the link to the True Odds web site dissappear days after the transition?
Why do you have a portion in the chat rules dedicated to the topic of shills?
Why did you provide payment processing options to some players, and none to others in the last year and a half?


I think that is a good start. Should be simple enough to answer, right?

I'd hate for this post to get lost due to it's position on the previous page so I am bumping it into view.

Also...
I'd like to add another question based on the following information:

I apologize. I may have been mistaken about locating the license. This is the license I found. You will find it under Danmar Invest.

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I do have correspondence with Curacao EGaming in which they informed me that 3dice.com was not licensed but when discussing this with Bryan, he had me focus on searching for a sub license and this was the result.


Is this the 3dice license?

 

[3Dice]

Hi Kelly Jo,

While I really don't see the point in having this discussion in public, (seems more like pm material to me), I'll indulge ..

Do you own and/or operate reddice.be?
Do you own and/or operate Panache?
Do you own and/or operate 3dice.com?
Do you own and'or operate panache.be?

The answer to all is no. Both Curacao and Belgium licenses require corporate ownership and to answer the follow up question, no I don't own any of those companies either.

If your answer is yes to any of these questions, can you say that you are unequivocally following Belgian Gaming laws?

In Belgium, it is not the operator but the gambling commission that decides whether or not a player is allowed to signup and/or play. (it is called the EPIS system, players get checked by the government server on each login).

Why is the gaming license for 3dice not linked with the Curacao Validation site?

Must be an oversight - we've just switched to a whole new platform - I'll have it looked into. Feel free to contact curacao e-gaming to verify that in the mean time.

Why did the link to the True Odds web site dissappear days after the transition?

uhm not sure what you are talking about .. there's a clear link to true odds in the about section. (

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Why do you have a portion in the chat rules dedicated to the topic of shills?

Oh that dates back at least 5 years. At some point we had a problem with some shady affiliates that tried to use the 3Dice chat to promote their brands.

Why did you provide payment processing options to some players, and none to others in the last year and a half?

That's normal operation. It has to do with risk assessment, processor specific requirements, and our choice (unlike most other operators) to disable deposits instead of delaying withdraws. (when we accept your deposit - we guarantee a smooth withdraw).

If you have any further questions, I'll happily answer them in pm. (I have some myself - for example what have we done to justify such an agressive original post? - or how have I ever blown smoke? - or what would make you a happy player?)

Enzo

 

[petro]

Hi petro,

The complaint in question has been resolved ( and that is not the reason why 3dice is no longer accredited on CM).

I never said that was the reason why you guys aren't accredited anymore.

Maybe I should be more specific.
You can read the reason why 3dice aren't accredited in that thread.

 

[researcher]

Hi Kelly Jo,

While I really don't see the point in having this discussion in public, (seems more like pm material to me), I'll indulge ..



The answer to all is no. Both Curacao and Belgium licenses require corporate ownership and to answer the follow up question, no I don't own any of those companies either.



In Belgium, it is not the operator but the gambling commission that decides whether or not a player is allowed to signup and/or play. (it is called the EPIS system, players get checked by the government server on each login).



Must be an oversight - we've just switched to a whole new platform - I'll have it looked into. Feel free to contact curacao e-gaming to verify that in the mean time.



uhm not sure what you are talking about .. there's a clear link to true odds in the about section. (

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)



Oh that dates back at least 5 years. At some point we had a problem with some shady affiliates that tried to use the 3Dice chat to promote their brands.



That's normal operation. It has to do with risk assessment, processor specific requirements, and our choice (unlike most other operators) to disable deposits instead of delaying withdraws. (when we accept your deposit - we guarantee a smooth withdraw).

If you have any further questions, I'll happily answer them in pm. (I have some myself - for example what have we done to justify such an agressive original post? - or how have I ever blown smoke? - or what would make you a happy player?)

Enzo

@Enzo - So just as i thought would be the case the research i done and posted here has been ignored and not even a single reply to any of the research i did expose at this shady place?

So will you be answering any of the points i made?

Why is reddice allowing players outside of Belgian to play their?

The fact you say that you do not own all those casinos as kelly jo asked is baffling to me. I was sure that you was the owner of 3dice. So your now saying you dont even own them?

So whos was that name i came across when i was doing research that is linked to the Danmar Investment group?

And also this dome casino outfit as well doesnt make any sense. So there is other casinos in the Danmar Investment group as well? The dome casino website was not found gave me an error, but i found there was a german casino called dome casino but that was a land based joint.

So I would appreciate it if you could actually respond to my posts i made and answer all my points individually like you did with kelly jo's post please!?!?

Thanks

researcher

 

[3Dice]

@Enzo - So just as i thought would be the case the research i done and posted here has been ignored and not even a single reply to any of the research i did expose at this shady place?

"Researcher",

I don't see why I should respond to a post that is clearly just an attempted attack at 3Dice, has no real questions, is aggressive, and made by someone who for some reason didn't want to use his regular CM account.

So will you be answering any of the points i made?

I already have, in fact many in the very post you quoted.

Why is reddice allowing players outside of Belgian to play their?

As posted above - it takes about 5 minutes of actual research to find out that in Belgium it is the gambling commission itself and not the operator that makes that decision. (the operator sends ID info to a server of the commission that then grants a player token - or not).

The fact you say that you do not own all those casinos as kelly jo asked is baffling to me. I was sure that you was the owner of 3dice. So your now saying you dont even own them?

well, you were wrong.

So whos was that name i came across when i was doing research that is linked to the Danmar Investment group?

I'm sure the director of Danmar Investment group is publicly listed.

And also this dome casino outfit as well doesnt make any sense. So there is other casinos in the Danmar Investment group as well? The dome casino website was not found gave me an error, but i found there was a german casino called dome casino but that was a land based joint.

That was the working title of 3Dice but never used publicly. That must be some very outdated info you have btw - haven't heard that in well over a decade.

So I would appreciate it if you could actually respond to my posts i made and answer all my points individually like you did with kelly jo's post please!?!?

Thanks

researcher

I would appreciate some answers to - with this thread in America the beautiful, it is not visible to a guest visitor. That in turn means you've read it using your normal CM account before you created this new account. So why would you not post this on your regular account ? (I also believe that that is against CM policies).

Enzo

 

[me_and_ed]

I actually find this whole thing quite offensive and for what reason? I do not play at 3Dice that often but have had an account since day 1, I have always been paid promptly and completely trust them, UIGEA changed the face of online gaming for most of the operators, especially US facing, there were and still is lots of smoke.

Maybe a poll should be created for the so called "shady" casino on who has not been paid there rightful winnings from 3Dice and maybe Max can pipe up on how many PABs were not satisfactorily resolved, I would be willing to bet those numbers are very low if any.

 

[Kelly Jo]

Hi Kelly Jo,

While I really don't see the point in having this discussion in public, (seems more like pm material to me), I'll indulge ..



The answer to all is no. Both Curacao and Belgium licenses require corporate ownership and to answer the follow up question, no I don't own any of those companies either.



In Belgium, it is not the operator but the gambling commission that decides whether or not a player is allowed to signup and/or play. (it is called the EPIS system, players get checked by the government server on each login).



Must be an oversight - we've just switched to a whole new platform - I'll have it looked into. Feel free to contact curacao e-gaming to verify that in the mean time.



uhm not sure what you are talking about .. there's a clear link to true odds in the about section. (

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)



Oh that dates back at least 5 years. At some point we had a problem with some shady affiliates that tried to use the 3Dice chat to promote their brands.



That's normal operation. It has to do with risk assessment, processor specific requirements, and our choice (unlike most other operators) to disable deposits instead of delaying withdraws. (when we accept your deposit - we guarantee a smooth withdraw).

If you have any further questions, I'll happily answer them in pm. (I have some myself - for example what have we done to justify such an agressive original post? - or how have I ever blown smoke? - or what would make you a happy player?)

Enzo

You could sell a ketchup Popsicle in hell to a woman wearing white but you can not handle the complexity of an "and/or" inquiry. Your habit of redirecting with vague or incomplete responses and the reliably condescending sign off gets old. I do agree with you, though. This is beyond my personal knowledge base and experience. In the spirt of humility and higher learning, I will simply defer to the professionals.

Edit: I read your reply to my post in an email notification and did not see the edit until I posted my response. I appreciate your closing remark edit.

 

[3Dice]

You could sell a ketchup Popsicle in hell to a woman wearing white but you can not handle the complexity of an "and/or" inquiry. Your habit of redirecting with vague or incomplete responses and the reliably condescending sign off gets old.

Hmm vague as in telling someone who just tried to answer all your questions that he missed something but not specifying what ? And condescending ? As in calling someone a snake oil salesman simply because he answers your questions ? Or more condescending and vague as in calling a casino shady and using swear words on a public forum, and then backing out when asked to substantiate ?

I wouldn't want to appear to be any of those things - I'll try to work on that.

Enzo.

 

[dpp00]

hi all

first i dont play at 3dice at all (may have givin them a spin yrs ago when they were on the accredited list) but i was just reading this post,

im not sure where its goin i mean a couple of the you have posted loads of questions and from what ive read all of them have been answered pretty thoroughly,

to me its looking pretty much more like a grudge, unless im missing something but anyway just my 2 penny's worth.

 

[Kelly Jo]

Hmm vague as in telling someone who just tried to answer all your questions that he missed something but not specifying what ? And condescending ? As in calling someone a snake oil salesman simply because he answers your questions ? Or more condescending and vague as in calling a casino shady and using swear words on a public forum, and then backing out when asked to substantiate ?

I wouldn't want to appear to be any of those things - I'll try to work on that.

Enzo.

You did answer with regard to ownership. You did no respond specifically to the question of operations.

I never said shady.

I said _|_ you! It is not swearing. It is symbolism. It is direct and to the point. Nothing condescending about that.

 

[Savatage79]

My only input is it's a bummer there's no other ways for me to deposit outside of bitcoin, so even tho I joined up sadly I probably won't be back, I'm just not into bitcoin and that scene at all.

 

[nisosbar]

This is all silliness, IMO. I love 3Dice and their support team, and the games, but I treat my relationship with them as a one-night stand. You walk in, do your business, and go home, end of story. Unless you both get something of value from the relationship, then you hook up again. Rinse repeat.

I get the notion of trust, but I've been playing there on and off for years, and have NEVER had a complaint that related to any violation of trust. The games are fair, I have good runs and bad runs, and I always get paid and more promptly than anywhere else.

I'm not sure what else there is to say here really. I don't understand what specifically is the dispute, as nothing about the accusations is a set of circumstances which are unique to 3Dice...?

 

[X-Raided]

Kelly Jo, this post was truly uncalled for. You and your WWF tag-team buddy "researcher" tried to
blatantly attack 3Dice/Enzo and their ethics on a public forum and got outmaneuvered by Enzo's deep intellect
and professionalism.

Look at how many "likes" or "thanks" you received versus Enzo's posts. It's pretty clear that 3Dice has a strong
following and has never burnt any of their players.

Enzo's question still remains.. What has he or 3Dice done lately to you personally to deserve this type of harsh
and unprofessional treatment?

 

[DreamRJ]

I just wanted to say i have now shown which side i am on by giving the thanks and likes and i can tell you 100% i am on 3dices side. They are an awesome establishment.

And i rest my case. Kudos to Enzo for his great posts

P.S: Can't wait for the ISS and new slot coming soon

 

[Kelly Jo]

Enzo's question still remains.. What has he or 3Dice done lately to you personally to deserve this type of harsh
and unprofessional treatment?

No, X-raided. MY questions still remain. They haven't been answered. Do you read what is posted or do you simply make judgments according to the number of likes a post receives?

 

[Tirilej]

No, X-raided. MY questions still remain. They haven't been answered. Do you read what is posted or do you simply make judgments according to the number of likes a post receives?

Enzo told you that if you had any further questions you could send him a pm.
I suggest you do that. The rest of us isn't that interested. Besides in this world of casinos you should have learned by now that it's a matter of trust. If you don't feel you can trust a place, then simply don't play there. No need to try and tarnish their reputation.

You've done your best to make them look like bad guys, for what reason I don't know. You did not succeed.
I hope you feel better soon, and happy belated birthday

 

[X-Raided]

Actually, your hate-filled questions appear to have been answered..

I'm 100% satisfied with Enzo's explanations and have yet to see anyone but you and
"researcher" question Enzo's responses/integrity.

The people who thought they knew you on 3Dice chat are questioning where this
viciousness arose from. Some say that it's an "I lost" rant and some are questioning your
mental stability.

My advice is to publicly apologize for the hardcore flaming and attempted name tarnishing
of 3Dice on CM. 3Dice is NOT losing any support. Players simply don't care about your sleuthing
bologna.

 

[Kelly Jo]

I just wanted to say i have now shown which side i am on by giving the thanks and likes and i can tell you 100% i am on 3dices side. They are an awesome establishment.

And i rest my case. Kudos to Enzo for his great posts

P.S: Can't wait for the ISS and new slot coming soon

You JUST said you weren't going to post on threads I posted in. I STARTED this thread. SMH.

If I were Enzo, you'd be the last person I'd want to take it upon themselves to act as an advocate. I'm not Enzo, obviously. I AM,however, a gambler and I'd bet the farm that you were "researcher."

 

[Kelly Jo]

Actually, your hate-filled questions appear to have been answered..

Validate that.


These are my "hate filled questions."

Do you own and/or operate reddice.be?
Do you own and/or operate Panache?
Do you own and/or operate 3dice.com?
Do you own and'or operate panache.be?

If your answer is yes to any of these questions, can you say that you are unequivocally following Belgian Gaming laws?

Why is the gaming license for 3dice not linked with the Curacao Validation site?
Why did the link to the True Odds web site disappear days after the transition?
Why do you have a portion in the chat rules dedicated to the topic of shills?
Why did you provide payment processing options to some players, and none to others in the last year and a half?

**********************************************************

He skipped over the question of operations.

He stated it was an oversight on the link to the license? Has that been remedied? Where is the license? Can we just get this over with. It's over TWO years now that I'v been waiting for this simple request to see a valid license.

The link did disappear for the TrueOdds site. If it is back, that is reassuring.

I accept his answer with regard to shills. It sounds reasonable enough.

You are okay with his statement that it is standard to select a few players to receive payment processing services while the majority of the players do not?
That's a funny way to say "highrollers are my preferred processor."

 

[Kelly Jo]

d happy belated birthday

Thanks, Tirilej!

 

[X-Raided]

You are okay with his statement that it is standard to select a few players to receive payment processing services while the majority of the players do not?
That's a funny way to say "highrollers are my preferred processor."

Big spenders get VIP treatment.. just like in any brick and mortar casino.

Kelly Jo, just give it a rest girl. Either be the 47 year old that you are and apologize like a grown up
and let it rest, or just let it rest without an apology, move on and ask a moderator that this thread be closed.

Be smart about this.

 

[Karen Simmons]

SO YOU

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, get over yourself!

 

[Kelly Jo]

Big spenders get VIP treatment.. just like in any brick and mortar casino.

Kelly Jo, just give it a rest girl. Either be the 46 year old that you are and apologize like a grown up
and let it rest, or just let it rest without an apology, move on and ask a moderator that this thread be closed.

Be smart about this.

Payment processors are required to operate a casino. When did this become a VIP perk? I'm not sure why you feel the need to advise me to give it a rest. I simply responded to your post. I hadn't re-visited this thread until you and DreamRJ addressed me. I'm 48 by the way.

 

[Karen Simmons]

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, get over yourself!

1 I dont care if you like me. 2 I dont care if you like me!

1 I dont care if you like me. 2 I dont care if you like me!

Same thing I told you when I got your nuts ,stalker,crazy private message on 3 dice! Now I bet YOU will respond with some stupid thing, saying I am somehow a kiss butt, or have connections or ties to 3dice. 1, if you dont like a casino........................DONT GO THERE! 2 If you dont like a casino...........DONT GO THERE! Its really simple. YOU Kelly make it a DRAMA! Get a life away from GAMBLING! I feel sorry for you hun!

Same thing I told you when I got your nuts ,stalker,crazy private message on 3 dice! Now I bet YOU will respond with some stupid thing, saying I am somehow a kiss butt, or have connections or ties to 3dice. 1, if you dont like a casino........................DONT GO THERE! 2 If you dont like a casino...........DONT GO THERE! Its really simple. YOU Kelly make it a DRAMA! Get a life away from GAMBLING! I feel sorry for you hun!

Here will come a 5 paragraph rant, she cant control herself!

 

[The Dude]

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Here will come a 5 paragraph rant, she cant control herself!

Please control yourself, and don't harass your fellow members. Any further violations of the forum rules will be dealt with accordingly. Thank you.

Thread closed until I finish reading this.

 

[The Dude]

_|_ you, Enzo. _|_ you and the smoke you've blown up our collective asses. _|_ you and your sensitive nature at being called out over that ridiculous excuse for a timer and the numerous other coding issues that plague the "new" platform. _|_ you for the Janky VIP changes. _|_ you!

C'mon - really? Did you have to resort to flaming? When you bring in the insults, it pretty much negates your argument. "_|_" means eff you IMO, and that is not only uncool, but violates our community rules on flaming and harassing one another. You are a valued member here and I would not have expected this from you. Infraction received.

As for the rest, I enjoy in-depth research just like the next Joe, but when people resort to making assumptions and accusations from it, then that is not cool either.

This is online gambling. Most companies, especially the smaller operations, do not want the public to know who they are not because of something nefarious, but because they want to protect themselves (and their families) from disgruntled angry losers. Some operators fear for their employees well-being and security. It's hard to run an operation when receiving threats from players. I am sure Enzo can confirm this - I know most operators can - Max and I have received the same sort of threats. So there are times that real names aren't used etc. That's nothing to get riled over about.

I want to remind everyone that we need to watch the accusations and finger pointing. Thanks!

 

[Kelly Jo]

C'mon - really? Did you have to resort to flaming? When you bring in the insults, it pretty much negates your argument. "_|_" means eff you IMO, and that is not only uncool, but violates our community rules on flaming and harassing one another. You are a valued member here and I would not have expected this from you. Infraction received.

As for the rest, I enjoy in-depth research just like the next Joe, but when people resort to making assumptions and accusations from it, then that is not cool either.

This is online gambling. Most companies, especially the smaller operations, do not want the public to know who they are not because of something nefarious, but because they want to protect themselves (and their families) from disgruntled angry losers. Some operators fear for their employees well-being and security. It's hard to run an operation when receiving threats from players. I am sure Enzo can confirm this - I know most operators can - Max and I have received the same sort of threats. So there are times that real names aren't used etc. That's nothing to get riled over about.

I want to remind everyone that we need to watch the accusations and finger pointing. Thanks!

I earned that one, because that was my intended message. The personal nature of the relationship between 3Dice players and staff has a way of making, I'll speak for myself, an individual more emotional and reactionary when issues arise. For that, I apologize. If it negates the validity of the questions I put forth then that is on me. That is a real shame because the fact remains that basic information with regard to valid licensing, payment processors, and even a possible conflict between two separate licensing jurisdictions are specifics that everyone should be concerned with.

 

[ReggieMac]

I earned that one, because that was my intended message. The personal nature of the relationship between 3Dice players and staff has a way of making, I'll speak for myself, an individual more emotional and reactionary when issues arise. For that, I apologize. If it negates the validity of the questions I put forth then that is on me. That is a real shame because the fact remains that basic information with regard to valid licensing, payment processors, and even a possible conflict between two separate licensing jurisdictions are specifics that everyone should be concerned with.

I must say I personally make decisions on where I spend my money on ease of access to such basic information.