Bet365 live roulette cheating

[George020474]

I have lost huge amount of money last week at BET365 online roulette, it could be ok if they were fair and honest but they not.
I have noticed that every time courpier spins pics are freeze a second then get different picture that I look like missed few seconds then number come up most times you can hardly see which number as because screen covered by usual roulette layouts ,you never see where the ball is or where the drop, so my most experince that I have win few times that they cheated and they didn't pay me because they pronounced different number , here is i win number 11 and I seen only 1 second that im sure was number 11 ,but they said number 10 , even courpier said number 11 but stoped half way while saying then changed strait away saying number 10 , they cleared away table and so on as cant complain to nobody , after that happened on number 4 then they said number 2 as you can't see what number is ball into , and another winning taking by 36 my number but they cheated said 34.
Im fuming that I can't prove all those , im %1000 percent sure that they cheating every way , freeze ups ,covers,all kind off playbacks etc , is there any1 want to go ahead with me because i will take this matter further , TV , BBC, newspaper , Parliament whatever takes me , i have lost so much on cheating doggy BET365 but im no pushover neither stupid.
Thanks.

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[George020474]

Is there any1 go ahead with me and set up equipment camera and recorder etc and take them to do court and get compensation with me ?

 

[neilw]

Sorry for your losses.

If you believe they are cheating you, the first thing is to stop playing there.

Gather your evidence, witnesses, documentation, and contact the UK Gambling Commission to see how you can take this forward.

Playtech provides the live games for Bet365, everything in the studio is recorded on two separate feeds, so it's possible for your play sessions to be replayed. If you have your own recordings then they can be compared. Any discrepancies are bound to be obvious.

If the UKGC choose not to act then I suppose you could take out a private prosecution. This could be expensive though, so I'd seek some legal advice before moving forward -- this will also be costly.

If you chose to approach the BBC or your local MP I'd advise having all your evidence already prepared, as that will be the first thing anyone will want to see.

I guess it depends on how much you've lost and how much you're willing to spend to recover it.

I wish you luck, please do let us know how you get on.

 

[George020474]

Sorry for your losses.

If you believe they are cheating you, the first thing is to stop playing there.

Gather your evidence, witnesses, documentation, and contact the UK Gambling Commission to see how you can take this forward.

Playtech provides the live games for Bet365, everything in the studio is recorded on two separate feeds, so it's possible for your play sessions to be replayed. If you have your own recordings then they can be compared. Any discrepancies are bound to be obvious.

If the UKGC choose not to act then I suppose you could take out a private prosecution. This could be expensive though, so I'd seek some legal advice before moving forward -- this will also be costly.

If you chose to approach the BBC or your local MP I'd advise having all your evidence already prepared, as that will be the first thing anyone will want to see.

I guess it depends on how much you've lost and how much you're willing to spend to recover it.

I wish you luck, please do let us know how you get on.

Thank you for reply and advice , i will try sort my evidence, i seen the cheat with my own eyes and heard from courpier announced my number but cut it off and change to different number , that was enough evidence i guess.thank you

 

[neon claws]

i seen the cheat with my own eyes and heard from courpier announced my number but cut it off and change to different number , that was enough evidence i guess.

Suuuure it is.

 

[lewisnadasurf]

Good luck to you.

Just to set expectations for you it is 99.99999% (likely 100%) certain that Bet365 or Playtech have not cheated.

A. They’re massive, do you think they’d risk their whole licence for a few quid won on roulette?
B. They’re massive

 

[George020474]

Good luck to you.

Just to set expectations for you it is 99.99999% (likely 100%) certain that Bet365 or Playtech have not cheated.

A. They’re massive, do you think they’d risk their whole licence for a few quid won on roulette?
B. They’re massive

You sound like you work for them !!!

 

[neon claws]

You sound like you work for them !!!

You sound like an idiot.

 

[George020474]

You sound like an idiot.

It's easy to talk from there where ever you are ,i wish i know you

 

[lewisnadasurf]

You sound like you work for them !!!

no, but I work for GVC.

and to think any of the major UK players would risk their billion quid turnover just to flease a few players on roulette (when they offer about 2000 other products) is just naive.

 

[George020474]

no, but I work for GVC.

and to think any of the major UK players would risk their billion quid turnover just to flease a few players on roulette (when they offer about 2000 other products) is just naive.

So tell me why they are refusing to send me 2 minutes of the video to proof of who is right ,who is wrong ?????

 

[lewisnadasurf]

So tell me why they are refusing to send me 2 minutes of the video to proof of who is right ,who is wrong ?????

Where is your evidence of this, please?

 

[George020474]

Where is your evidence of this, please?

If i had a video evidence i wouldnt be here am I ? Or i wouldnt ask them to send me video , but i seen my own eyes and heard my own ears !!!

 

[lewisnadasurf]

If i had a video evidence i wouldnt be here am I ? Or i wouldnt ask them to send me video , but i seen my own eyes and heard my own ears !!!

no.Not that.
The evidence they refused?

 

[George020474]

If i had a video evidence i wouldnt be here am I ? Or i wouldnt ask them to send me video , but i seen my own eyes and heard my own ears !!!

Im looking forward to meet yous all casino workers in future of my life to talk these matters face to face

no.Not that.
The evidence they refused?

What you on about ???
I claimed my number come up and they said no ! (number 11 , they claimed number 10 )
Read my article!!!!

 

[aceking123]

I have lost huge amount of money last week at BET365 online roulette, it could be ok if they were fair and honest but they not.
I have noticed that every time courpier spins pics are freeze a second then get different picture that I look like missed few seconds then number come up most times you can hardly see which number as because screen covered by usual roulette layouts ,you never see where the ball is or where the drop, so my most experince that I have win few times that they cheated and they didn't pay me because they pronounced different number , here is i win number 11 and I seen only 1 second that im sure was number 11 ,but they said number 10 , even courpier said number 11 but stoped half way while saying then changed strait away saying number 10 , they cleared away table and so on as cant complain to nobody , after that happened on number 4 then they said number 2 as you can't see what number is ball into , and another winning taking by 36 my number but they cheated said 34.
Im fuming that I can't prove all those , im %1000 percent sure that they cheating every way , freeze ups ,covers,all kind off playbacks etc , is there any1 want to go ahead with me because i will take this matter further , TV , BBC, newspaper , Parliament whatever takes me , i have lost so much on cheating doggy BET365 but im no pushover neither stupid.
Thanks.

Hi how much you lost ? & how many spins in that session or over the week did you make?

 

[lewisnadasurf]

Im looking forward to meet yous all casino workers in future of my life to talk these matters face to face
What you on about ???
I claimed my number come up and they said no ! (number 11 , they claimed number 10 )
Read my article!!!!

You’ve come here and said literally 5 posts ago they’ve refused to give you the video youve requested.

ive asked you where is the evidence of this rejection? Do you have an email? A chat log? DNA evidence?

 

[neon claws]

The fact that you claim anyone not on board with your paranoid ravings really speaks to the veracity of your claims.
Anyway, there's a thread for this nonsense, it's immediately above this one.

 

[George020474]

You’ve come here and said literally 5 posts ago they’ve refused to give you the video youve requested.

ive asked you where is the evidence of this rejection? Do you have an email? A chat log? DNA evidence?

 

[George020474]

Following a review of your account, I can see that this bet was correctly settled as lost given that the winning number was 10. We also took the time to complete a more in-depth review with our technical team and I can confirm that, in the previous round. the winning number was 24 - for which you obtain returns of £126 -, and the subsequent number (after 10) was 28.

This three results match the ones dealer announced at the time. I would like to call your attention to the fact that when you place bet 54122738424, dealer made an announcement of the hot numbers which were 18,11,21 and 23.

Afterwards, when 10 dropped this same dealer announced that the payout for the street bet was 11:1. Considering your comments with the advisor, over the telephone, I believe you may be referring to this situation and mistakenly considered that he was speaking of the winning number as opposed to the payout.

As such, I can confirm that no issues have been found with your bet and I am not looking into crediting any additional funds.

 

[George020474]

Following a review of your account, I can see that this bet was correctly settled as lost given that the winning number was 10. We also took the time to complete a more in-depth review with our technical team and I can confirm that, in the previous round. the winning number was 24 - for which you obtain returns of £126 -, and the subsequent number (after 10) was 28.

This three results match the ones dealer announced at the time. I would like to call your attention to the fact that when you place bet 54122738424, dealer made an announcement of the hot numbers which were 18,11,21 and 23.

Afterwards, when 10 dropped this same dealer announced that the payout for the street bet was 11:1. Considering your comments with the advisor, over the telephone, I believe you may be referring to this situation and mistakenly considered that he was speaking of the winning number as opposed to the payout.

As such, I can confirm that no issues have been found with your bet and I am not looking into crediting any additional funds.

They saying Dealer announced hot numbers they said ,what a excuse and joke, when ball drops dealer announced the winning number not the hot numbers !@@@@

 

[George020474]

Hi how much you lost ? & how many spins in that session or over the week did you make?

£ 2500 , in 3 hours

 

[aceking123]

£ 2500 , in 3 hours
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Any screen black outs, glitches in camera when viewing or any suttle pauses ?

 

[George020474]

When i do big bets about over 50 pound screen gone dodgy , little freeze up and gone dark and says my bet excepted, then table come up ball all ready turnning , then you see ball drops in 1 second then all screen cover up with next game , so you cant see the table and ball where was it , so all you have to do is trust the company !!!

 

[George020474]

When i do big bets about over 50 pound screen gone dodgy , little freeze up and gone dark and says my bet excepted, then table come up ball all ready turnning , then you see ball drops in 1 second then all screen cover up with next game , so you cant see the table and ball where was it , so all you have to do is trust the company !!!

But when i do small bets , nothing dodgy happens ,all clear ,and dealer anounce numbers very clearly seems fair roll until I do big bet !!!

 

[neon claws]

If you are so certain then there are hundreds of freely available screen recording softwares out there. Get proof. Actual proof, it should be trivial to do since you're 1000% certain right?

Except here's what would happen; you'd record a bit of lag or skipping on the video, maybe the video connection will break up or slow down/speed up or the ball will "bounce funny" or jump from one number to another not in your favour and you'll say "ah-ha! See!!??" And we'll say "no not really", you'll then accuse us of working for the casino (which we all do, by the way- we're all in on this scam and absolutely no one has ever gone to the media about it) just to fleece you in particular out of your $2500 in three hours even though there's people betting ten times that in a single spin regularly and the system is already designed to favour the house invariably anyway.

Or you can admit what really happened; you lost because of your own actions.

 

[ESCJAMIE]

When i do big bets about over 50 pound screen gone dodgy , little freeze up and gone dark and says my bet excepted, then table come up ball all ready turnning , then you see ball drops in 1 second then all screen cover up with next game , so you cant see the table and ball where was it , so all you have to do is trust the company !!!

Why would you carry on doing "big" bets if this was happening, why not move to another table?

 

[neon claws]

Why would you carry on doing "big" bets if this was happening, why not move to another table?

What, you think only one croupier is against him? They're all in on it.

Also, if they were going to cheat people why would they do it so ineptly? If you were going to take the collosaly foolish risk of cheating your customers you would make damn sure you do it right, not by placing a piece of cardboard over the camera and whispering to the croupier to say a different number...

This kind of self denial really gets me, I'm trying to be civil but every single time this comes up it's the exact same type of person complaining; quick to anger, irrational, self-assured and completely lacking of any actual proof even though it would be trivial to acquire.

 

[aceking123]

Why would you carry on doing "big" bets if this was happening, why not move to another table?

Doesn't seem to matter what table your playing it's almost like roulette gods can place the ball, the reason I'm interested is because of my own research on it, online live games,table games have a very uncanny way of not hitting your numbers, glitches, pauses black outs, this happens mainly on playtech games.
Evolution gaming does suttle little pauses & the timing can be miles out, I've lost 17 bets on the trot covering 17 numbers there's unlucky & being unlucky this tends to happen with progressive betting until your bust, followed by your big bet placed coming in straight after you've not placed a bet, I've now lost count of how much this happens.

 

[neon claws]

followed by your big bet placed coming in straight after you've not placed a bet

Why would they do that man.. just to piss you off?
It's the same rationale as the slot players bemoaning when the symbol they needed on the previous spin drops in, it happens only sometimes but you only notice it when it does.

 

[George020474]

Why would you carry on doing "big" bets if this was happening, why not move to another table?

They only have 1 table !!!
I closed my account with them now ,

 

[aceking123]

I doubt very much its live that's why, my guess its controlled clever video feed, something isn't right about live games that's for sure.

 

[ESCJAMIE]

They only have 1 table !!!
I closed my account with them now ,

Sorry but there are 100s of tables online you can play at any you want you didnt have to stay on that table, if you truly thought you was being fucked over, Why did you keep betting??

 

[George020474]

I thought this site 4 supporting betting company victims but seems like full of cowards who works for them !!!

 

[aceking123]

Bet 365 has more than a few tables,its run by playtech

 

[neon claws]

They only have 1 table !!!
I closed my account with them now ,

Oh no, now how will you get your evidence to take to the supreme court/president?
Guess maybe it's easier if you just go on letting yourself believe you were swindled rather than check huh?

 

[George020474]

I doubt very much its live that's why, my guess its controlled clever video feed, something isn't right about live games that's for sure.

Yes deffo , but listen here is in this site lots of cowards who works 4 those companies , they are responding my article and my messages with rude and making fun out me , keyboard warriors !!!

 

[neon claws]

I thought this site 4 supporting betting company victims but seems like full of cowards who works for them !!!

Yep, we are all in on it, this goes all the way to the top. Cease your investigations.

 

[George020474]

Bet 365 has more than a few tables,its run by playtech

Are you sure? There was always 1 table ,that must be why they connect me with dodgy table , i hate them !!!

 

[George020474]

Are you sure? There was always 1 table ,that must be why they connect me with dodgy table , i hate them with passion !!!

 

[George020474]

Is there any group of people here who wants stick together and go against with these robbers , we can write a letter to BBC and Parliament MP , who ever we can reach out ?

 

[George020474]

I'm planning to write letter to channel 4-5 , ITV and BBC next week , im I'm willing to be play in part if they making any documentary like they did slot machines in bookies !!!

 

[dunover]

Yes deffo , but listen here is in this site lots of cowards who works 4 those companies , they are responding my article and my messages with rude and making fun out me , keyboard warriors !!!

You really need to cut out this disrespectful paranoid crap - now.
You were given your answer from Bet365, if you're not happy with it you can use IBAS or their dispute resolution service.
Nobody here works for Bet365, they are just trying to tell you their opinions, which if disagreeing with your fixation you then accuse of being biased.

One more insult or trolling post and your membership here will be the same as your last £50 bet - lost.

 

[dealer wins]

Why dont you record the roulette table on 2 screens side by side. One where you are signed in, playing, and the other of the same table with the regular video where you are just a viewer not signed in to their site. You will instantly be able to prove your cheating theory once the 1st rigged number switch occurs on your video but not the other one.

 

[George020474]

You really need to cut out this disrespectful paranoid crap - now.
You were given your answer from Bet365, if you're not happy with it you can use IBAS or their dispute resolution service.
Nobody here works for Bet365, they are just trying to tell you their opinions, which if disagreeing with your fixation you then accuse of being biased.

One more insult or trolling post and your membership here will be the same as your last £50 bet - lost.

Don't give me crap , you work 4 them aswell , it was £2500 not 50 ,
There is few people here victim and real person like me , and rest of it who desegree with me and telling me paranoid like you are working 4 those gambling companies simple !!!

 

[George020474]

Don't give me crap , you work 4 them aswell , it was £2500 not 50 ,
There is few people here victim and real person like me , and rest of it who desegree with me and telling me paranoid like you are working 4 those gambling companies simple !!!

I did contact with IBAS , and on its way, and i will go further i can possible !!!

 

[George020474]

Why dont you record the roulette table on 2 screens side by side. One where you are signed in, playing, and the other of the same table with the regular video where you are just a viewer not signed in to their site. You will instantly be able to prove your cheating theory once the 1st rigged number switch occurs on your video but not the other one.

I will set up on a smart tv and set up video camera yes i will do it soon !!!

 

[ESCJAMIE]

Don't give me crap , you work 4 them aswell , it was £2500 not 50 ,
There is few people here victim and real person like me , and rest of it who desegree with me and telling me paranoid like you are working 4 those gambling companies simple !!!

Yeah dunover 100% works for Bet365,

Just a little edit, I was being sarcastic if that wasn't already apparent

 

[Playford7]

You really need to cut out this disrespectful paranoid crap - now.
You were given your answer from Bet365, if you're not happy with it you can use IBAS or their dispute resolution service.
Nobody here works for Bet365, they are just trying to tell you their opinions, which if disagreeing with your fixation you then accuse of being biased.

One more insult or trolling post and your membership here will be the same as your last £50 bet - lost.

Aww leave him be, he’s great!..

 

[SpinUk]

I just lost £50 on 40p spins on Bonanza. Can you add my complaint to the pile? I’ve got a sneaky suspicion they are all linked.