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Censorship and the "Mob" Mentality

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What Is Your Definition Of Censorship?

The definition of censorship is when a person or group takes it upon him/her/themselves to dictate the morality of others by examining books, film, etc. to make sure there is nothing "objectionable" in them. If anything is found, it will not be allowed.

I'd much rather tolerate them than silence them, for the simple reason that I don't want to be silenced myself. If we start telling people what they can and can't say, silencing "unacceptable" opinions or beliefs.....

What is your definition of censorship?
Would you rather tolerate someone you don’t agree with, on the principle that you each mutually tolerate each other despite disagreeing, or do you try to do what you can to silence them? What do you think of people who find censorship oppressive only when it is their own ideas/thoughts/opinions that are being oppressed?

What would you do if you lost your voice?

Censorship is when anything a person might say, see, hear, or write is subject to control by another.


Mob Mentality?

men·tal·i·ty   /mɛnˈtælɪti/ Show Spelled[men-tal-i-tee] Show IPA
–noun,plural-ties.
1.mental capacity or endowment: a person of average mentality.
2.the set of one's mind; view; outlook: a liberal mentality.

Mob definition at Dictionary.com, directed at or reflecting the lowest intellectual level of the common people: mob appeal; the mob mentality. ... to attack in a riotous mob: The crowd mobbed the consulate.


Pot Stirrer


Pot Stirrer - A person who feels it necessary to try and create more drama in regards to a situation/arguement/debate in which they are an outside observer. Usually by way of a comment or statement.


Criticism

Negative Criticism vs. Constructive Criticism

Knowing the difference between negative criticism and positive criticism can help you in all walks of life. The ability to tell constructive criticism from negative criticism is a life skill, so let’s get to figuring it out! Generally speaking, it’s like the difference between counseling somebody and yelling at them.

Constructive criticism promotes improvement or development, and negative criticism is pretty much the opposite of it. It’s rather easy to sum up negative criticism, as compared with constructive criticism. That’s because negative criticism is pretty much a cop out. A negative critique can be hammered out in a couple of minutes, while a constructive critique is a labor of love.

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All of the above has been pulled from the internet definitions. This is only to give everyone hear the understanding that all these things that some of us are referred to as, fit as well those who use these things to undermine us.

There are more than one type of mob mentality on this forum, but the one type only wants to have the other one seen. I, even when reading the posts of those who object to our right to speak and voice our feelings or experiences, never think of them as being intellectually lower nor feel the need to constantly criticise them.

However, when your criticism and censorship has pushed us into a corner, it is only natural to want to stand up and fight back rather than cower like a dog that has suffered long term abuse.

Constantly trying to censor your fellow forum members, is an effort in futillity as we who want to hold to our last bits of freedoms, will only let our voices be the last thing we let go of.

Constant censorship of posters that don't think like another poster can stagnate a forum where there is no interest left other than announcements and reviews with no input from anyone. If we are to bend at knee to the pressure of being censored, then what have you actually accomplished?
Possibly the death of a free, within reason public forum? Is this really what you are seeking?

I have noticed, unless threads really get out of hand, Bryan and the Moderators never come in and beat up forum members. There are many times they may participate or critic something, but they do it in a constructive way that is not demeaning to anyone unless they are deserving of more than a slap on the back of the hand. But that is for them to do because this is their forum that we are all privileged to be a part of.

As for the thank you button, somewhere I had read one of the moderators stating it has been used and abused as an "FU" button, which is not cool and I feel the same goes for the Nominate button. Members ruin the meaning of it when it too is used as an "FU" button rather than truly nominating a post that is deserving and appreciated by all.

I hope we all can reflect on this that we and even me, can learn from this and just try to be a little kinder and a little more understanding for your fellow forum members.
 
Jeez Louise, Mavin!

I am not wanting to "censor" you or gang up on you, but, come on!!! This is a gambling forum, not en ezeboard, feel good, all is sunshine and lollipops type of place. Your post makes me want to go out and get drunk or gamble my mortgage payment away!

Way over this old gal's head.

No offense, I am just stating my view on this post. :p
 
I think you are taking things too personally.

You (general you) will ALWAYS have people in real life or internet life who don't agree with you/like you/like the way you type/hate that you spell wrong/can't get facts straight/etc...(oops, I started talking about myself and the things I do wrong :D)

What you believe happens here, happens everywhere, no one is ever going to get along all the time, it's a fact of real life and a fact of internet life.

I think if you feel some of these things are happening to you or someone else here, my best advice would be ignore the people that make you feel this way, stay talking to the cool people that you like (me :D) and go about your merry way, because it will never change, no matter how hard you want it to.
 

Hell Just Play,

It is hard to ignore those that keep sticking their asses out to get kicked. There are a lot of cool people here but they won't have anything to do with me! :D

Oh wait, I guess you were talking to Mavin? Nevermind!
 





This makes me want a coke while im gambling or reading this gambling forum:)


Laurie
 
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Nothing wrong with freedom of speech...but it is a right that should be handled responsibly, reasonably and in an adult fashion.

Unfortunately, that isn't always the case and the right (or privelege - you choose) is occasionally abused by those who want to sell something, or get a kick out of being weird or aggressive or bullying or using offensive language or complaining or....you get the picture.

Hence the need for moderators, which in CM-land tend to be very light handed in my experience.

Would we all like to live in some idealistic Utopia where everything was fair and lovely and noone takes advantage or is dishonest or nasty etc etc....actually that might be quite boring!
 
What Is Your Definition Of Censorship?

My definition of censorship is when ***** **** can't ****. And then **** ***** *** *** so I **** **** **********. Jesus I hate **** **** *********** ***. But you can't even ****** **** ******* ** so ***** **** ***.

Mob Mentality?

When all of the voices in my head get together and go mental.

Pot Stirrer

A stick with a bowl shaped end. (Also used for scooping.)

Criticism

General comments or descriptions of pretty much everything I see.

Negative Criticism vs. Constructive Criticism

Negative - The opposite of criticizing. I do this with a sarcastic tone.

Constructive. Building up to an insult using criticism.

I'm going to add Mavin as a friend. She gives me reasons to post. :)
 
Mavin said:
Constructive criticism promotes improvement or development, and negative criticism is pretty much the opposite of it. It’s rather easy to sum up negative criticism, as compared with constructive criticism. That’s because negative criticism is pretty much a cop out. A negative critique can be hammered out in a couple of minutes, while a constructive critique is a labor of love.

That bit is worth highlighting for sure. :thumbsup: There's way too much criticism which isn't constructive on most message boards.
 
I didn't join this forum to be liked. And I really don't care who likes me or not. I'm here to get great information from peoples experiences and the like. Sometimes it gets personal, don't sweat the small stuff. There are alot other serious things going on in this world.


I wasn't going to address this thread anymore but will say this and let it go.

I understand what you are saying Veg, we don't join to be liked, we join to interact, participate and gain knowledge, from and with others and finding friends along the way is just a plus.

But the problem with not sweating the little stuff, this is why there is the big stuff, because to many of us keep letting things go, slip by, becasue it's small stuff and not worth dealing with or to minimal to worry about. But when enough of the little stuff accumulates, then we have the serious issues like we see in the world today. All things start on small levels over a great deal of time, this is how issues, events, cost of things, loss of freedoms, loss of life do become serious issues, but usually by the time we are able to recognize this, then it is already to late to change things.

When we can't even treat one another with decency, respect and the benefit of the doubt then what good are we when it comes to the serious things going on in this world. Again, that is why there are serious things going on, because we are so blinded by our on conceit, selfishness, ego's, want for things, emotional callousness, that the world can go to hell in a handbasket and no one will care until it is in their neighborhood.

So yeah, I do get it, despite what some may think and yeah, I stick my ass out there, but that is the type of person I am, I do not live in fear of what some think of me or my ideas.

So have fun everyone and thanks for your time, sharing, support from many of you. My time here has been interesting to say least and there are some really great people that I have enjoyed debating and participating with and reading your posts. Actually I will continue to check out the posts, that's kind of hard to go cold turkey on.

So Peace and Love for those who can still relate!
 
I wasn't going to address this thread anymore but will say this and let it go.

But........you put that big old post out there....do you not want it debated and discussed? If not, then what was the point, if you are just going to walk away from it? :what:


So yeah, I do get it, despite what some may think and yeah, I stick my ass out there, but that is the type of person I am, I do not live in fear of what some think of me or my ideas.

RE: the direct quote above.....(sticking your ass out there), that is something all of us do at times and you are defending that right in that statement, but yet the original post in this thread you seem to be saying let's all be one big happy family and get along and keep your mouth shut if you disagree or else you'll be branded mob-like or a troll.
Mavin........I'm confused as to what the point of this is and what seems to be conflicting posts, is anyone else?


 
RE: the direct quote above.....(sticking your ass out there), that is something all of us do at times and you are defending that right in that statement, but yet the original post in this thread you seem to be saying let's all be one big happy family and get along and keep your mouth shut if you disagree or else you'll be branded mob-like or a troll.
Mavin........I'm confused as to what the point of this is and what seems to be conflicting posts, is anyone else?



No BB I don't believe that is what she meant at all.

And my opinion:

I think there are some people on here who have decided it is ALRIGHT to be rude, snarky - inconsiderate - hostile - flippant and negative.

They cannot be positive unless they are providing each other a HIGH FIVE (thank you) after being snarky with others.

They do not approach things in a calm, constructive manner - instead tearing down anything, anyone that they choose.

Instead of having benign discussions - they choose to promote, provide and demonstrate the very epitome of:

DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA
or
DRAMA LLAMAs

Or

SCREW YOU - YOU'RE NOT IN OUR CLUB...

Or

THE HATERS

Trust me - I've been burned by it and I happen to be a VERY SENSITIVE person..

AND I DO care if people I've known for years like me or not.

And I DO notice the BS.

What Mavin is saying - in my own opinion:

Freaking start acting like responsible adults who are responsible for your own posting behavior.
 
Is this about the ferret nipple wart guy? (sorry Mavin but that makes me laugh....what a visual)

Quick story...once I was in this ferocious argument with a friend of mine, the volume's getting really loud and I'm yelling and swearing and he's getting really pissed off and he yells, "You know Cindy...sometimes you can be such a...DINK" and I'm like "yeah well....." and then I got the giggles - then burst into uncontrollable laughter, I had tears squirting out of my eyes, I couldn't catch my breath. He's looking at me like I'm mental and I gasp out..."Did you just call me a DINK?"

:lolup: That still cracks me up.

Anyhoo, back to Mavin's thing - I thought he got time out and that was over....? I don't think there was anyone who didn't think he was WAY outta line there. Or did I miss something?
 



Chayton, as for the nipple wart guy, he is only part of the reason. He gives the extreme example of how not knowing how to deal with your own emotions gets out of control. But he is not the big picture here, other posters that are also untactful are teetering on borderline assinine behavior such as the nipple wart guy.
There is nthing wrong with having your own opinion, or dissagreeing with one another, this is what makes healthy debates. But being rude, crude, tantrum throwing, shit slinging, obnoxious in ones approach is uncalled for. If people would step back and think about their approach to what they dissagree with instead of just jumping on and throwing crap out there, things would be a whole lot better for making real progress.
What I recognize for the most part of rant threads, although I don't like trashing an individual casino, is that they can be turned into fun, vent a lot of frustration and can be productive.
But if the riot police keep coming in and keep poking us with their batons and spraying mace in our faces, then all you succeed in doing is turning it into a slug fest.
So we should step back and examine why and what about a rant that bothers us so much, if it because accredited casinos are being named, then simply continually reinforcing that a rant can be good without naming and shaming will eventually have better results. You may have to constantly do this, but it gets the message across much better than than just being abusive to your fellow forum members.

Evelyn
 


WW....IMO and my 2 cents worth, what you are attempting to do is exactly what you are proclaiming you don't like. You'd like to CENSOR any post that YOU determine is snarky, offensive, flippant, negative and the many other descriptors you used. If it was up to you, how many here would have a voice at all? I'm sure I wouldn't, because you think I'm some or all of the above.

WW......it's not your place, nor do you have any right to admonish or scold those that you imagine have some personal vendetta against you. Just because someone thanks a post, doesn't mean that they are part of some mob or a haters club or out to get you, it simply means they agree in part or mostly on the post. Simple as that!
 
I'm snarky, offensive, flippant and negative. :(

But on the upside I'm sarcastic, abrasive, stubborn and facetious. :)
 
I'm snarky, offensive, flippant and negative. :(

But on the upside I'm sarcastic, abrasive, stubborn and facetious. :)

But you are also, funny, understanding and know when and how to use your snarkiness, flippant, negativity. Big difference.
 
lmao@ manipulation and lauriejim being used in the same sentence.

Clearly you don't know Laurie.

Now please pass whatever you're toking on. :p


What I stated has nothing to do with whether I know Laurie or not, it simply shows, whether it was intentional or just being funny, it still creates an impression with some people that is contrary to what this thread is all about.
 


I agree to what you say in theory - of course it would be great if everyone stopped being abusive. But in reality it's a lot more complicated. There are a LOT of people here on this forum and each person has his/her own distinct personality and posting style - and also their own sensitivity level to what constitutes abusive behaviour.

Like for instance I could probably call Skiny a wisecracking m*****f***** and (hopefully) he'd see it as what it is, a term of endearment :o and not be offended at all.

But other people are more sensitive to stuff like that - I've seen huge crazy drama over some fairly innocent comment that someone posted and someone else misunderstood. You know?

Anyhow my point is that there are things that would bother some that wouldn't bother others - that's to be expected from such a large and diverse group. Everyone's perceptions are different and it's especially hard to read a 'tone' from a printed post, unless it's flat-out name calling or something like that.

But I agree that people should be able to disagree or have differing opinions without resorting to nastiness. We see too much of that shit on the news already.
 
But you are also, funny, understanding and know when and how to use your snarkiness, flippant, negativity. Big difference.

Tell that to my exwife. ;)

All joking aside, people would really do well to wear a thick skin in a forum such as this. Almost every conversation becomes a debate. No matter where you stand others stand apart. These debates can easily become heated when opinions vary so greatly. I agree with Mavin about sharing a certain amount of respect for other forum members. For some it's hard to respectfully disagree but this is a necessity to maintain order and civility.

I enjoy a good debate and at times I disagree with people just to start one. That doesn't mean it has to become an argument. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Friendly jabs and pokes can be fun and in some "families" they're expected but nobody wants a knife thrust at them at the drop of a hat. Blatant insults are unnecessary.

We're here to share ideas and information, to debate and converse. I may be a little harder to insult than some. (Sniffing glue helps.) But some people can be hurt by what they read. They can be insulted. These people I can only suggest not taking too much of what is typed here to heart. And maybe the people doing the typing can keep in mind that these are real people they're talking to. Somewhere there has to be a middle ground where everyone can get along.
 
I do not like or have one ounce of empathy for casino apologists, too bad!! That said, I think Mavin has blown the typical disfunctions of all message board forums into hers' and few others' agenda driven clusterfuck so I will just ignore them.:):):)
 
I do not like or have one ounce of empathy for casino apologists, too bad!! That said, I think Mavin has blown the typical disfunctions of all message board forums into hers' and few others' agenda driven clusterfuck so I will just ignore them.:):):)

Ok Nash...do you need one of my pills? :D

You last few posts have been....ummmm...well, not normal Nash speak. ;)
 
@Nash

ho l'impressione di non essere l'unico a non capire i tuoi messaggi....potresti essere piu' chiaro?
Grazie
kakata

we are even....lol:D
Your post is easy to understand so keep tryin' to get even.:D
 
I do not like or have one ounce of empathy for casino apologists, too bad!! That said, I think Mavin has blown the typical disfunctions of all message board forums into hers' and few others' agenda driven clusterfuck so I will just ignore them.:):):)

Damn Nash,

I do think I understand this one 100%, Yay Me!!!!! :thumbsup: Pretty astute for the lowly pot and kettle scrubber, don't ya think?? :D
 
This thread is totally ridiculous, IMO.

We have a few people here chastising a couple of other people cuz they didn't like what the other people chastised them about.

They rudely pointed out that the other posters were being rude.

The criticized the other posters for being critical.

They insist that they are right and the other posters are mean and snarky and nasty, as they meanly and snarkily and nastily tell them so.

Hell, my guess there isn't a soul in this thread that can sing Laurie's song, who by the way was criticized for her song choice. Oh wait, that was me, never mind.

Let's face it kids, you don't like us, we don't like you, whoever you are and whoever we are aren't gonna see eye to eye on anything. Probably because some of us are too tall or too short to look anyone in the eye.

While I am on a rant (that is what this is, right everybody?), have I mentioned that it drives me bat shit when some people post long and wordy posts when half the words would do. Or, how about those silly posters who post all they have to say without one single paragraph break! Damn those posters!! And I don't even want to talk about Rogue vs Rouge, or Etc. vs Ect. And any other every day words that get misspelled and mis-used. Damn us all!

Or what about those girlie girls that practically giggle when they post? Or those manly men that feel the need to act condescendingly and macho when they post.

Shit, I think this forum should be shut down, too many screwed up dysfunctional posters with too many screwed up thoughts. Yuck.

Whoever thought of inventing forums should be strung up, covered with honey and then deal with the ants and bees and wasps. Ooh, nasty!!
 
Okay, why then if you are so miffed or pissed by this thread Jod, do you keep coming back to it and are keeping it going. You are trying way to hard to convince everyone that there is something morally wrong with a little mutual kindness, tact and a little consideration, to one another, no matter how much we may dissagree or debate.

I haven't followed a lot of your posts but do you ever post anything having to do with the casino industry itself, or something that makes people really think WOW, what an awsome thing to read, something that many can find some appreciation in? Or are you just into supporting the negativity and helping it along when it lags?


I'm sure this pisses some of you off too, so go ahead and have your fit, obviously you will anyways.
 
This is the attic......Mavin and you are the one who started this thread, so it doesn't have to be about anything in the industry, it's for off topic stuff.

Honestly.......Mavin until you started this thread things were pretty quite but you are the one who stirred this pot so to speak. By starting this thread, you've managed to get WW all out of sorts again.

The way I read Jod's post was a little humorous take on the complexities of a forum and the different personalities at work and yes she is a little snarky, but aren't we all at times? Some people just hide it under the guise of a do gooder and sit back and watch the fall out.

Are you having fun yet? :eek:
 
Mavin,

WTF IS your problem? I posted that to ease tension and try to show all of us how silly we can be. Not just me, not just you, but all of us in the whole Damn world sometimes.




The rest of what I was going to say would be wasted on you and Meki. You two make the perfect couple. Jeez Louise!!!!
 

Jod5413
 
Why don't you all just shut up! :eek:

While I am on a rant (that is what this is, right everybody?), have I mentioned that it drives me bat shit when some people post long and wordy posts when half the words would do. Or, how about those silly posters who post all they have to say without one single paragraph break! Damn those posters!! And I don't even want to talk about Rogue vs Rouge, or Etc. vs Ect. And any other every day words that get misspelled and mis-used. Damn us all!


My husband doesn't give me enough sex, and Kakata won't help me out.
My hair is too frizzy and I weigh too much.
It was too fucking hot out today and will be again tomorrow.
Why do cops always eat donuts? Don't they like bagels?
I wanted another coffee tonight but forgot to make one.
Why do men like wrestling?
I'm sick and tired of bringing the dogs out to take a piss.
I have a headache but don't feel like taking any tylenol.

:laugh:

Where was I going with this?

Joe Blow disagrees with Jane Blow, who cares? People can post and agree/disagree with anyone they want to.

BUT WHY MUST THERE ALWAYS BE INSULTS? It makes no sense? Well to me at least. The only person I would feel good about slinging insults at would be my husbands ex, but she's a REAL BITCH. :D
 
I'm snarky, offensive, flippant and negative. :(

But on the upside I'm sarcastic, abrasive, stubborn and facetious. :)

And that would be why I like you so much.

Free speech is only a right in a handful of countries. When I first began to read your thread, I thought you were talking about the outlawing of "Crush" videos.

I have very mixed opinions about stuff like this. Are cartoon depictions of torture, rape, child pornography acceptable? Is an 18 or 19 year old female dressing to look like a schoolgirl and pretending to be younger in sexual poses acceptable (it is by the laws in my country, and I don't disagree with it).

Should the mods on this board ban someone for calling you a hair on a nipple wart? Sure, I think so, it detracts from real discussion. But the way I read Mavin's original post, do you think they should not have been banned, that taking away from their "right" to free speech?

I think if you have an unmoderated forum the a*holes and bully will run off a lot of people (like you Mavin) that make a contribution. I do not hold all the same opinions a you or any poster here, but I do try to make them in a way that is not disrespectful.

I expect respect in my own home. You are asked to leave if you call my guests names, or use racist language, or frankly, just annoy me too long or keep me up past my bedtime. Casinomeister should have the same privilege. Nothing is keeping someone from calling you names throughout the internet, but it's nice not to see it here, and to know that when it does happen, it does not continue to happen.
 
Seriously, think of the meanest, nastiest, bitch you have ever heard of, or know....multiply that person by 1 million and you are sorta close to this woman. I could tell stories that would curl your toenails!!!
:sob:

I wonder if she is the same woman that I used to work with. :D

Seriously.....I've always got along with my coworkers, can't say I liked everyone, but you gotta steer clear of those that you don't and just bite your tongue, anyway this woman that I worked with I could not escape her as we worked in the same way too small office. She was supposed to train me when I started there, she purposefully mislead me, undercut me at every chance and it wasn't just me, anyone new, she was the exact same way. She'd screw up and then blame it on someone else, (which I find is one of the most deplorable things you can do.) She loved to gossip and seemed to take pleasure in other's people's pain and suffering, she would actually smile when giving her gossip reports after lunch, the worse it was, the more she smiled. You could tell she was a very unhappy bitter person and there were times when I felt sorry for her, but she was so mean and underhanded that the pity soon wore very thin. I was jumping for joy when I got out of that small office and didn't have to be around her any more. :D
 
Ok, ok...the forum police have entered the attic...I step out for a day or two and look what happens...

I figured we were in for a nice love fest and I see a sling/slug/poke/prod/dig fest

Geezes people..... Old Attachment (Invalid) When I read this,
Are you having fun yet?
I would like to say....



















I fell on the floor almost pissing myself...and I am a lady 100%! You guys really got to stop this..you know...

It can cause bodily injury cause when I finished reading the last three pages I actually hurt myself badly..I think I pulled my sciatica out again...from laffing so hard...

Ok, I know none of you will understand this and neither do I, but right now, I just want to gather you all up and give you all one big hug...really I do..and I don't know why...(I guess I am catching the sickness too) Old Attachment (Invalid)

So please behave until I get back from my travels...and recouperate from my injuries...

.
 

BS.

This thread is about a group of people who are NASTY - RUDE - VICIOUS and play games.

If you think it's about you - then feel guilt.

If you don't then tra la la away.

In the other thread (which you mentioned) you guys were RUDE - VICIOUS - NOT NICE...

THAT IS FACT.

In fact - even more so that Bryan stepped in and said something NOT ONCE - but TWICE.

You forget - this isn't YOUR forum. It is BRYAN'S.

And this group disrespected BRYAN by their actions.

You think it's ok to waltz in and treat people like that?

And then pretend it's all heaven?

Give me a break.

I don't care that you don't like me or my posting - but I RARELY - if EVER - treat people like shit.

And YOU GUYS ---- ABSOLUTELY ---- CANNOT SAY THE SAME.
 

A post worth quoting imo, and one with which I agree.

I do think we're seeing a degree of over-sensitivity in a few posts lately, however.
 
I agree with Jetset.

FYI: I read Jod's post as humour. Also, you're all adults and if you give it, be prepared to take it IMO. We try to avoid banning people *too* regularly for two reasons: 1) because you have to cut some slack from time to time and 2) because it clogs up other message boards with people bitching about how mean and nasty Casinomeister is :D

Best bet: if you find it hurts, walk away for a while and get some fresh air. Gambling is emotional, it attracts people from all walks of life and on an anonymous forum people get braver. If you feel someone overstepped the mark, at leats use teh "Report a Post" button so we can take a look.

But above all - remember there are far more important things in life than getting all het up about what someone you can't see, don't know and mostly don't even care about thinks about you or your opinion. ;)
 
A post worth quoting imo, and one with which I agree.

I do think we're seeing a degree of over-sensitivity in a few posts lately, however.

Wearing a thick skin means to be less sensitive.
 
Wearing a thick skin means to be less sensitive.

I think what Jetset means is that there's sensitive - and then there's OVERsensitive. Like your pinky toe, it's a sensitive area and it hurts when you bang it on the f***ing coffee table. But after you've broken it off and it's hanging by a flap of skin and swollen the size of a watermelon and then someone steps on it, then it's OVERsensitive.

There's some history between some of the folks here that seems to flare up occasionally. Like a spark in a keg of dynamite, sometimes it doesn't take much to have the whole thing explode all over again.
 
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