COVID-19 Slots

[Don't be rigged now]

First of all i am new to here and have created this account to get some opinions from your prospective of how slots have been playing during the lockdown period. It is no surprise that betting shops and casinos etc have had to shut their doors during this pandemic which solely leaves the majority of their income to online play. Now, i strongly believe that slots have somewhat been adjusted to compensate for this lack of income to recover more money from online players during this period. When websites lower their RTP it is usually known by players via website announcements, people talking etc although over this period it has probably gone on everywhere. I have spoke to a couple of people who agree with me that the slots are not behaving as they used to before lockdown and that this is not just the result of lower RTP games but something is going on in the background that we are not being told about. Of course it is very hard to prove this as you will always be met with the slots are random or its all down to a RNG etc but i would not be surprised if something is released one day. Now i'm not going on one due to big losses etc, i'm actually up over my years of playing but i feel at this moment in time players are getting ripped off and there could/should be some sort of light shed on this.

In a somewhat unrelated topic, i enjoy playing thunderstruck 2 but i have noticed when you unlock all the bonus' on the game on one website the game will become extremely difficult to bonus eg ripping £300 in about 10 mins on 60p stakes. If i start fresh on another website the game will freely bonus like it wants you to experience the other bonus rounds you can unlock, i have done this on about 5 different websites so there is clearly a pattern although it will of course be denied. I have reached out to the thunderstruck 2 provider for a comment on this.

 

[Borgie]

@Harry_BKK a large eye roll maybe helpful
@Kroffe nature documentary please

 

[Harry_BKK]

First of all i am new to here and have created this account to get some opinions from your prospective of how slots have been playing during the lockdown period. It is no surprise that betting shops and casinos etc have had to shut their doors during this pandemic which solely leaves the majority of their income to online play. Now, i strongly believe that slots have somewhat been adjusted to compensate for this lack of income to recover more money from online players during this period. When websites lower their RTP it is usually known by players via website announcements, people talking etc although over this period it has probably gone on everywhere. I have spoke to a couple of people who agree with me that the slots are not behaving as they used to before lockdown and that this is not just the result of lower RTP games but something is going on in the background that we are not being told about. Of course it is very hard to prove this as you will always be met with the slots are random or its all down to a RNG etc but i would not be surprised if something is released one day. Now i'm not going on one due to big losses etc, i'm actually up over my years of playing but i feel at this moment in time players are getting ripped off and there could/should be some sort of light shed on this.

In a somewhat unrelated topic, i enjoy playing thunderstruck 2 but i have noticed when you unlock all the bonus' on the game on one website the game will become extremely difficult to bonus eg ripping £300 in about 10 mins on 60p stakes. If i start fresh on another website the game will freely bonus like it wants you to experience the other bonus rounds you can unlock, i have done this on about 5 different websites so there is clearly a pattern although it will of course be denied. I have reached out to the thunderstruck 2 provider for a comment on this.

 

[brianmon]

I've got to say, the new HTML5 version of TSII is playing and paying really bad. It literally eats money.
The first HTML5 version of IR was the same, although they have now updated it, and it seems to be paying and playing more like the original Flash version did.

 

[pinnit2014]

Run, run for your life; the eye rolls are out.

And, though denied, I’m sure Harry is employed by an international organisation and will not think twice about utilising his Jason Bourne skill set.

Just seen Brian posting; I was really eager when heard that IR was coming to mobile etc but it really sucked. Don’t know if it was clunkier and slower that gave me the impression, at least, that it was as tight as a gnats arse, but saw some early grim sessions.

Might give it another go and confirm via a substantial spin sample of 200 spins.

 

[Harry_BKK]

In a somewhat unrelated topic, i enjoy playing thunderstruck 2 but i have noticed when you unlock all the bonus' on the game on one website the game will become extremely difficult to bonus eg ripping £300 in about 10 mins on 60p stakes. If i start fresh on another website the game will freely bonus like it wants you to experience the other bonus rounds you can unlock, i have done this on about 5 different websites so there is clearly a pattern although it will of course be denied. I have reached out to the thunderstruck 2 provider for a comment on this.

You would need a speed of 3,000 spins/hour and 0% RTP to achieve that feat. Good luck with that.

FYI, TS2 runs max at 1,500 spins/hour if you have it on Quickspin, the default speed is roughly 600 - 750 spins/hour. Convert that to your 10 mins @ 60p and you would have done 250 spins on high speed and 100-125 spins on standard speed. At 0% RTP, you would have lost GBP150 on high speed and GBP60-75 on standard speed. You might want to revisit that statement!

I also see that your are suffering from the "I have gambled for years and I am up" misconception syndrome.

 

[bamberfishcake]

I think if you are seeing any effects it is a result of bad luck.

Still, clutching at straws, I doubt RTP would be noticeable for a good year or so and only really noticeable if you keep a record of deposit and losses for the past year or so and the coming year.

Even then you may have a lucky year and individual effects of RTP will be hard to prove either way. Even though we know there is less in the pot for players and more for casinos if using lower RTP.

Regarding TS2 I did experience a game, cant remember what its called, that dropped and dropped and dropped until you completed the storyline then bonuses seemed sparce. Another member also commented similar.

Now I am not saying this is the case but i do wonder if a slot could be made this way and still meet testing requirements.

Or, again, you may have just experienced a whole lot of bad luck following a whole lot of good.

 

[pinnit2014]

Oh man

 

[Harry_BKK]

Run, run for your life; the eye rolls are out.

And, though denied, I’m sure Harry is employed by an international organisation and will not think twice about utilising his Jason Bourne skill set.

Just seen Brian posting; I was really eager when heard that IR was coming to mobile etc but it really sucked. Don’t know if it was clunkier and slower that gave me the impression, at least, that it was as tight as a gnats arse, but saw some early grim sessions.

Might give it another go and confirm via a substantial spin sample of 200 spins.

IR actually got a new UI with improved graphics. Plays much smoother than the initial botched HTML5 conversion.

TS2 is in the making!

 

[pinnit2014]

IR actually got a new UI with improved graphics. Plays much smoother than the initial botched HTML5 conversion.

TS2 is in the making!

View attachment 133688

May need to have a punt then; used to play it everyday, such was my love of it as well. The fourth drop on wild desire and waiting on Sarah...

 

[mack341]

I agree about Thunderstruck 2, the bonuses do seem to land more frequently at the start. playboy not so much. Slots do appear to have patterns, loads of bonuses and then none is one, 20 dead spins on the bounce is another you can experience.

I think pseudo random is the best description, you can still have fun and excitement though. But always be careful, set limits and appreciate the wins is the best long term approach [ something I've failed to do myself ] short term you can get lucky ignoring that but the variance/volatility will catch up with you in the end.

 

[Jono777]

I had some thoughts along these lines

Extra riggedness to compensate for closed betting shops, take advantage of many stuck at home

on the plus side

more people playing, more money/spins going thru them, larger yield of decent wins

If I had to vote, I'd chose my first thoughts every time

 

[Slottery]

I'm almost 100% sure that lockdowns have much bigger impact to people psychology than slots behavior. Don't really sure how/why you would start some big development project when you realize that pandemia and lockdowns dropped from sky.

Without any tweaking and be just rigged as before lockdown should be sufficient for providers/casinos as volumes have increased. If they have that spoken long time strategy to make slots more evil and smarter step by step (not speaking about public things like RTP:s but what some players have expressed), why to take some quick action which potentially put your long term plan in danger when you suddenly change it?

With these increases in deposits, there shouldn't be need more than keep on working with that longtime plan for everything connected to everywhere to give personalized journey to all players, take from some and give others which are different part of their journey etc... and what ever else there's planned.

Not that actively playing slots that would be really in these, but getting updates from here from latest trends (see how long provider people keep denying everything, one evening one have few drinks too much and share whole plan with me).

edit: Just to add, it's quite easy to prove if there are any remarkable changes, keep tracking all your gameplay always and differences are not hard to spot if something have permanently changed.

 

[Harry_BKK]

I agree about Thunderstruck 2, the bonuses do seem to land more frequently at the start. playboy not so much. Slots do appear to have patterns, loads of bonuses and then none is one, 20 dead spins on the bounce is another you can experience.

I think pseudo random is the best description, you can still have fun and excitement though. But always be careful, set limits and appreciate the wins is the best long term approach [ something I've failed to do myself ] short term you can get lucky ignoring that but the variance/volatility will catch up with you in the end.

That is a complete misconception, please visit my first Remarkable Day at VS thread and have a look at how much TS2 contributed to those huge wins, playing up to $15/spin. And I played that slot in every session ever since it was released in 2010.

TS2 just like IR can both be "stubborn" at times. Nothing different to any other slots. Nothing unusual at all.

 

[geordiecolin]

You would need a speed of 3,000 spins/hour and 0% RTP to achieve that feat. Good luck with that. View attachment 133689

FYI, TS2 runs max at 1,500 spins/hour if you have it on Quickspin, the default speed is roughly 600 - 750 spins/hour. Convert that to your 10 mins @ 60p and you would have done 250 spins on high speed and 100-125 spins on standard speed. At 0% RTP, you would have lost GBP150 on high speed and GBP60-75 on standard speed. You might want to revisit that statement!

I also see that your are suffering from the "I have gambled for years and I am up" misconception syndrome. View attachment 133687

How pedantic and welcoming are you?
It seems that just about everyone who joins this site and posts these days gets the same treatment then never returns. Its almost as though a few people want the forum for their own little playground

 

[mack341]

That is a complete misconception, please visit my first Remarkable Day at VS thread and have a look at how much TS2 contributed to those huge wins, playing up to $15/spin. And I played that slot in every session ever since it was released in 2010.

TS2 just like IR can both be "stubborn" at times. Nothing different to any other slots. Nothing unusual at all.

I've been meaning to read that thread from start for a long time, one day I'll get myself a flask of coffee made up and settle down to a good read.

I'm only going from my experience, I noticed a similar thing on gorillas gone wild and cleopatra plus, once you got everything fully opened the bonus frequency changes.

Btw which bonus feature do you prefer in TS2? Loki has given me a few decent wins recently. I have also lost £100+ on 30p (and then raised to 60p) in very quick time. It is surprising to me how fast this game can wipe a balance on low stakes.

 

[Kroffe]

@Harry_BKK a large eye roll maybe helpful
@Kroffe nature documentary please

Id hate to not post a documentary when someone asks.
But i also like to keep things on-topic.

Solution:

 

[Harry_BKK]

How pedantic and welcoming are you?
It seems that just about everyone who joins this site and posts these days gets the same treatment then never returns. Its almost as though a few people want the forum for their own little playground

Really?

Someone signs up and posts some wild conspiracy theory of dozens of game providers and hundreds of casino operators ganging up on players during the lockdown, then makes some wild claim to have lost 300 bucks in 10 mins on 60p bets and you are saying I am pedantic? In what world are you in?

 

[slotmaster]

Oh s!@# another eyeroll!

 

[pinnit2014]

Oh s!@# another eyeroll!

No one is safe

 

[Jono777]

C'mon guys lets not get heated up over difference of opinions.

 

[Harry_BKK]

I've been meaning to read that thread from start for a long time, one day I'll get myself a flask of coffee made up and settle down to a good read.

I'm only going from my experience, I noticed a similar thing on gorillas gone wild and cleopatra plus, once you got everything fully opened the bonus frequency changes.

Btw which bonus feature do you prefer in TS2? Loki has given me a few decent wins recently. I have also lost £100+ on 30p (and then raised to 60p) in very quick time. It is surprising to me how fast this game can wipe a balance on low stakes.

Always Valkyrie!!!

 

[Don't be rigged now]

Really?

Someone signs up and posts some wild conspiracy theory of dozens of game providers and hundreds of casino operators ganging up on players during the lockdown, then makes some wild claim to have lost ''300 bucks in 10 mins on 60p bets'' and you are saying I am pedantic? In what world are you in? View attachment 133691

Take it you don't do well with sarcasm.

 

[Jono777]

Not played TSII for years (guessing that screen shot put others off as well as myself )

I was (from what I've read) one of very few who preferred/chose the Odin Feature, Valkyrie never seemed to deliver for me as with IR's Amber

 

[Don't be rigged now]

You would need a speed of 3,000 spins/hour and 0% RTP to achieve that feat. Good luck with that. View attachment 133689

FYI, TS2 runs max at 1,500 spins/hour if you have it on Quickspin, the default speed is roughly 600 - 750 spins/hour. Convert that to your 10 mins @ 60p and you would have done 250 spins on high speed and 100-125 spins on standard speed. At 0% RTP, you would have lost GBP150 on high speed and GBP60-75 on standard speed. You might want to revisit that statement!

I also see that your are suffering from the "I have gambled for years and I am up" misconception syndrome. View attachment 133687

Yes the claim 300 lost in 10 mins was a bit of sarcasm. Also your maths is wrong - i've just timed 30 spins in a 60 second period therefore max hourly spins is 1,800 this is achieved by manually tapping spin constantly; obviously the introduction of a bonus round would effect these figures.

 

[pinnit2014]

IR actually got a new UI with improved graphics. Plays much smoother than the initial botched HTML5 conversion.

TS2 is in the making!

View attachment 133688

Playing now; yeah, a massive improvement on that initial horrific version

No autoplay; boo
First foray, no bonus yet with no achievements. I was under the impression this would be bonus daft

 

[snorky510238]

It’s almost a guarantee slots will be programmed in this way on games where you have to collect tokens or unlock certain things to achieve the freedom of choice or certain enhancements. Your bonus rounds will be using different reel strips once everything is unlocked (well at least that will be the excuse that is considered acceptable).

Imo games absolutely have to play differently, depending on stakes also. Take games like Bonanza for instance that has a bonus frequency on average of about 1 in every 450 spins. It’s not unusual for players to go 2,000 spins without a bonus. Now that’s bad enough on min stake, where depending on the base hits you could have lost 1000x stake.

That means a net loss of £200, bloody annoying, it would piss you off at the time etc, etc but probably not likely to prompt you to complain to anyone of authority.

Take the same scenario with a player playing max bet and they have lost £20,000. Would providers seriously have the games set this way to screw over high rollers, the very players they want to keep?

No of course they wouldn’t but at the same time they wouldn’t want to be exposed to the max “potential” some of these games have at the highest stakes either. Therefore on max bet you will get a softer but still controlled base game but on the flip side in bonus rounds the reel sets available will not allow the same potential as playing on min bet.

People don’t believe these things happen or are possible. Go ahead believe what you want to believe it’s only my opinion and life’s about opinions isn’t it? I am not saying you have to believe it just highlighting that sometimes you have to think outside the box.

Here is another bit of food for thought for the purists to digest. On DOA and as far as I am aware on DOA 2 (only done a few thousand spins) have you ever noticed, how you never see 5oak tens, jacks or queens in the base game. That win is available obviously so if it was totally random you would see it from time to time surely but no never.

 

[Jono777]

Here is another bit of food for thought for the purists to digest. On DOA and as far as I am aware on DOA 2 (only done a few thousand spins) have you ever noticed, how you never see 5oak tens, jacks or queens in the base game. That win is available obviously so if it was totally random you would see it from time to time surely but no never.

This, yes!

Said to the wife and commented on here over the years, exactly as you describe mate!

Also when the HTML5 upgrade came along, the frequency of the 5OAK lower premiums (glass, boots, hats) were more forthcoming than the flash version.

Another thing a 3 reel tease fail (scatter on 1&2 but no feature) will 90% of the time next spin result in a scatter on either 3, 4 or 5. DoA is not the only game which does this, another occurrence which removes "true random" for me from the equation.

I agree with random, but random within defined and pre set parameters for sure

 

[Don't be rigged now]

Bit more on thunderstruck 2, i have noticed that after pressing spin if you a met with a 1-2 second delay then you a guaranteed a bonus tease at the very least but this only occurs on some websites - thought this a strange observation and not like the pause you would get on spinal tap or goonies when you know a feature is incoming.

I enjoy this slot as you can turn a £20 deposit into a couple of hundred quid in just a few spins, granted you haven't unlocked every bonus of course

 

[Kroffe]

This, yes!

Said to the wife and commented on here over the years, exactly as you describe mate!

Also when the HTML5 upgrade came along, the frequency of the 5OAK lower premiums (glass, boots, hats) were m,ore forthcoming than the flash version.

Another thing a 3rd tease fail (scatter on 1&2 but no feature) will 90% of the time next spin result in a scatter on either 3, 4 or 5. DoA is not the only game which does this, another occurrence which removes "true random" for me from the equation.

I agree with random, but random within defined and pre set parameters for sure

Random, but in a very controlled, predetermined & compensated way.

 

[Harry_BKK]

It’s almost a guarantee slots will be programmed in this way on games where you have to collect tokens or unlock certain things to achieve the freedom of choice or certain enhancements. Your bonus rounds will be using different reel strips once everything is unlocked (well at least that will be the excuse that is considered acceptable).

Imo games absolutely have to play differently, depending on stakes also. Take games like Bonanza for instance that has a bonus frequency on average of about 1 in every 450 spins. It’s not unusual for players to go 2,000 spins without a bonus. Now that’s bad enough on min stake, where depending on the base hits you could have lost 1000x stake.

That means a net loss of £200, bloody annoying, it would piss you off at the time etc, etc but probably not likely to prompt you to complain to anyone of authority.

Take the same scenario with a player playing max bet and they have lost £20,000. Would providers seriously have the games set this way to screw over high rollers, the very players they want to keep?

No of course they wouldn’t but at the same time they wouldn’t want to be exposed to the max “potential” some of these games have at the highest stakes either. Therefore on max bet you will get a softer but still controlled base game but on the flip side in bonus rounds the reel sets available will not allow the same potential as playing on min bet.

People don’t believe these things happen or are possible. Go ahead believe what you want to believe it’s only my opinion and life’s about opinions isn’t it? I am not saying you have to believe it just highlighting that sometimes you have to think outside the box.

Here is another bit of food for thought for the purists to digest. On DOA and as far as I am aware on DOA 2 (only done a few thousand spins) have you ever noticed, how you never see 5oak tens, jacks or queens in the base game. That win is available obviously so if it was totally random you would see it from time to time surely but no never.

With all due respect but that is some baloney!

I lost over 12K on Bonanza playing it for a long session on $20 bets. It didn't play one iota different and no one appeared miraculously to crank up the RTP or whatever just to keep me happy.

This was my best hit during that day:

Who cares about the frequency of 5OAK 10s, Js or Qs on DOA I or II? They barely cover the bet.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Playing now; yeah, a massive improvement on that initial horrific version

No autoplay; boo
First foray, no bonus yet with no achievements. I was under the impression this would be bonus daft

No Autoplay is probably the version for the UK and Sweden. Don't like it at all.

 

[Kroffe]

No Autoplay is probably the version for the UK and Sweden. Don't like it at all.

Hey, we are big-boys over here when we are gambling.
We are allowed auto-play.

Just no bonuses.
So if anyone wanna trade auto-play for some bonuses im willing to negotiate.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Hey, we are big-boys over here when we are gambling.
We are allowed auto-play.

Just no bonuses.
So if anyone wanna trade auto-play for some bonuses im willing to negotiate.

Ooops, sorry, got that wrong... you have the 3-second delay, just as bad IMO.

I'll give you my bonuses, happily. Problem is, I rarely get some as my country of residence is mostly excluded from those sweet offers.

 

[Kroffe]

Ooops, sorry, got that wrong... you have the 3-second delay, just as bad IMO.

I'll give you my bonuses, happily. Problem is, I rarely get some as my country of residence is mostly excluded from those sweet offers.

Alrighty then.
Just give me remote-access to your computer and tell me how many spins you want me to make for you.
You need to specify betsize, losslimit, winlimit etc.

Or you can press:

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.

and download an autoclicker for your pc.
The downside to using an autoclicker is there is no option to set a loss-limit, only how many spins you want to make.
So i recommend giving me access so i can do the auto-spins uh..manually.

 

[pinnit2014]

No Autoplay is probably the version for the UK and Sweden. Don't like it at all.

I'm trying to make a salad for my kebabs and, due to mindless clicking, nearly drizzled fairy washing up liquid on it instead - me no likey.

 

[snorky510238]

With all due respect but that is some baloney! View attachment 133699

I lost over 12K on Bonanza playing it for a long session on $20 bets. It didn't play one iota different and no one appeared miraculously to crank up the RTP or whatever just to keep me happy.

This was my best hit during that day:

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Who cares about the frequency of 5OAK 10s, Js or Qs on DOA I or II? They barely cover the bet.

You are basing your response on one long session? We are told you can’t make judgments from that you need to millions of spins remember.

From you post it leans to what I said, as in your best hit was in the base game. As for 5oak low paying symbols “who cares”. Produce evidence that slots aren’t random and that’s the best argument you have. I recommend you take up politics Harry.

 

[Guntis]

WOW, that's a killer headline here... COVID-19 Slots, hmm...
I guess next is going to be Donald Trump Slots.

 

[Slottery]

People don’t believe these things happen or are possible. Go ahead believe what you want to believe it’s only my opinion and life’s about opinions isn’t it? I am not saying you have to believe it just highlighting that sometimes you have to think outside the box.

That's right and one of few real freedoms we all have, we believe different things and have different opinions and all have right to their own.

(below not any more reply to quoted post but in general this thread)

Of course in developing of slots are many factors like these teasers, two scatters and one next round etc... which are meant to be there to keep them exciting as possible and players to make some patterns when trying to analyze game, these both often keep player interested about game which often also means that player is coming back and deposit.

If slots would just return less than your bet in every spin and only have one huge jackpot win which triggers not very often, there would be really few playing it. If player wouldn't believe having some chance to win, not many would just play games which slowly takes your money. They also would be much less tempting with RTP range 30-40% when you could end up to withdraw something once a year or what ever (easier for KYC though).

WOW, that's a killer headline here... COVID-19 Slots, hmm...
I guess next is going to be Donald Trump Slots.

That maye could be whole serie of slots from different things happened on his time of president and in part 6 or 7 maybe something before and after. Have to throw idea to some developers

 

[Harry_BKK]

You are basing your response on one long session? We are told you can’t make judgments from that you need to millions of spins remember.

From you post it leans to what I said, as in your best hit was in the base game. As for 5oak low paying symbols “who cares”. Produce evidence that slots aren’t random and that’s the best argument you have. I recommend you take up politics Harry.

You think I played Bonanza or other slots for that matter only once on $10 or $20 bets?

DOA and DOA2 have both roughly 54% of the RTP for bet line wins in the base game. Due to the relatively high pays for the premiums, you won't have many 5OAK of the low symbols. It's simple math, really.

 

[snorky510238]

Yes I sort of get that but when you have more chance of hitting 5 scatters than 5oak tens, then it being random has to be questioned.


It’s not that you see very few 5oak low paying symbols in the base game, it’s that you never see any. Obviously if it was using a rng and every symbol position stop was available you would hit them at some point. Which leans towards the assumption slots are programmed and that is missing from the possibilities.

 

[Gaz237]

How pedantic and welcoming are you?
It seems that just about everyone who joins this site and posts these days gets the same treatment then never returns. Its almost as though a few people want the forum for their own little playground

I don't agree.

It's become very tedious of late, the amount of newbies joining up to claim slots are rigged.

The OP was talking crap anyway and doubled down on any creditworthiness by claiming to be up on slots over the years, like it added merit to justify his claim.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Yes I sort of get that but when you have more chance of hitting 5 scatters than 5oak tens, then it being random has to be questioned.


It’s not that you see very few 5oak low paying symbols in the base game, it’s that you never see any. Obviously if it was using a rng and every symbol position stop was available you would hit them at some point. Which leans towards the assumption slots are programmed and that is missing from the possibilities.

Please observe the game for a while. There are not many instances of the low symbols on reel 4 and even less on reel 5. Simple math, again!

The scatter pay on DOA and DOA2 is roughly 17.5% of the RTP and is one of the attractions to play it. Scatter pays on "normal" slots are only about 5% of the RTP

 

[pinnit2014]

Please observe the game for a while. There are not many instances of the low symbols on reel 4 and even less on reel 5. Simple math, again!

You didn't tell him to inform himself.

Stop giving Snorks mixed signals

 

[The Dude]

Really?

Someone signs up and posts some wild conspiracy theory of dozens of game providers and hundreds of casino operators ganging up on players during the lockdown, then makes some wild claim to have lost 300 bucks in 10 mins on 60p bets and you are saying I am pedantic? In what world are you in? View attachment 133691

This is a new member, and it should not take guts to post a new thread for fear of being reprimanded my an oldtimer. Please try to be a bit more welcoming. Not everyone has the same experiences as you have. Thank you.

 

[sufferinsilence]

You would need a speed of 3,000 spins/hour and 0% RTP to achieve that feat. Good luck with that. View attachment 133689

FYI, TS2 runs max at 1,500 spins/hour if you have it on Quickspin, the default speed is roughly 600 - 750 spins/hour. Convert that to your 10 mins @ 60p and you would have done 250 spins on high speed and 100-125 spins on standard speed. At 0% RTP, you would have lost GBP150 on high speed and GBP60-75 on standard speed. You might want to revisit that statement!

I also see that your are suffering from the "I have gambled for years and I am up" misconception syndrome. View attachment 133687

I'll have you know that I am up from gambling! Albeit from sportsbetting.

And if I didn't play slots... Oh well.

 

[pinnit2014]

The OP's correct - the no achievements riggedness is making a tenner deposit last.

This is like slotting in 2008.

 

[sufferinsilence]

The OP's correct - the no achievements riggedness is making a tenner deposit last.

This is like slotting in 2008.

View attachment 133715

So confused, I just read "they" turned down the RTP because of Covid-19.

Seeing this screenshot I'd like to ask: is this only in England then?

 

[pinnit2014]

So confused, I just read "they" turned down the RTP because of Covid-19.

Seeing this screenshot I'd like to ask: is this only in England then?

The small country north of England. It's called;

Northern England.

 

[sufferinsilence]

The small country north of England. It's called;

Northern England.

I know you don't live in England I was referring to the OP's opinion.