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Subject: Warren Jolly Actions at CAP Unauthorized
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:29:24 -0600
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
To: <removed>


Dear Certified Partners and CAP Members

It is with my deepest regret that I must send the following information today as a warning to anyone contemplating working with Warren Jolly or who has been a certified partner of CAP. Please read the letter I received below my statement so you understand why I feel forced to act now. Prior to reading that let me state:

1. I am the founder of CAP and majority shareholder in Affiliate Media Inc. I owned CasinoAffiliatePrograms.com long before I ever met Warren Jolly.

2. When House Winnings failed as a master affiliate for Tradal I was approached by Warren Jolly and his partner at House Winnings and asked if I would allow them to help monetize CAP and handle sales. Prior to that we did NOT charge a fee for programs to be listed at CAP so there was little revenue coming in, but that wasnt my focus in creating this community.

3. Once I agreed to help out Warren and his partner, who were only 18th at the time and had no prior experience or degree, we formed Affiliate Programs Inc. which later became Affiliate Media Inc.

4. Warren Jolly was given a minority shareholder position and seat on the new company board. His task was to increase reveneus at CAP and join in the growth of that venture.

5. During the first few years with the new company Warren performed admirably and acted as a real asset to us and our industry. Unfortunately as time went on he become bolder and lesss receptive to any input regarding sales or operation of our retail division.

6. He has repeatedly boosted the certifications fees far beyond any level he was authorized too. I had asked that a maximum increase of 20% per year be honored and he agreed verbally then went on to charge whatever he felt the client would bear. This damaged many relationships we have or had with our certified partners. He stressed that we had every right to charge whatever he could get and to stay out of sales. I bit my lip and went on focusing on the things I enjoyed which were the community and member relations.

7. Last year Warren told me he wanted to open a poker room. I was opposed to the idea but he went ahead and signed a contract with a provider under a false name and informed me after the fact we were now in the poker business. He asked if I would manage the project and also handle a legitmate client that wanted to re-enter the casino business. I was hesitant, but was backed into a corner as we couldnt do these sort of things under the Affiliate Media banner as it would be a conflict of interest with what CAP did. That is why we formed Effective Media Group. I didnt see any workable alternative so I went along with Warren yet again. For this I owe everyone an apology. I should have put my foot down then and I didnt.

8. Moving forward its my intention to regain control of my comapny and to have Warren Jolly removed from any managemnt position within our company or restricted from doing any further damage to CAP or Affiliate Media Inc. When that occurs I will lower all certification fees to a more reasonable level and work towards repairing any damaged relationships we have with our present and former certified partners.

9. The staff at Affiliate Media is top notch and I do intend to retain everyone in their current postions. The only change I am seeking is to remove Warren Jolly from day to day management of our California Offices as I believe he has been mismanaging our affairs and has most likely been syphoning monies off without the knowledge of myslef or the other shareholder.

10. The event team and the publishing arm of CAP are also top notch performers and will be retained and remain unchanged.

10. Please read what I receievd via email today which has promted this action. Over the weekend Warren removed me from his skype contacts and phone mail and last week I was informed he was hiring an Admin named Greg to replace "The Professor" in managing the community and our forums so I have to act now to prevent this rogue from effectively stealing my own company:

From: Gambling Ananymous [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Warren Jolly

Hello Lou,

I speak on behalf of many here - we as a group of affiliate managers are disatisfied with your business partner's actions over the past number of years and we hope to see you stand your ground and continue managing cap.

You should be aware that he's been taking money from a number of affiliate programs, for 'consutling services' and puting it into several of his personal/company bank accounts. We can provide more information if need be to assist you with your case.

We thought you should also know that your 'so-called' partner is going to announce stepping down from Effective Media this week, and he's going to put the blame on the past months events on to you, including the cardspike fiasco.

The bottom line is that we will not allow warren to take over the cap business affairs.
 
Three questions:

1. Why didn't this take place right after #6?

2. Why now? Because they were called out during the cardspike "fiasco?"

3. Would this letter have been written if #2 never happened?

Damage control...too little, too late, IMO.
 
I posted today and sent email because I knew I was going to be banned soon.

The Professor has indeed been banned at CAP. Warren not only wants to steal control of our company. Now he has stolen my voice. Problem is he can't ban me everywhere.

95% of the negative stuff thats happened over the past few years was because I am physically located in Florida and our company offices are in California. Also I have a family to support and I was trying to avoid a long drawn out legal battle if I tried to rein Warren in.
 
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I'm sure many of you have seen the recent post made by the Professor (Louis Fabiano), which came as a shock to all of the staff and shareholders at CAP. It is a move out of sheer desperation to shift the blame over all of these years for heinous actions that were NEVER approved or favored by the rest of the CAP team. Many of the respectable industry leaders were waiting for this man to fall off the deep end and he finally did. Do not believe or fall for the lies.

We will soon be posting the REAL truth (surely you can understand the legal implications here of making emotional, hot-headed posts...which coincidentially enough you will not see anymore!). In the meahwhile, now that the Professor has been banned for his lies, expect to see a LOT of positive change here at CAP. I will post updates as soon as possible on both matters.

--

C_Note says : Dem bastard lawyers gonna make a mint out of this fight
 
If The Professor has really banned at CAP or is this the same as
oh my health is not well I need to retire or

oh I was away an came back an my mother was Ill

is this just a ploy to make people think that the man that had
Steve put in a beat down situation at London and the calling out of J Todd
just pulling a stunt to try an cover his tracks again?????


he tried it once

or as they say is it really


an the walls came tumbling down

Cindy
 
7. Last year Warren told me he wanted to open a poker room. I was opposed to the idea but he went ahead and signed a contract with a provider under a false name and informed me after the fact we were now in the poker business. He asked if I would manage the project and also handle a legitmate client that wanted to re-enter the casino business. I was hesitant, but was backed into a corner as we couldnt do these sort of things under the Affiliate Media banner as it would be a conflict of interest with what CAP did. That is why we formed Effective Media Group. I didnt see any workable alternative so I went along with Warren yet again. For this I owe everyone an apology. I should have put my foot down then and I didnt.

Lou I cannot believe you have the nerve how you treated EVERYONE in this industry for seeking the truth which you denied then to come here to try to use this as your voice.I am sure you went kicking and screaming all the way to the bank with these high fees too.Please Do not take us for being stupid -I am stupid because I actually thought you didn't own a poker room.How can a majority stock holder be backed into a corner?Now warren is the bad guy and you are a victim who did nothing?How can you ?The time for this letter was two months ago before you went after everyone who exposed all these things.Also look at the mods who went to your defense , who bought your spin -hook ,line and sinker?

Judy
 

I am not buying that Lou did all this himself so please don't count on Lou taking the fall alone.I personally am done with CAP , there is dirt on everyone .For me -Warren put just as much spin on this story as Lou.I excuse the front mods who really were taken advantage for their good intentions to want to do good in this industry and had no way to know the TRUTH.Gamtrak/Robin was very passionate about defending CAP and i believe she thought there was no ownership of cardspike.She has taken alot of abuse in forums for defending CAP ,shame on Lou and Warren and any other person for using people this way.
 
I am not buying that Lou did all this himself so please don't count on Lou taking the fall alone.I personally am done with CAP , there is dirt on everyone .For me -Warren put just as much spin on this story as Lou.I excuse the front mods who really were taken advantage for their good intentions to want to do good in this industry and had no way to know the TRUTH.Gamtrak/Robin was very passionate about defending CAP and i believe she thought there was no ownership of cardspike.She has taken alot of abuse in forums for defending CAP ,shame on Lou and Warren and any other person for using people this way.

I personally think that Dominique took the abuse more so then Gamtrak/Robin
IMO I know she was given Hell-0 here an she is owed some I am sorry's an I will extend the 1st 1 I am sorry Dominique

Cindy
 
Also look at the mods who went to your defense , who bought your spin -hook ,line and sinker?

Judy
So you want to get personal now huh? Please don't bring me into this!

You won't see the GPWA and other reputable forums trying to make this in to a fight like you seem to be trying to do so you should follow suit! We all need to work together NOT fight!

The professor will not STAY banned for long you can take THAT to the bank!
 
So you want to get personal now huh? Please don't bring me into this!

You won't see the GPWA and other reputable forums trying to make this in to a fight like you seem to be trying to do so you should follow suit! We all need to work together NOT fight!

The professor will not STAY banned for long you can take THAT to the bank!

I agree yall do need to work to gether with Honesty Integrity an no name calling you have a bully attitude why?

an of course we all know he wont stay banned its a ploy to try an get people back on CAPS side we can read between the lines

Cindy:rolleyes:
 
I agree yall do need to work to gether with Honesty Integrity an no name calling you have a bully attitude why?

Cindy:rolleyes:

Not being an affiliate I have not said much about this entire CAP/Cardspike debacle. I didn't agree with bashing Dom or anyone else that has been sane, rational, and respectful with their beliefs. My honest opinion is that Gamtrak is very passionate about her involvement in the industry and simply has a very defensive attitude when it comes to CAP, her home. But, I do believe she is very aggressive at times, which makes her part of the problem, and helps to make this industry look bad.

At the rate CAP is imploding, I think all the unethical and immoral behavior by these major industry leaders is assuring that The USA is unlikely to see regulation and legal gambling in the near future.
 
10. Please read what I receievd via email today which has promted this action. Over the weekend Warren removed me from his skype contacts and phone mail and last week I was informed he was hiring an Admin named Greg to replace "The Professor" in managing the community and our forums so I have to act now to prevent this rogue from effectively stealing my own company

I have received about 40 PM's and messages today asking if I am the new Admin at CAP. I am not. I don't know who Greg is but it's not G Powell.
Wanted to clear that up ;)
 
So you want to get personal now huh? Please don't bring me into this!

You won't see the GPWA and other reputable forums trying to make this in to a fight like you seem to be trying to do so you should follow suit! We all need to work together NOT fight!

The professor will not STAY banned for long you can take THAT to the bank!

Robin - I dont know how to take this , I was giving an opinion that they were not fair to the cap mods yourself included who defended them against all this card spike trauma .I think you need to take a chill pill and learn to have a conversation .Twice in as many days you have replied to me in this way.
Lou drops this bomb that they do in fact own a poker room ,the same poker room they have been raking everyone over the coals for and we are not suppose to have a reaction?Am I missing anything here?
 
This definitely sounds like a money earner for the lawyers.

Lou first you put it in writing that you had nothing to do with cardspike and now you put it in writing that you did in fact actually own the poker room.... but it was Warren's idea.

Pointing out the obvious here... I think you may have a credibility problem with all this.
 
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Please keep personal digs/insults out of this thread. Thanks.

Simmo I posted Also look at the mods who went to your defense , who bought your spin -hook ,line and sinker?
how is this attacking robin ?Please is my english much worst than i thought?Take what private i was actually feeling sorry for the cap mods and feel they too have been taken advantage of in this.

Judy
 
I have recieved from a good souce a well read it for yourself

There were numerous pages posted publicly at CAP the other day, which have since been moved or deleted. Here are a couple of key posts that set things in motion:

Quote:
One thing I would like to see again is my CAP Community News here at CAP. For the past two weeks I have filmed them and sent them in and stayed late doing it and they are not getting posted by the Califorina Office. So the Professor is being censored right here at CAP.

The videos I did were not controversial either I was wishing people good luck on Friday 13th and a nice Valentines Day along with welcoming our new certified partners and talking about Cancun. It was never aired.

This weeks video was much the same but I also wished Dom a swift recovery and told her we missed her input here at CAP.

Neither Video has been posted. Thats why I may be forced to do Uncensored Videos just so people remember Im here and I can stay connected with the community. Some people, as evidenced in posts here, and by the lack of my Community News Videos, dont want that to happen. I am not going to give up what I worked so hard to build. Like I said, for eight years everything was great and we had all the support in the world. Then BANG we have all this over the course of maybe six months and I am being offered up as some sort of sacrifical lamb.

CAP may be taken down by hateful competitors and phoney friends, but the whole industry will suffer, so be careful what you wish for.

I just hope the calvary rides in and helps me save CAP and does it without trying to force me out in the process. Ultimately I do believe good will prevail and those who chose the evil path to business building will fail.

I wouldnt be surprised if I am not accidently banned too. Or I am labeled as not rational because I dont want to do as I am told.

Arjun (Warren's brother) will undoubtably pop in later and say there were technical issues or the team was unable to post my videos because of some time issue or they were working feverishly on it as we spoke. If my Community News videos dont come back I will do uncensored ones on Youtube and then I will reveal alot of things people have asked about but I couldnt discuss openly as I didnt want to aggravate the situation and I thought some were working with us externally and internally in good faith when that is not the case.

90% of whats being blamed on CAP and Me in particular occured against my will and without my authorization. I tried to play clean up and and sing the party line but thats going to come to and end soon if this censorship and behind the scenes politics doesnt stop now.

End Quote
an my sources thoughts were see below:

Now they'll have some theatrical posting, Warren will resign, and Lou will get his beloved CAP back and he'll gain back some sympathy amongst the ranks for what Warren put the poor man through. Except Warren won't really have resigned. He'll be a silent partner lurking in the shadows.

The entire show will be Academy Award winning, errrr, CAP award winning!


Cindy
an now we have the Professer posting here hmmmmmmm imagine that
just like a well written movie but they lost the plot
 
FYI I just got back from WAMU and Warren has stolen over $2Million dollars from our bank accounts since January. On Friday before I could post he stole almost all the money we had in that account and this was prior to my posting or emailing anything.

I dont expect players or people who have a negative view of CAP to care and thats fine. But I do want affiliates and the Programs to be aware of the situation and whats going on.

I have a pdf of unauthorized withdawels from just January and February here:
*snip*

I am still locked out at CAP and no one at the California Offices is responding to me.
 
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Nope lotso Warren is full owner of Cardspike. He always was. EMG was retained as a consultant for Cardspike and again due to the situation I had little choice but to do what was necessary to try to protect CAP and AMI
 
FYI everyone - I "unapproved" one of Lou's posts containing a PDF link. I haven't deleted it, but I want Bryan to make the call on that one as it's his forum and ultimately his responsibilty for the content.
 
Dom Warren hasnt called me for nearly two weeks and he blocked me on Skype and removed me from SMS messaging too last week. I doubt he wants to work anything out. He has the money.
 
Tough to prove anything if my pdfs are removed Simmo. I hope Bryan will be fair and allow me to show whats being done. Even if you dont like me personally, it isnt right.
 
Ok I guess it was silly coming here, but since I cant post in my own forum anymore I had to try to get the word our somehow.

If this was happening to you lotso or Jas you wouldnt be so quick to shout me down.
 
Slow down dude...

This is probably the ONLY place you will get a fair hearing.

Lou you know I really dislike you, But I for one am willing to hear you out.
Of course the final call is up to Bryan and I think most of us can agree that Bryan is one of the fairest people in this business.
 
Tough to prove anything if my pdfs are removed Simmo. I hope Bryan will be fair and allow me to show whats being done. Even if you dont like me personally, it isnt right.

Hi Lou

Nothing personal, but the PDF contains other numbers which may or may not be bank account details of companies you associate with, but in the wrong hands could be harmful. So playing it safe.
 
Ok I guess it was silly coming here, but since I cant post in my own forum anymore I had to try to get the word our somehow.

If this was happening to you lotso or Jas you wouldnt be so quick to shout me down.

No one is shouting you down Lou. Myself I am still digesting all the information that has come to light.

I am guessing Simmo unapproved the post with the pdf attachment to protect you. He is one of the fairest people I know in the industry.
 
Ok I guess it was silly coming here, but since I cant post in my own forum anymore I had to try to get the word our somehow.

If this was happening to you lotso or Jas you wouldnt be so quick to shout me down.
FYI Professor, TheCPA extended an offer to post your side at the GIA. I trust them guys so you may want to take up the offer if you want it all out.
 
Guys I have been receiving information from an Affiliate Program thats been kind enough to tip me off for the last few weeks as to whats been happening. Here is something they sent today:


Whats Ironic is I introduced Bob to Warren aff CAP Spring Break in Cyrpus and sold him to the moon as I really do believe he's one of the best SEO guys on the planet.

I guess this also explains why a mutual associate with Warren and I on the publishing end of the business talked to Warren on Friday and told me Bob was supposed to call me over the weekend. The call never came. My events coordinator has not responsded to any of my emails either through out all this so again I can see why.

What's Ironic there.... Warren was asking that all sales and accounting for CAP Events be moved in house so the event planners would only have to "concentrate" on setting up the shows. He planned to hire in house event planners once that transition took place so AMI would have 100% of the revenues instead of a Joint Venture like we had been working under. :notworthy
 
Warren has on multiple occasions swindled money into his offshore accounts in cypus and in the united states. We're looking into the details but we know of one account held in cyprus where monies were diverted into.
These are some very serious accusations.
You might want to make sure you can back a statement like that up.
 
Hi everybody, I have not posted here for a long long time so I thought I would take a peek. From what i see from here and other boards lots of ya have not had much time to work nor update your sites.

I am going to do some updates on many of my sites and hopefully get an increase on my SERPS. Ya gotta keep your eye on the ball ya all.

Hey Bryan hope all is well!

Brian
 

Au contraire...i've saved a ton by being distracted from Thunderstruck :D

(But I take your point as a very valid one Brian)
 
I know my bank statements would read
withdraw amount balance
deposit amount balance
so to me its fishy an it went back to Jan 20
that he was transfering funds
I believe it was that cash was missing
sorry something doesnt add up
it takes you a MONTH to notice 2 Million gone

last I knew when there was 2 Names on a buisness an on like large sums like that it would take 2 signatures to withdraw funds

an Lou I picture you logging into that bank account an lookin at that balance daily

I also find it odd back when all this CardSpike Cap etc was bein exposed here that YOU did not comment once even when it was asked of you to no it was Dom an Gamtrak posting here

so yeah something for sure does not add up at all

Posting a sorry to J Todd a month after the fact an only when it was brought to your attention

Cindy
 
Lou is it true that you only own 40% of CAP now?I am shocked by this as I am sure most of us are if it is true ,I would have bet my last dollar you would hold on to 51%.I cant see any pdf so can't comment on any bank statement and 2 million dollars missing.
Not all business people check their account daily so can see if one partner could be in the dark at least til a bank statement came in.
 
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