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Influx of spam from Rizk, Casumo, and Dunder casino

spintee

spintee

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Any body notice a influx of spam?

Well I have and some from reputable brands, I just add a few, one is from casumo which has some link to dunder (Investors I think was the last statement we got)But also of Rizk which runs from the same platform as Dunder MT SECURE (Gut's operation)

I want theses idiots named and shamed, You guys have got the power to let us know who is registered with the affiliate link so please let us know, Its the only way they will learn,

A dodgy casino I can understand but when coming from good brands it's not good,

Rizk


rizk.com/gb?btag=a_3632b_1445c_welcome-uk

Dunder

dunder.com/gb/page/bonuses?btag=654616_29CB2BBB9E98431E840EB679C3E80851

Casumo

casumo.com/affiliate/?targetCampaignId=default&btag=655904_3398207E145F44A9B1ECCB9B77DF14E8&transaction_id=1023c101acda89aa1bf25a5f974836&pid=117194&bid=1546

rizk.webp

dunder.webp

casumo.webp
 


Thanks for this Spintee, clearly we do not condone this type of Spam and we will look into it and shut it down ASAP
 
conker said:
Interesting Spintee, hadn't actually thought of using the afflinks to name and shame. Even if they are not named and shamed these operators have the option of closing these accounts or at the very least giving these guys a good ticking off. The more spammers we can weed out the better this industry will be.
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Absolutely, The more we can fish out the better, As an affiliate yourself you know how much hard work goes into stuff, than we get the rogues and big multi affiliates spamming the life out of us, I know Dunover done a great post about stopping affiliate spam but posted in there numerous times but unfortunately that thread seems to have come to an abrupt halt, So I thought I try and give another call out,

I honestly do not mind emails as long as there from legit casino and I have opted for emails, There has to be a line somewhere such as an email telling me a new game as been added, to me is a pointless one, Unless of course its letting me know there are a few free spins :) But rarely that happens,

But just in the last two weeks it seems as if my details have been leaked as wow I have never seen so many, I have a number of email accounts & do they get blasted with spam ? NO They are only used for certain things.
Also there are links in alot of emails to unsubscribe, I am no way going to use such facility as than they will know I have an active email,
 
Email lists seems to move round the internet in mysterious ways. In the past I have seen them for sale on forums and other places. Some of these guys just buy the lists and spam the craps out of them. You are absolutely right, when you are trying to do things the right way they come in and make it harder for everyone else. Hopefully those operators mentioned will seek to get rid of affiliates like this.

Thanks for sharing Spintee. I will follow your lead if I get any.
 
For every spamming affiliate removed there'll only be another one to replace them. I'm still getting stuff like this with alaming regularity in my junk folder from sites I'm already registered at for years of course, often with the promise of a batch of glorious and much-coveted Starburst spins :mad:

Don't really know the world of affiliates and don't claim to be an expert on the matter but it seems a bit reminiscent of the Wild West. With casinos regulating our playing habits 'for our own protection' through gritted teeth, it appears as if no real checks are being made as to how people get signed up, but more of a percentages game and how much business they can attract.

Perhaps casinos themselves could do more to actively follow affiliates' methods and audit their work and not just let them loose on an unsuspecting public, particularly given that people's sensitive personal information is being touted about willy nilly....
 
I agree for every affiliate removed there will be two more to replace, The thing is if we can get the word out and people will post more than its got to have some sort of impact,

Just imagine if an affiliate was due 15k than being told that there not getting a cent :) This is what should be happening, I think there would be alot less as they know they will be risking it, I have signed up to affiliate programs my self, Its like buying a bus ticket into town, Some are more curious than others,

I also know there is some bigger operations that take on peoples affiliate links etc and when people sign up to certain sites they are also agreeing to receive such mail, BUT again this is rouge also as hidden box's to tick and what not you shouldn't be there in the first instance,

100% fact that email of Dunder from niteyballs.com I ubsubscribed some weeks back, I was messing about trying to find some hidden links and accidentaily pressed the unsub button in the new window, So thats at least one unsolisted email,

I also know that theses mass email companies do warn people and have rules such as must have unsubscribe link and recipients must of agreed to emails, But its not worth the paper its written on
 
Another from casumo, There is a unsub link but why should I have to Unsub for something I have not subscribed too? Beside why should I risk giving them a active email account,

noreply @ exklsv.com

xxx.casumo.com/affiliate/?destination=registration&btag=655202_7BD5ED978A3E411DB4523589544346FF&pid=7244&bid=1545

cu.GIF
 
Its still comin, I luv the unsub? where is that going to take me, I know that line is my email provider but what twats are doing now days is adding that in, so when you do it is giving them a vaild source


dunder.com/gb/page/bonuses?btag=654616_203E881117344DAFAC183A48C67F247A

dui.webp
 
Alex-Casumo said:
Hi spintee, thanks for info. Spam is nothing we support, we play fair and we expect our partners to do likewise.

We will investigate this case.
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There still coming in, Just take a look at the header? BankAccount Two separate emails, As you can see there from the same affiliate, but use a different dresses at the bottom, and its not even writing but a picture, Its not just your site but I will follow up with the other spam from other sites

No1,

casumo.com/en-gb/let-me-in?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=601192

casu.webp

cau1.webp

casu2.webp

No2

casumo.com/en-gb/let-me-in?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=601192

c1.webp

c2.webp
 

Who thought that header would be a good idea :what:

Cheesy at best and just plain annoying, I hate these type of spam emails in general. No different to the ones I get in my junk folder stating I've won five grand compensation for that 'recent accident', or asking me to click a link to claim my Nigerian Lottery prize :mad:

Really poor show from these affiliates
 

Unsubscribe links on any spam email should never be clicked - all it does is tell them, your account email address is still actively monitored. You'll just get bombarded with more spam from either them or they'll share / sell your details to others!
 
lord flashheart said:
Unsubscribe links on any spam email should never be clicked - all it does is tell them, your account email address is still actively monitored. You'll just get bombarded with more spam from either them or they'll share / sell your details to others!
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Oh yes, very true, The last few days there has been an increase in spam, I would love to know where they originate from, I think the casino site in question should let us know, Who or what company is behind them,
 
Alex-Casumo said:
@spintee Can you please try to share full link (with Affiliate ID) so I can check who it is?

Thanks
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I am getting 3 different tags when click link, I already added the first ones, And prety hard to catch the other as quick, And cannot see them actual link's in the source,



???://pexcosine.com/198127f86294320800/19688_13218887_25/35_229603787_605039_0_12206320_2581755_0_626_77486_13218887_0



???://www.casumo.com/affiliate/?destination=registration&btag=656596_C344763BC52C43A79A20C1D62F71CB9D&click_id=152524



???.casumo.com/en-gb/let-me-in?utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=601192
 

Right the 'btag' number means 'banner tag' that's basically the affiliate's code for that marketing picture/banner or promotion that the spammer has chosen to use from the affiliate's marketing library.

id=152524 is the code for the spamming piece of shit and that's how the affiliate identifies the twat and pays him/her.
 
dunover said:
Right the 'btag' number means 'banner tag' that's basically the affiliate's code for that marketing picture/banner or promotion that the spammer has chosen to use from the affiliate's marketing library.

id=152524 is the code for the spamming piece of shit and that's how the affiliate identifies the twat and pays him/her.
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The id= is all the rep should need to identify the asshole concerned.
 
Its becoming a bloody joke now, two this morning whiten a few minutes, I take it there of the same arss wipe,


casumo.com/affiliate/?targetCampaignId=default&btag=655904_A0B9A6D139584C9ABC85175CECBEA181&sub_id=wPETRHBJSGUAJ1O0HC51CBD4&pid=115385&bid=1546



casumo.com/affiliate/?destination=registration&btag=656596_4A10338B72F941B2B008344E05F37A05&click_id=156064&pid=601192&bid=1545

n1.webp
 
I noticed an influx of spam like these a while back on my email account-I have had the address for years and already had a lot of subscriptions/memberships/competition entries and associated spam connected to it so it was getting quite a pain to sift out the fake from the legit (being on ipad majority of the time, I never used the website/laptop version nor could really be too bothered to set up the settings to automatically weed out the crap-I dealt with reading and deleting them for a while but soon I was getting so many more into the 100s with each new login, it was such a pain to scroll through them all each day to assess for scams/russian brides or erection supplements and secretly hope that the subject line really might be a legit one for once-especially those with ridiculous notifications like "$549,787,000 has been sent to your bank account" HA!

I ended up transferring my 'proper' casino accounts to a new address that I set up-solely for my own ease of organisation and use it for those trusted sites I play at most/deposit with etc to avoid the 'spam-mageddon' and also to make it easier so that I wouldn't risk accidentally deleting the real offers from those sites for bonuses/freebies from those sites. Thankfully I have not had any of that spam junk emails/affiliate or otherwise since but having kept the other email account open, it's easy for me to spot the fakies-if I have transferred my 'serious' memberships to the new addy and it's there, then it's gotta be a scammy junk or otherwise it's a junky affiliate from some other site I left connected to that one...

I can't recall having had any from those mentioned up top in this thread in particular like Rizk/Casumo, and I haven't got any screenshots or anything, but wanted to add in case others had noticed similar: LeoVegas and Vera&John are two I can think of--I always had really legit looking spam emails for them with signup/deposit bonuses etc etc But also, given I sometimes used to sign up to so many things with that account like competitions, newsletters and so on I was never too bothered to look further into them-addresses/affiliates etc... Usually just hit the trash can on the majority of em... haha, maybe after having a nosey to see if it was legit or whether the offer was a really good deal LoL
 
Alex-Casumo said:
@spintee

I will check with an Affiliate what can be done. BTW did you unsubscribe?
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I also had another since my last post,

No way am i unsubing so they have a running email, They already lie about there adresse, each email has a different one, Yet I have clicked on the ubsub link and all take me to the same page to put my email in, Eact same link /

.optout-xjql.net/o-dtdz-l44-b7a0c3833a874e1449512d632a79d06f

If possible I would like to know who the compalny / people are, As I am going to make an official complaint, As I know its the same idiots behind other emails,
 

It should be fixed now, please contact me if you receive more of these.
 
Alex-Casumo said:
It should be fixed now, please contact me if you receive more of these.
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I just had 2 in the last 10 minutes, Not from your site but about loans and a leovegas one, Of the same company, another different addressee at the bottom,

Both taking me to that unsub link, Its getting beyond a joke now, If you know who theses are than please let us know, There putting a bad name to companys
 
Alex-Casumo said:
@spintee please give me the Affiliate ID so I can check
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the last 3

From: Confirmation Required <[email protected]>

.casumo.com/affiliate/?destination=registration&btag=656596_2B1EDC89135C4A6492A5F4374E4849F4&click_id=173849&pid=601192&bid=1545


--------------------------------------------

From: Confirmation Required <[email protected]>

casumo.com/affiliate/?destination=registration&btag=656596_7084C4C864B44C2CB5C468F89BAD420E&click_id=173849&pid=601192&bid=1545

-------------------------------------------------------------------------


info @ subsume.ibilitybeauty.net

From: Casumo <[email protected]>


casumo.com/affiliate/?destination=registration&btag=656596_EB3BACD9C2FC4DF0BDD6018E8660F077&click_id=173849&pid=601192&bid=1545


cas.webp
 
Alex-Casumo said:
OK I will get back to you soon. :cool:
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exactly the same as the ones above

You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.


You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.


Getting tons of spam from this affiliate, for various shit.

You say you have sorted them but you clearly haven't as some of the links from earlier in the thread are still working.
Close the affiliates account, redirect his links to a 404. Simple, and if they are caught before payment, if they register a new affiliate account, and it happens again, they will sharp stop if they know they aren't getting paid.

Well done on being the only rep to reply to the thread though, at least you are trying to do something :)
 
It might seem they come on to help but thats about it, 2 weeks ago I was told I get back to you soon Well only thing I have heard is more spam coming in,

And your right, I am getting various shit from the sender / company, I know its only emails but I got all this shit stored and I am building up a case, If casumo will not spill the beans to us who is behind them than surely one of theses company's that are trying to stop the shit will be interested,

And casumo has to pay someone to them links, So they canot deny who is behind them

 
spintee said:
It might seem they come on to help but thats about it, 2 weeks ago I was told I get back to you soon Well only thing I have heard is more spam coming in,

And your right, I am getting various shit from the sender / company, I know its only emails but I got all this shit stored and I am building up a case, If casumo will not spill the beans to us who is behind them than surely one of theses company's that are trying to stop the shit will be interested,

And casumo has to pay someone to them links, So they canot deny who is behind them
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A casino sold these addresses too as the email I use is ONLY for casinos (well amazon too but sure they haven't sold them to shitty affiliates), it has never been put online anywhere apart from casino sign ups.

Casinos are responsible for their affiliates so it should be in their interests to stop the spam.

King casino is another the affiliate promotes, a lot!
 
If the casino reps can't get a grip, maybe the ICO will. The ICO has already launched an investigation, and from their opening shot it's clear they can FORCE the affiliate programs to divulge the personal details of offending affiliates who send this to UK players.

Affiliate programs should be able to stop this dead, but they tend to do as little as possible, the "slap on the wrist" approach, but the affiliate still gets to keep the money they made from the spam, and often ignores the polite request to stop spamming.

The ICO on the other hand, can fine these affiliates up to £500,000 which for most is probably WORSE than having their account closed and payments confiscated.

Most of these spammers are big affiliates as they spam for numerous brands, and may well not care too much if they lose just one or two.

Whilst it seems the ICO is currently focussing on SMS spam, they will no doubt look into email spam in due course.
 

What they should do is fine the casino the £500k as well as the affiliate, as that way they might actually do something about it.
Good luck getting some guy in china to pay a fine to a uk body for spamming.
 
colinsunderland said:
What they should do is fine the casino the £500k as well as the affiliate, as that way they might actually do something about it.
Good luck getting some guy in china to pay a fine to a uk body for spamming.
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That's the problem the ICO will have to face. In the end, they will realise that the viable solution is to go after the casinos that are spamming the UK market. This will at least make the otherwise reputable and UK licensed casinos take proper responsibility for the third parties they engage for marketing. It is one thing the ICO do understand, the current system is not fit for purpose because it's hard to define where responsibility lies when an affiliate is doing the spamming, and their aim is to prevent certain marketing structures from "falling between the cracks" in the current regulations.

If the ICO have any sense, they will realise that if they go after affiliates, the worst offenders are likely to be out of reach because they are knowingly breaking all the rules, and so will have made sure to be located in a safe jurisdiction well out of the reach of the ICO. Going after the casinos will place the responsibility on them to police their affiliates and other marketing contractors, and the threat of a £500,000 fine for failing to act would probably mean the end of the weak "slap on the wrist" approach to affiliates, or the even worse "turning a blind eye because they bring in substantial traffic".
 
Thats exactly right, maybe remove the license until the spam has been stopped, bet the casinos would shit themselves then and manage to stop it instantly.

At the moment they couldn't give a stuff about it, look at Casumo in this thread, all the right words, but takes a few minutes to close an affiliate account. Weeks later they are still spamming. The haven't closed the account because they are happy with the extra customers even though its spam, and legit affiliates are at a disadvantage. Just using Casumo as an example as they have been active in the thread, but by no means are the only ones to do the exact same thing.

Skybet have absolutely zero tolerance to spam, I've reported spam twice to them and within 15 minutes the links go to 404's. Thats how it should be done, and no reason why it shouldn't be by all casinos.

I forwarded the email to casumo before i saw this thread, wonder if I get a reply.
 

This is not the same affiliate as spintee's I will tell the Affiliate to remove the email from the list, just send me you address to PM.

For all reference we don't sell or give the email database to any of our Affiliates. They have their own sources and databases.

BTW spintee I thought that spam from the Affiliate stopped and I didn't get the notification that you are still getting the spam email.


For all: If you are getting the SPAM email from Affiliates, just send me the Affiliate ID and your username or email to DM so I can sort it out.

Thank you all for understanding.
 

I received one on the 3rd I think of a different aff, And a few days later by the same person as before, Since than all seems to be ok,

I know you say that you do not give aff's email or dresses but the thing is there are still spamming us making your site look bad, Also why would you want theses people to promote you, They obvious got theses emails from some corrupt source and by them sending the emails it looks as if you do not mind how they received such info,


btag=656736_78DAB71475DE41D68ED07DD1CEFFC36F&dm_i=3ZMU&pid=633305&bid=5459
 

The Affiliates needs some time to remove the emails, I notify the other 2 Affiliates to remove your email as well.

We are trying to work closely with Affiliates so this kind of things not happen, but as you may know we cannot control what they do 100%.
 

It is the same affiliate or there are links between them, as the email is almost identical, with the same 'YOU HAVE BEEN PAID' subject line, and same type of made up address, whats the chances different affiliates would photoshop to make the same image and also use the same subject, and change the sender name to Casumo Casino

Why not close the affiliates account, they are in breach of your terms and conditions? As I said the links are still working from earlier in the thread so you are obviously happy for the affiliate to spam people and not take action against them.

6.2 The Affiliate hereby undertakes, represents and warrants that:
(e) that it will not generate traffic to the Casumo Website by illegal or fraudulent activity, particularly but not limited to by:
(i) sending spam;

6.3 The Company reserves the right to freeze the Affiliates account and/or deduct money from the Affiliate if any traffic is deemed to have been referred through fraudulent means or in breach of the terms and conditions of the Agreement.
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No mention of any terms and conditions on the advert is a clear breach of the UKGC rules, and the significant terms aren't 1 click away. That alone should be enough for you to suspend the account at least.
 

Not pointing directly at cusmo it self, BUT if we as players breached a term such as max bet or disallowed games, We will soon see our payments disappear or account closed, But as soon as the casino making money from bent rules they turn a blind eye???

They canot have it both ways or when it suits them, But not only are affilates getting away with it there actually breaking U.K regs rules as well,
 
colinsunderland said:
ho hum, still getting spam from the same affiliate, obviously Casumo are happy to get customers from spam lists.
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Clearly Casumo are not living up to the accredited astandards set here.

Must not spam, and must take appropriate actions against any affiliates or any third parties who do spam.

So giving these affiliates an email address and tell them that this guy you can't spam because he's a member at Casinomeister?:eek2:

I haven't read this thread before so I didn't know they were doing that. Really bad. It's like when I got sms for a casino I wasn't a member at and they asked for my phone number so they could tell the guy to not send me sms. Idiots.

I know I read something from SIGMA. They talked about affiliates and obviously affiliates who are sending emails and phone spam are a separate cathegory. They are living on only sending that kind of spam. Nice!:rolleyes:

Obviously Casumo are condoning spam and that was a disappointment to read.
 
casumo.com/affiliate/?targetCampaignId=default&btag=655904_9092D6518CA54BE6A770BF5BC1581F66&sub_id=w5SFGVKK8U9TI6Q1H47U0O6G&pid=115385&bid=1546

thats the info for the sspam today, the link doesn't 404 and is the same as the one in post 19, from the 29th October, which clearly shows Casumo are happy to work with spamming twats, who take no notice of their affiliate managers, if they bothered to tell them to stop spamming.
 

We at Casumo are trying to get all of our Affiliates in order so this will not happened. I am here to help remove email address if needed. We are also preparing new measures so we can get lower number of complaints.

colinsunderland said:
casumo.com/affiliate/?targetCampaignId=default&btag=655904_9092D6518CA54BE6A770BF5BC1581F66&sub_id=w5SFGVKK8U9TI6Q1H47U0O6G&pid=115385&bid=1546

thats the info for the sspam today, the link doesn't 404 and is the same as the one in post 19, from the 29th October, which clearly shows Casumo are happy to work with spamming twats, who take no notice of their affiliate managers, if they bothered to tell them to stop spamming.
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Can you please send me your email via DM so I can remove it.
 
Alex-Casumo said:
We at Casumo are trying to get all of our Affiliates in order so this will not happened. I am here to help remove email address if needed. We are also preparing new measures so we can get lower number of complaints.
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Wouldn't it be smarter to remove the affiliates? That way you won't get any complaint.
That is what you're suppose to do and what we expect. That is what ''good'' casinos do.
 


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