WARNING Memo Casino - no license - taking UK bets

[The Dude]

We have reports about a unlicensed casino Memo-casino.com taking UK bets without a valid UK license. We have a complaint being processed at the moment concerning this - they are refusing to refund deposits made by invoalid bets.

But just take a look at the website footer, and you know it's dodgy:

That is the footer - no license - just a few platitude links to mimic the possibility that they care about you. They don't - they are here to fleece any sucker that signs up.

CASINOMEISTER WARNING: Memo-casino is a dodgy casino. Avoid at all costs.

 

[L&L-Jan]

I posted this on a Dutch forum as illegal gambling is getting pretty popular there. Kind tip if you want to take the risk as a player:

Scroll down to the footer of the site, no company information = red flag.
Open terms and conditions, no company name and the use of terms like: we/us/our = red flag

Bounce right away!

Good luck!

 

[mulven]

It's worth reporting them to the GCB, which is where they have a pending application for a licence.

The following casinos are owned by IntellogixSoft:

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• memo
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I found a certificate of operation for all of them apart from memo casino as I have been unable to find a country that isn't blocked whilst using a VPN.

This group is hiding their name and licence whilst trying to illegally take UK bets and I'm fairly sure that that violates what they agreed with the GCB.

EDIT: After like 25 countries, romania worked, still no footer (unlike the sisters sites) but in their terms and conditions it mentions the intellogixsoft stuff, confirming the link. The uk terms are scrubbed of this of course.

 

[justdoit]

It's worth reporting them to the GCB, which is where they have a pending application for a licence.

The following casinos are owned by IntellogixSoft:

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• memo
• You do not have permission to view link Log in or register now.
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I found a certificate of operation for all of them apart from memo casino as I have been unable to find a country that isn't blocked whilst using a VPN.

This group is hiding their name and licence whilst trying to illegally take UK bets and I'm fairly sure that that violates what they agreed with the GCB.

EDIT: After like 25 countries, romania worked, still no footer (unlike the sisters sites) but in their terms and conditions it mentions the intellogixsoft stuff, confirming the link. The uk terms are scrubbed of this of course.
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best place to report is in UKGC

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[mulven]

best place to report is in UKGC

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I guess hoping for the GCB to do anything would be a bit optimistic, should really void their application if all things were proper.

hopefully reporting them to UKGC helps get them removed from google results

 

[justdoit]

I guess hoping for the GCB to do anything would be a bit optimistic, should really void their application if all things were proper.

hopefully reporting them to UKGC helps get them removed from google results

they do remove them, any non UKGC casino gets remove if you report include Crypto Casinos

 

[Webzcas]

I guess hoping for the GCB to do anything would be a bit optimistic, should really void their application if all things were proper.

hopefully reporting them to UKGC helps get them removed from google results

Yes can confirm, after a long wait and slow start, the Gambling Commission are now very proactive from getting these sites removed from the google.co.uk index. As well as those sites that target individuals that are signed up to Gamstop.

So anything reported to them will get seen by a pair of eyes and actioned accordingly, where action is warranted.

 

[maxd]

FWIW I did find these on the site:

Nothing further to back any of this up, as if that would make a difference.

Costa Rica license (verified) = probably crap casino.
Costa Rica license (claimed but no details on offer) = 99% confirmed crap casino.

- Max

 

[mulven]

FWIW I did find these on the site:

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Same as when we encountered kinghills, swapping in some random costa rican crap when doing illegal stuff and hiding their curacao company name and licence which is present in other markets that view the website.

It would be refreshing if this kinda thing cost a company their GCB application but alas the curacao market wont have improved that much

 

[jasonuk]

Same as when we encountered kinghills, swapping in some random costa rican crap when doing illegal stuff and hiding their curacao company name and licence which is present in other markets that view the website.

We've seen split licenses in regulated markets for years (e.g. MGA + UKGC), but this seems to be an incoming development for the high seas...

By being "licensed" in Costa Rica (in the weakest possible sense, it's a worthless business license with no oversight) then Curacao can wash their hands of it because it's "not illegal" for them to do that - Costa Rica would then apply the same grey market tactics that Curacao has operated under (pre-CGCB) for years...

It clearly shows the intent though, these sites will keep going to lower and lower denominators to get what they want, and with fewer and fewer checks and balances... noting that Curacao was already at the low end!

Not that you have any safety net with Curacao... but the volume of fraudsters flocking to Costa Rica (or similarly, still in Curacao with a Costa Rica license... not that you can tell since no business information listed), I would be extremely careful with any site claiming to be licensed in Costa Rica or Anjouan - seeing the amount of shithole casinos popping up there, expect things to get a lot worse in the next 12 months in terms of scams.

 

[justdoit]

I guess hoping for the GCB to do anything would be a bit optimistic, should really void their application if all things were proper.

hopefully reporting them to UKGC helps get them removed from google results

UKGC forcing some gambling forums to hide crypto casinos

 

[jasonuk]

UKGC forcing some gambling forums to hide crypto casinos
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I don't think they are "forcing" in the sense they don't have jurisdiction over a site not based in the UK, however the threat of a delisting from Google UK might have a knock-on impact to their search ratings in other jurisdictions which would hurt them in the wallet.

Of course, "consider using a VPN" the immediate cop-out to encourage restricted players to see the list anyway... maybe the UKGC will have worked that part out when the three years needed to understand the crypto market is up .

Not that they should be advertising any crypto site to UK players with the current situation - Curacao properties can't accept us, and players should run a mile from Costa Rica and Anjouan properties.

 

[justdoit]

I don't think they are "forcing" in the sense they don't have jurisdiction over a site not based in the UK, however the threat of a delisting from Google UK might have a knock-on impact to their search ratings in other jurisdictions which would hurt them in the wallet.

Of course, "consider using a VPN" the immediate cop-out to encourage restricted players to see the list anyway... maybe the UKGC will have worked that part out when the three years needed to understand the crypto market is up .

Not that they should be advertising any crypto site to UK players with the current situation - Curacao properties can't accept us, and players should run a mile from Costa Rica and Anjouan properties.

this is from forum not google UK

 

[jasonuk]

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this is from forum not google UK

That is an interesting development, so the UKGC have discovered court orders then... not a new development, the media industry has been applying them aggressively for more than a decade (The Pirate Bay being blocked by UK ISPs in 2012).

BigWinBoard's argument about "overreach" is laughably weak though - it doesn't ask questions about jurisdiction because it applies to the UK only. If they don't target the UK market, and they don't operate in the UK... then they shouldn't really care, because such a block would only apply to UK-based ISPs.

Given their misjudged outburst, it suggests they do benefit from such visitors - and thus their argument rings hollow and they can either follow the rules in place or start blocking UK visitors themselves.

The method of attack from the UKGC is new, even if the intent isn't (e.g. age-verified images / demos on review sites, which achieved nothing but gave them a warm and fuzzy feeling).

Given how many threads we're seeing about UK people signing up to a shithole casino(tm) from a positive review on a "review site" and getting scammed, I agree with the UKGC on this one...

 

[justdoit]

That is an interesting development, so the UKGC have discovered court orders then... not a new development, the media industry has been applying them aggressively for more than a decade (The Pirate Bay being blocked by UK ISPs in 2012).

BigWinBoard's argument about "overreach" is laughably weak though - it doesn't ask questions about jurisdiction because it applies to the UK only. If they don't target the UK market, and they don't operate in the UK... then they shouldn't really care, because such a block would only apply to UK-based ISPs.

Given their misjudged outburst, it suggests they do benefit from such visitors - and thus their argument rings hollow and they can either follow the rules in place or start blocking UK visitors themselves.

The method of attack from the UKGC is new, even if the intent isn't (e.g. age-verified images / demos on review sites, which achieved nothing but gave them a warm and fuzzy feeling).

Given how many threads we're seeing about UK people signing up to a shithole casino(tm) from a positive review on a "review site" and getting scammed, I agree with the UKGC on this one...

all coz bigwinboard spoke the truth about UKGC, then UKGC replay on Mafia style to Bigwinboard,they are 1000s of gambling forums his the one to get attacked

 

[jasonuk]

all coz bigwinboard spoke the truth about UKGC, then UKGC replay on Mafia style to Bigwinboard,they are 1000s of gambling forums his the one to get attacked

Someone has to be first... and given how they've thrown their toys out of the pram it's clear they want the upsides (affiliate revenue from UK players) without the downside (following any guidelines in place from the local market). Their choice - play ball or go home.

It's funny, because what they've said about an "aggressive" regulatory stance from the UKGC is right (in the sense it negatively impacts player enjoyment and playtime) but at the same time the UKGC have been far too passive in dealing with problems - palming it off to ADR or needing three years to get to a solution.

 

[justdoit]

Someone has to be first... and given how they've thrown their toys out of the pram it's clear they want the upsides (affiliate revenue from UK players) without the downside (following any guidelines in place from the local market). Their choice - play ball or go home.

It's funny, because what they've said about an "aggressive" regulatory stance from the UKGC is right (in the sense it negatively impacts player enjoyment and playtime) but at the same time the UKGC have been far too passive in dealing with problems - palming it off to ADR or needing three years to get to a solution.

last week this casino ask me for sow on first £100 deposit, they even block me to play or withdraw as soones I made deposit, I told them no to sow close my account and refund my money, still waiting for refund for week now

 

[Johnny said]

IV played in the casino memo casino I deposit 847 ain't got nothing back I've shut my account now

 

[Muzza198342]

I can't withdraw my £1400. I contacted a 3rd they need a entire gaming history from Memo Casino. I've emailed them asking them to send. They told me to login into my account I can get it there but I can't because they suspended it. They keep trying to delay in sending it me. I've been chasing this up for a year now. Avoid this company and there sister company's. Do your Research before signing up to any Casino especially if its Based in Curacao

 

[dunover]

I can't withdraw my £1400. I contacted a 3rd they need a entire gaming history from Memo Casino. I've emailed them asking them to send. They told me to login into my account I can get it there but I can't because they suspended it. They keep trying to delay in sending it me. I've been chasing this up for a year now. Avoid this company and there sister company's. Do your Research before signing up to any Casino especially if its Based in Curacao

Yep, sadly you won't see a penny, it's a total scam.

 

[Muzza198342]

Yep, sadly you won't see a penny, it's a total scam.

They've been advertising under a special school in spalding UK. See the website bar see the name

 

[mulven]

They've been advertising under a special school in spalding UK. See the website bar see the name

What on earth made them choose that url! I will say that that's just an affiliate site rather than memo themselves. HOWEVER theres a chance the people behind memo may also operate these kinda affiliate sites but its less likely than it being an affiliate partner.

 

[Muzza198342]

What on earth made them choose that url! I will say that that's just an affiliate site rather than memo themselves. HOWEVER theres a chance the people behind memo may also operate these kinda affiliate sites but its less likely than it being an affiliate partner.

They've put it on there trustpilot. They claim they've got uk Curacao malta and Cyprus Licence but I got email from uk Gambling Commission and Malta saying they don't have any from there. I don't get reply from other 2.

 

[Muzza198342]

I think Memo Casino might be ran by Chinese as online scam. I searched something and this site called maths8.com came up and had review on Memo Casino and has Chinese writing on it. So I search China online casino Scams and there's been alot of online casino Scams. I'm not 100% ill have to dig a little deeper

 

[Guntis]

That school-related URL is just a one-page site, made to be used for spamming or for running ads on some platforms. It was a legitimate site before, but not anymore. They just found it among expired domains and put casino stuff on it.

Like in this case, a school and casino have nothing in common, and if you want, you can report such a site to Google. Sometimes they remove them from the search very quickly because misleading practices go against their guidelines. Reporting them should also stop them from running Google ads.

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1O Downing Street seems familiar, lol. That's BS of course. This is their page structured data.

 

[mulven]

They've put it on there trustpilot. They claim they've got uk Curacao malta and Cyprus Licence but I got email from uk Gambling Commission and Malta saying they don't have any from there. I don't get reply from other 2.

They don't, the affiliate site themselves have put up their own page which funnels users to the affiliate site. You know this as you've left reviews on both pages. very dodgy behaviour nonetheless the specialschool thing is so puzzling although was obviously an expired domain, just not sure why they'd pick it

 

[Muzza198342]

I think Memo Casino might be ran by Chinese as online scam. I searched something and this site called maths8.com came up and had review on Memo Casino and has Chinese writing on it. So I search China online casino Scams and there's been alot of online casino Scams. I'm not 100% ill have to dig a little deep

That school-related URL is just a one-page site, made to be used for spamming or for running ads on some platforms. It was a legitimate site before, but not anymore. They just found it among expired domains and put casino stuff on it.

Like in this case, a school and casino have nothing in common, and if you want, you can report such a site to Google. Sometimes they remove them from the search very quickly because misleading practices go against their guidelines. Reporting them should also stop them from running Google ads.

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1O Downing Street seems familiar, lol. That's BS of course. This is their page structured data.

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How did you get that structured data up

 

[Muzza198342]

I think Memo Casino might be ran by Chinese as online scam. I searched something and this site called maths8.com came up and had review on Memo Casino and has Chinese writing on it. So I search China online casino Scams and there's been alot of online casino Scams. I'm not 100% ill have to dig a little deep

How did you get that structured data up

Could you do it on maths8.com

 

[mulven]

I've just had a play with the nonsense affiliate site.

Ironically they funnel people to magicwin which is a full blown scam (0% payout, bogus made up licence numbers and blurb at the bottom, CM staff have addressed this specific scam before and probably this "casino included").

Memo on the other hand, whilst being a dodgy illegal casino, only has their scam metre turned up to 80-90% and a few people fall the cracks and get paid without KYC and some people get paid after huge ordeals whilst alot of people get screwed over for long periods and can't get their money out.

Pretty wild that someone knicked a defunct special school domain to pretend to look like a very dodgy casino to try and push people to click on links to other dodgy casinos which all turn out to link to magicwin, which is the dodgiest a casino can possibly be as its a 100% scam

On the topic of their licence, when I did an investigation into these sites and the platform they run on, MemoCasino was owned by IntellogixSoft which got approved for Curacao GCB licences. Their sister sites xtraspin and kingshill them, with the right vpn you can probably find memocasinos. They hide it to UK players ofcourse though. I was very disappointed when I saw their name on the list of approved companies.

 

[mulven]

Could you do it on maths8.com

haha no way theres another one from a maths8 blogpost called Hitachi Medical Systems. Surely these have relatively worthless SEO value!?

Not sure what the deal is with maths8, might have been bought for its SEO value, kept in tact and then had blog posts added for various affiliate sites (non gamstop casinos and the ones mentioned above for example).

They aren't the ones behind it though. There are 30-40 sites that use a platform called Extendy. I'm not sure how connected they all are. Some seem to be better than others (the ones licenced in kahnawake for example).

If I had to wager who was actually behind it i'd probably put money on someone in cyprus, ukraine or russia as those are hotspots for these kinda dodgy casino schemes.

 

[Muzza198342]

I've just had a play with the nonsense affiliate site.

Ironically they funnel people to magicwin which is a full blown scam (0% payout, bogus made up licence numbers and blurb at the bottom, CM staff have addressed this specific scam before and probably this "casino included").

Memo on the other hand, whilst being a dodgy illegal casino, only has their scam metre turned up to 80-90% and a few people fall the cracks and get paid without KYC and some people get paid after huge ordeals whilst alot of people get screwed over for long periods and can't get their money out.

Pretty wild that someone knicked a defunct special school domain to pretend to look like a very dodgy casino to try and push people to click on links to other dodgy casinos which all turn out to link to magicwin, which is the dodgiest a casino can possibly be as its a 100% scam

On the topic of their licence, when I did an investigation into these sites and the platform they run on, MemoCasino was owned by IntellogixSoft which got approved for Curacao GCB licences. Their sister sites xtraspin and kingshill them, with the right vpn you can probably find memocasinos. They hide it to UK players ofcourse though. I was very disappointed when I saw their name on the list of approved companies.

I seen they were owned by IntellogixSoft. I seen they were owned by another company but I've lost the page where I seen it. Does any one know how to get the details of a website called maths8.com I wanna see who's behind it.

 

[mulven]

I seen they were owned by IntellogixSoft. I seen they were owned by another company but I've lost the page where I seen it. Does any one know how to get the details of a website called maths8.com I wanna see who's behind it.

It might have been linked to one of the other companies mentioned here: Memo casino - Casinomeister Forum

Could also be a costa rican proxy or similar that are sometimes used when hiding the curacao licence (usually ends in SRL)

I wouldn't bother yourself with maths8.com, has nothing to do with the casino. Just some weird affiliate marketing SEO w*nk.

 

[Muzza198342]

It might have been linked to one of the other companies mentioned here: Memo casino - Casinomeister Forum

Could also be a costa rican proxy or similar that are sometimes used when hiding the curacao licence (usually ends in SRL)

I wouldn't bother yourself with maths8.com, has nothing to do with the casino. Just some weird affiliate marketing SEO w*nk.

On that maths8.com when you click on Memo Casino review it puts you through to that spalding specials school

 

[mulven]

On that maths8.com when you click on Memo Casino review it puts you through to that spalding specials school

It's a damp squib. There are also posts for gay dating apps, adobe generate ai, other casino affiliate schemes. I don't know much about SEO but if there is no ownership relation its possible that the people behind the spaldingspecialschool front paid a small fee for this post.

 

[Muzza198342]

It's a damp squib. There are also posts for gay dating apps, adobe generate ai, other casino affiliate schemes. I don't know much about SEO but if there is no ownership relation its possible that the people behind the spaldingspecialschool front paid a small fee for this post.

Thanks for your information. I'll do a little more digging.

 

[Guntis]

I think Memo Casino might be ran by Chinese as online scam. I searched something and this site called maths8.com came up and had review on Memo Casino and has Chinese writing on it. So I search China online casino Scams and there's been alot of online casino Scams. I'm not 100% ill have to dig a little deep

How did you get that structured data up

I'm using a custom bookmarklet that shows me a website's structured data when clicked. There are also many Chrome extensions that can do a similar thing. You can also use Google's

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and it'll give you the same info.

This structured data is essentially for search engines and it's optional. If you run a business website, you can add more details like its name, phone, address, what you do or offer, etc. Don't assume that the info you see is all true, as a site owner can put anything they want there.

 

[Muzza198342]

Thanks for your information. I'll do a little more digging.

Can someone work this out is that Memo Casino trying to see itself on amazon. Not sure can't really work it out

 

[Muzza198342]

This might b Memo casino address

 

[mulven]

This might b Memo casino address

No that's the address of a hotel/room called memo suite.

I wouldn't base a thesis off a Google summary if I were you.

Can someone work this out is that Memo Casino trying to see itself on amazon. Not sure can't really work it out

That's not a real Amazon page, look at the url. It's even got the port in it or it won't work (8080).

Betflik is a Thai site, perhaps someone is trying to use memos name or vice versa for some reason. Not sure the advantage of faking an Amazon product page for a website...

You are going in the wrong direction anyways, you'd want to look up intellogixsoft and whatever they go by under their presumably Cyprus based payment processing entity. I went down a bit of a rabbit hole a while back and it seems like alot of casinos use the same agency to set up a Cyprus shell as I've begun recognising secretary names like "Christina Georgiou"

 

[Guntis]

Can someone work this out is that Memo Casino trying to see itself on amazon. Not sure can't really work it out

It's likely the first casino because they have a redirect that sends people to betflick (which actually could be betflix: dr-86.com). But the title is optimized for both casinos. Players often search for things like "casino name + login." And they're not selling anything - it's just auto-generated, keyword-rich nonsense made to get anyone who visits that page to click their links and be sent to a gambling site.

 

[Muzza198342]

No that's the address of a hotel/room called memo suite.

I wouldn't base a thesis off a Google summary if I were you.


That's not a real Amazon page, look at the url. It's even got the port in it or it won't work (8080).

Betflik is a Thai site, perhaps someone is trying to use memos name or vice versa for some reason. Not sure the advantage of faking an Amazon product page for a website...

You are going in the wrong direction anyways, you'd want to look up intellogixsoft and whatever they go by under their presumably Cyprus based payment processing entity. I went down a bit of a rabbit hole a while back and it seems like alot of casinos use the same agency to set up a Cyprus shell as I've begun recognising secretary names like "Christina Georgiou"

That could be it. Gotta research it

 

[Guntis]

This might b Memo casino address

Yeah, ignore that generative AI, it's a useless thing that misleads people. I would only rely on it when there is something definitive where an answer is singular, like what is the capital of the UK?

AI - post

 

[mulven]

That could be it. Gotta research it

Like guntis said, the AI will be falsely confident about whatever it says. Last time it said a hotel suite was a casino to you.

I feel bad letting you flail about.

Their shell Curacao address is Schottegatweg Oost 10 Unit 1-9, Bon Bini Business Center, Curaçao and their director is another company called Kurason Trust Curaçao N.V. which is connected to various casinos such as tusk and luckykong. It's more likely that Kurason offers a service to casinos looking to have a base in Curacao (required for licence) rather than these guys being the owner.