Online casinos are using streamers with house money ?

[andrewl]

First of all i dont know if this is the right place to do this if its wrong i am sorry.

But have anyone seen this ?.

i mean i know the house always win but this is just wrong .

Would be nice to hear what others think about the topic.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Been going on for years mate!! Where have you been!!!??

 

[andrewl]

guess i have been "sleeping"

Been going on for years mate!! Where have you been!!!??

When you say it like that i feel like i have lived under a rock.

 

[satchnz]

Well it depends on who you talk to but it “supposedly” goes something like this:

• Some streamers play solely with play money (e,g. Roshtein)
• Some get paid large sums by the casino they represent, but have an obligation to pump a lot of it back into the casino (e.g. Trainwreckstv).
• Some have deposit bonuses that regular gamblers like you and I cannot get (e.g. CasinoDaddy with their 300% deposit bonuses)
• Some gamble with their own money but get rakeback at a percentage that the regular gambler cannot get (e.g. ColonelNZ gets 50% back on total losses)
• Some gamble completely with their own money without any extra help from the casinos (e.g. any streamer that is betting low stakes)

A lot of casino streamers also push affiliate codes that give you a slightly better first deposit bonus, but the streamer gets a cut of your lifetime losses.

I’m sure there are other scenarios that I haven’t covered here, but others may be able to chime in.

 

[satchnz]

@L&L-Jan hey! My brain isn’t AI!

Were you in on Train’s giveaway today? It was the first time I entered as I was bored and had nothing else to do…

 

[L&L-Jan]

Were you in on Train’s giveaway today? It was the first time I entered as I was bored and had nothing else to do…

i had it playing on the background but wasn't really watching, i don't participate to be fair. Probably lot more peeps in his community who need it and I don't.

I actually always have train on when he is streaming, makes the working day a bit more fun too

 

[geordiecolin]

 

[satchnz]

i had it playing on the background but wasn't really watching, i don't participate to be fair. Probably lot more peeps in his community who need it and I don't.

I actually always have train on when he is streaming, makes the working day a bit more fun too

Yeah I normally have a streamer on in the background while I work too. I just happened to be watching at the right time to enter his giveaway for the first time. Probably won’t bother again.

 

[BillyGoldblum]

I streamed and had an active channel.

Most casino streamers (98%) are playing with casino money to make their account look real. After the wager is completed they are allowed to cashout a portion of it (usually $200 per stream) and the rest the casino takes back.

Once I reached 100 viewers per stream, I was approached by various accreddited and non accreddited casinos to stream and most casinos that worked with all those streamers offered me the same deal as them. Some affiliate managers even named them "we will give you the same deal as roshtein, casino daddy. Max 3x cashout 50% commission"



A couple of the accreddited and licensed casinos were better though. If you see someone playing on a super legit casino with a license and reputation, chances are they are playing with real money.

Crypto and offshore, chances are its fake money or a cap on cashouts.

A lot of the crypto casinos would create an ewallet for streamers who requested it. I was told by various casinos "we will set up a ghost ewallet so if viewers ask to see your cashout, you have some proof to provide them".

Alot of the casinos offering me sneaky deals also wanted me to sign a non disclosure

If someone is hanging around the $1-$2 bets and their emotions seem real, good chance they are legit.

If you see a streamer doing nothing but $5+ bets, chances are it isnt real. Some of these casinos hire actors too. I was sent job offerings with description (genesis global hired actors and got caught)

Viewbotting is also massive. They buy bots to increase their viewer count and be at the top of the list. That is how they grow their channel and after awhile they no longer need to viewbot. Now that they reeled in 500+ viewers.. it just grows from there -- along with the grift.


Not here to argue. If you are a fanboy of your streamer. That's fine. I have no reason to argue.

I dealt with all these casinos and affiliate managers daily for years.

 

[SpinUk]

What made you give up the channel?

 

[BillyGoldblum]

Canada Ontario licensing changes. Also, got bored.

 

[andrewl]

Thanks for inputs guys.

 

[slaman29]

Yeah, it was impossible for me to fall for it. First saw them on ads years ago. People 'hitting jackpots' and screaming with friends around. Didn't have proof then but always thought it had to be fake. Who wants their friends to know they're rich?

 

[ritae]

A big fallout from this video, including big streamers from Vegas. I've always been suspicious of a few who somehow manage to win jackpots every day on the strip where RTP can be as low as 76%.

There is now a influx of Russian women pretending to stream from real casinos in Georgia. The reality is they are in a back room of the casino with house money.

Happy that MrHandPay called out Train, Xposed and the twat in the hat Roshtein.

 

[Milaroy]

Some streamers are definitely playing with their own deposits. But there are also plenty who are on deals with casinos where they either get refunded losses or are given a balance to play with.