Bonus wagering strategies

[Spinaldo]

Hi

How would wager a 1500 € bonus 10 times?

Would you bet big and hope for a big hit? (Max allowed bet size 6 €)
Or would you bet smaller, 1 - 3 euros and hope for more smaller scores?

 

[jontywills]

One line 6 euro max bet on a 96% or higher rtp slot. There are ev calculators out there you can use.

 

[Slottery]

One line 6 euro max bet on a 96% or higher rtp slot. There are ev calculators out there you can use.

Most of these calculators are just next to useless as most don't make any adjustments based on volatility, hit frequency and other numbers but just blindly counted with RTP which give nice theoretical EV but with for this small amount of spins you do to complete wagering, only RTP alone is not really helpful.

 

[satchnz]

This is a great question. Looking forward to seeing some more suggestions.

 

[Jasminebed]

10x wager is great, is there a max cashout? And is the bonus cashable?
If the bonus is cashable, I would play small stakes, 60cents to $2, depending how it is going, especially if there is a max cashout.
If the bonus is not cashable, I'd probably start higher, at least $1

Definitely don't play $6 to begin with. Even with $1500, that can disappear quickly. And if the bonus does have a max cashout, it would be a bummer to win huge and not be able to cash it out.

 

[incrediblestuff]

One line 6 euro max bet on a 96% or higher rtp slot. There are ev calculators out there you can use.

Most of these calculators are just next to useless as most don't make any adjustments based on volatility, hit frequency and other numbers but just blindly counted with RTP which give nice theoretical EV but with for this small amount of spins you do to complete wagering, only RTP alone is not really helpful.

On top of what Slottery said, be careful with that strat, there are plenty of bonus T&C's that specifically forbid that (per maximum coinsize allowed) so make sure you read the fine print...

Whatever Bonus WR, i mostly just play my usual suspects, which are mostly the high/extremely volatility slots such as DOA, DOA2, Lil Devil, Jammin Jars, any and all Nolimit Games of late, etc.

Specifically keep the betsize modest, say 1 euro per spin on a 1500 balance, as with these slots, if you hit a really good one, that is more than enough to give you a fair chance of making WR.

Mind you: some of the slots i mentioned do appear on certain T&C's as excluded. or as 'not counting towards WR', so again, make sure to read the fineprint.

I usually don''t even get Bonus Money anymore, as the places i play the most give me those bonuses you unlock by wagering your own cash, and when you do, the bonus is added as cash (so you don't have it as extra balance when you start the session)

I.e deposit 100, get 50 bonus but only after you wagered your own 100,- between 15 to 30 times, and when you do, its umlocked, to claim as cash. I really prefer this format, especially since i can play whatever i want, do bonus-buys, big bets and whatever.

Surely depends on the Casino/loyalty level, but this is the case for me...

Good luck with the WR!

 

[Kroffe]

On top of what Slottery said, be careful with that strat, there are plenty of bonus T&C's that specifically forbid that (per maximum coinsize allowed) so make sure you read the fine print...

Whatever Bonus WR, i mostly just play my usual suspects, which are mostly the high/extremely volatility slots such as DOA, DOA2, Lil Devil, Jammin Jars, any and all Nolimit Games of late, etc.

Specifically keep the betsize modest, say 1 euro per spin on a 1500 balance, as with these slots, if you hit a really good one, that is more than enough to give you a fair chance of making WR.

Mind you: some of the slots i mentioned do appear on certain T&C's as excluded. or as 'not counting towards WR', so again, make sure to read the fineprint.

I usually don''t even get Bonus Money anymore, as the places i play the most give me those bonuses you unlock by wagering your own cash, and when you do, the bonus is added as cash (so you don't have it as extra balance when you start the session)

I.e deposit 100, get 50 bonus but only after you wagered your own 100,- between 15 to 30 times, and when you do, its umlocked, to claim as cash. I really prefer this format, especially since i can play whatever i want, do bonus-buys, big bets and whatever.

Surely depends on the Casino/loyalty level, but this is the case for me...

Good luck with the WR!

Yes, usually when its €5 max bet, they usually add that its also max €0.5 or maybe €1 per line.
So thats something to watch out for.

I wonder what gives you the biggest chance of beating the bonus, i mean from a mathematical point of view.
If you do €5/spin and hit a 1000x bonus it should be smooth sailing from there.
But €5/spin means you only have 300x stake to work with before your balance is at 0.
If you do €1 per spin you have 1500x stake, so alot more spins to find the big hits you need to beat wagering.

Ive never taken a bonus with the intent to 'make money' or whatever you want to call it, so i usually just play the slots i like playing.
I dont think i would want to grind a slot i didnt like playing just because it gave me a slightly bigger chance of beating the wagering.
Id say just play the slots you like, maybe throw in some high volatile ones if your normal go-to slots are low volatile ones.

 

[gormack82]

wow 1500 euro bonus with only 10x WR? gimme some of that action
I usually do smaller bets because, as Kroffe mentioned, more spins is more chances at that big win that you need to beat the WRs

 

[Spinaldo]

10x wager is great, is there a max cashout? And is the bonus cashable?
If the bonus is cashable, I would play small stakes, 60cents to $2, depending how it is going, especially if there is a max cashout.
If the bonus is not cashable, I'd probably start higher, at least $1

Definitely don't play $6 to begin with. Even with $1500, that can disappear quickly. And if the bonus does have a max cashout, it would be a bummer to win huge and not be able to cash it out.

No max cash out. Bonus is cashable. In addition 100 free spins worth 0.5c each.

No stupid fine print rules, a fantastic offer for customers from Estonia.

So far my strategy has been start big and if my balance goes below 600 €, switch to smaller bets.

That means even if i lose 7/10 times, the 3 profitable sessions far outweigh the losses.

 

[Davey86]

No max cash out. Bonus is cashable. In addition 100 free spins worth 0.5c each.

No stupid fine print rules, a fantastic offer for customers from Estonia.

So far my strategy has been start big and if my balance goes below 600 €, switch to smaller bets.

That means even if i lose 7/10 times, the 3 profitable sessions far outweigh the losses.

So you already have a strategy regardless of the response?

 

[Spinaldo]

So you already have a strategy regardless of the response?

I have A strategy. There's more than one way to fry an egg. I am very curious to learn about other ideas and maybe mix things up.

 

[Vegasbum]

Here is a strategy I have used with much success. Find the minimum stake on a slot. Lets say it is 20 cents.

You do 25 spins at 20 cents. If you hit the free spins you should be ahead and move on to the next slot. If you do not hit the free spins or you are down you now bet 40 cents for 25 spins...same rules apply. You keep raising you bet to double or as close as you can. Anytime you get the free spins you move on and you should be ahead. If at anytime you are ahead but have not hit free spins you start over at 20 cents. The money is in the feature and this gives you lots of spins to hit it. So your bets would be say 20 cents, 40 cents 80 cents, 1.60, 3 dollars and lastly 5 or 6 dollars what ever is available. Buy moving up in money the feature becomes more valuable if you hit it later like at say 3 dollars.

If after all these spins you don't get the feature accept your loss and move on to the next slot. I don't play any high volatile slots as I need lots of features.

 

[neon claws]

Here is a strategy I have used with much success. Find the minimum stake on a slot. Lets say it is 20 cents.

You do 25 spins at 20 cents. If you hit the free spins you should be ahead and move on to the next slot. If you do not hit the free spins or you are down you now bet 40 cents for 25 spins...same rules apply. You keep raising you bet to double or as close as you can. Anytime you get the free spins you move on and you should be ahead. If at anytime you are ahead but have not hit free spins you start over at 20 cents. The money is in the feature and this gives you lots of spins to hit it. So your bets would be say 20 cents, 40 cents 80 cents, 1.60, 3 dollars and lastly 5 or 6 dollars what ever is available. Buy moving up in money the feature becomes more valuable if you hit it later like at say 3 dollars.

If after all these spins you don't get the feature accept your loss and move on to the next slot. I don't play any high volatile slots as I need lots of features.

This is martingale, the first strategy any gambler comes up with, will only work if you have more money than the casino, won't work when Max bets are involved, is specifically forbidden in many t&C's and is basically A Bad Idea (you can end up betting $1000 just too make a 20c profit).

I'm answer to the op's q; the best strategy for wagering is always max bet on high volatility and pray, then on win, if there's no terms forbidding it (there often is) reduce bet to complete wager on low volatility/high RTP slot.

 

[Vegasbum]

I have no idea where you get 1000 dollars. It is much cheaper than flat betting your money away. I have done this for 22 years and never has a casino refused to pay me.

You can pray all you want, I will continue to make money doing it my way.

 

[neon claws]

I have no idea where you get 1000 dollars

Pretty simple:
Let's simplify it to roulette Red/Black (assuming a mythical 100% RTP) - start bet $1 and double until you hit black, can't lose right?
bet $1, red - double up
bet $2, red - double up
bet $4, red - double up
etc. for 7 more iterations
bet $1024, black!

How much have you made from your $1024 wager?
$1.

If you'd had less than $1000 bankroll, you would have lost everything, trying to make $1.

Gambling in this manner means you usually win a little, but when you do lose, it's more than all those little wins made up.

 

[KasinoKing]

No max cash out. Bonus is cashable. In addition 100 free spins worth 0.5c each.
No stupid fine print rules, a fantastic offer for customers from Estonia.
So far my strategy has been start big and if my balance goes below 600 €, switch to smaller bets.
That means even if i lose 7/10 times, the 3 profitable sessions far outweigh the losses.

Nice terms!

If you're just trying to cash-out as much of the bonus as possible, then I would say play modest bets (around €1) on very low variance games with the highest RTPs you can find. e.g. games like Jack Hammer 2, Finn and the Swirly Spin, etc.
With only a x10 turnover, you are pretty much guaranteed to not bust out!

But that is rather boring, so if you're happy with your strategy - stick with it

KK

 

[satchnz]

Pretty simple:
Let's simplify it to roulette Red/Black (assuming a mythical 100% RTP) - start bet $1 and double until you hit black, can't lose right?
bet $1, red - double up
bet $2, red - double up
bet $4, red - double up
etc. for 7 more iterations
bet $1024, black!

How much have you made from your $1024 wager?
$1.

That’s my fail safe roulette strategy! Or is it safe fail?

 

[Vegasbum]

Neon Claws is talking bets made on even money bets and I am talking slots. I agree on even money bets it would be a foolish system. I am talking slots so there is no cap on how much you can win on any spin. On roulette it would be suicide.

 

[Kroffe]

On slots there is also no minimum return.
The reason martingale kind of works on roulette is that you know what the return is when you win, so by continuously doubling your bet, you know you will profit once your color shows up.

I say kind of works, because you need an unlimited amount of money and a casino without any sort of limits for it to really work.

Problem with using a similar system on slots is that once you have gone from 20c to 40c to 80c etc whenever the feature lands, it can still give a zero pay.
So saying the feature becomes more valuable later on when the stakes are higher is not necessarily true.

20-40-80-1.60-3.20-.6.40
Thats just 150 spins, which pretty much every slot out there, even low volatile ones can easily do without giving a feature.
Just like the martingale system on roulette, this one probably works well, until it doesnt.

 

[Vegasbum]

Pretty simple:
Let's simplify it to roulette Red/Black (assuming a mythical 100% RTP) - start bet $1 and double until you hit black, can't lose right?
bet $1, red - double up
bet $2, red - double up
bet $4, red - double up
etc. for 7 more iterations
bet $1024, black!

How much have you made from your $1024 wager?
$1.

If you'd had less than $1000 bankroll, you would have lost everything, trying to make $1.

Gambling in this manner means you usually win a little, but when you do lose, it's more than all those little wins made up.

I am playing sots man...not an even bet game. You ask me how much I made on my $1024 wager...HUH?? The max bet he can make is $6 dollars. I am playing for a feature and you have no idea how much can be made in a feature I am betting 25 spins on each bet....not doubling after each spin. I know what a marty system is and people use it on games like roulette NOT slots.

Please go back and read my first post so you understand before you criticize.

 

[Slottery]

I am playing sots man...not an even bet game. You ask me how much I made on my $1024 wager...HUH?? The max bet he can make is $6 dollars. I am playing for a feature and you have no idea how much can be made in a feature I am betting 25 spins on each bet....not doubling after each spin. I know what a marty system is and people use it on games like roulette NOT slots.

Please go back and read my first post so you understand before you criticize.

So if you end up having no feature in 150 spins, you have already reached max bet (you have doubled your bet size 6 times at this stage and playing 12.80 per spin) allowed in this bonus in question and ending up to play with quite high stakes, don't you ever get a feature that pays you near to 0 or 1-10 times? That would still make you lose quite a lot.

Really don't get how that double your bet size after every 25 spins would make your odds to win or complete wagering anyhow better than just using same bet size all the time?

Would be interesting to see some maths why this would give you advantage compare to using same betsize or just randomly changing it higher and lower based on your feelings of next round?

 

[curremon]

Win big = profit

 

[neon claws]

Win big = profit

The best strategy.

 

[lord flashheart]

Here is a strategy I have used with much success. Find the minimum stake on a slot. Lets say it is 20 cents.

You do 25 spins at 20 cents. If you hit the free spins you should be ahead and move on to the next slot. If you do not hit the free spins or you are down you now bet 40 cents for 25 spins...same rules apply. You keep raising you bet to double or as close as you can. Anytime you get the free spins you move on and you should be ahead. If at anytime you are ahead but have not hit free spins you start over at 20 cents. The money is in the feature and this gives you lots of spins to hit it. So your bets would be say 20 cents, 40 cents 80 cents, 1.60, 3 dollars and lastly 5 or 6 dollars what ever is available. Buy moving up in money the feature becomes more valuable if you hit it later like at say 3 dollars.

If after all these spins you don't get the feature accept your loss and move on to the next slot. I don't play any high volatile slots as I need lots of features.

150 spins isn't that many to hit a bonus even on low-med volatility games, especially on games that have adjustable RTPs. All the low volatility games that are not on max available RTP are just awful now. Games that were once good for grinding out bonuses now do more dead spins than Eye of Horus.

Also, why move on immediately after a feature? some games chuck in bonuses on a regular basis. Classic NetEnts like Bloodsuckers & Steam tower bonus on a regular basis. Bloodsuckers when it's constantly landing the coffin picker bonus is usually worth staying on until you hit the 1000 coffin.
Steam tower regularly keeps landing bonuses as well, they're usually crap (0x - 20x) As soon as you hit something above 20x that steampunk hipster then sods off.