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Utterly grim playing from the UK now

cheekymonkey

cheekymonkey

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Not sure about any other UK players, but it's becoming almost impossible to play from the UK now. As soon as you hit the one hour of playing mark, pop ups stating this is a sign of problem gambling. Even with small deposit limits I had one casino saying that even though your deposit limits are small AND you are not losing, spending time away from family and friends is not good and is a sign of problem gambling. This is all after just one or two hours of play.

What is the point of keeping UK players? They may as well ban us completely now, as it's becoming a very unpleasant experience anyway and all the fun has completely been taken away.

Big brother, nanny state nonsense crap.

Yuk.
 
The writing was on the wall when they removed autoplay and brought in imo these ridiculous overbearing source of wealth requirements, which don't even border on intrusive, they ARE intrusive.

Added to the fact you are expected to provide your very personal financial information to an online casino, with in some cases complete un-redacted bank statements. Equivalent to what you are asked for when applying for a mortgage for a property. It is nuts.

But it will only get worse, especially if the current government manages to push Digital ID onto us all. Company Directors already have to comply in this regard.

Regulation is good, protecting players is a force for good. Removing the ability to reverse your withdrawals an A* move. But over regulation and telling you what you can or cannot do. Well, it feels like we are further heading into a dystopian nightmare.

I wonder when this government will move to 'try' and outlaw vpn's?
 
i couldnt agree more,last night at bingo.com after signing up after a few hours they logged me out for 30 minutes,when i went back after about 10 minutes they logged me out for 1 hour,its a joke takes all the enjoyment out of it,they might aswell just shut the lot down and do us all a big favour,yes when the fun stops then stop but with these stupid limits and nanny checks etc its never going to be fun no more
 
Webzcas said:
Company Directors already have to comply in this regard.
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Whilst this is off topic and not linked to gambling.

Working in this industry, this is very important. You would not believe the amount of bogus companies set up in the UK with made up directors etcetc, because they did not need to be verified.

This is a good thing.
 
SYPlayer95 said:
Whilst this is off topic and not linked to gambling.

Working in this industry, this is very important. You would not believe the amount of bogus companies set up in the UK with made up directors etcetc, because they did not need to be verified.

This is a good thing.
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Is it though, as there are other ways to verify your identity rather than doing so digitally. This is just digital id being pushed through via the back door.
 
What's annoying is when you receive promotions (by email) encouraging you to deposit, turn over an 'x' amount or compete in a race.

These missions are becoming impossible for the UK player, as these will eat in to your playing time and you will then be picked out for a being a total degenerate loser that is allegedly ignoring all your family and friends.

What if I don't have family or friends? I could just be a very happy recluse that just likes to play slots.

I realise that the government/UKGC are on the casinos backs, but as Webzcas states, it's become overbearingly intrusive now and there's nothing worse than receiving an email from a casino 'safer gambling' department (signed by either Tom, Dick or Harry and when you respond you never get the same person again) asking you for your past 6 months bank statements, work history and how many houses you own.

They should all pull out of the UK altogether and stop winding us up.
 
Very true this, Betfred have a promotion to earn up to 200 free spins 1 spin for every £10 wagered. So one night i was playing there for a few hours and it logged me out because i had been playing too long, And i wasn't allowed to log back in for an hour.

That was the last time i played at betfred!

Come play are games and lose your money, But dont play too long now else we will call you an addict and lock your account. Such a stupid rule they have introduced.
 
So far high RTP Blackjack games and the like are still available, but over the last few years bad rulesets have been creeping in more and more. I wouldn't be surprised to see French roulette completely disappear, as well as full pay Jacks or Better video poker. Maybe even single zero roulette (no French) may disappear, like in the FOBTs
 
Agree with that can we not be allowed to spend time playing slots they don’t moan if you go and sit in the pub I think the spark has gone due to the rules and it’s hard to win anything now sites just close your account the minute you question them and some of the games have got so boring same as a lot of sites
 
When I play, I play over several hours (depending on how well my deposit goes). But I'll play a couple of slots, then get up to take a break and do other things before returning. Sometimes my account will be logged in for 2-3 hours with only maybe 45 mins of actually spin time.

When I am playing on a crypto site, I leave myself logged in the whole time. But on the odd occasion that I play on a UKGC regulated site, I always log out when taking a break to avoid the whole "you're a problem gambler based on the one data point we've decided to look at".
 
I am sure this was discussed some time ago, but once a player was questioned why he was playing at something like 2am in the morning as this could be seen as having a gambling problem. Really? When I finish my shift at work at midnight, 2am in the morning is the equivalent of 7pm to a 9 till 5 worker
 
interlog said:
I am sure this was discussed some time ago, but once a player was questioned why he was playing at something like 2am in the morning as this could be seen as having a gambling problem. Really? When I finish my shift at work at midnight, 2am in the morning is the equivalent of 7pm to a 9 till 5 worker
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You should see the look my mate gets when he finishes his 6pm-6am shift and goes to the local shop for a 4pack of beer!
 
interlog said:
I am sure this was discussed some time ago, but once a player was questioned why he was playing at something like 2am in the morning as this could be seen as having a gambling problem. Really? When I finish my shift at work at midnight, 2am in the morning is the equivalent of 7pm to a 9 till 5 worker
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Yes I remember that. It was @justdoit who was questioned by MrQ if memory serves me correctly. Utter madness. As I said in that thread, if they don't like people playing "after hours", then close your damn site for the night like the National Lottery does.
 
interlog said:
I am sure this was discussed some time ago, but once a player was questioned why he was playing at something like 2am in the morning as this could be seen as having a gambling problem. Really? When I finish my shift at work at midnight, 2am in the morning is the equivalent of 7pm to a 9 till 5 worker
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I get this BS from Casino Rewards all the time. Nonsense such as....

"Hi Martin, still playing after midnight?"

Erm...no. I JUST made a deposit at 12.01am and haven't even STARTED playing yet, you bunch of do-gooding, nosey parkering, joy killing, nanny stating.......

.....Hold on a minute. I think I am turning into* Inspector Grim from the Thin Blue Line.



* AS IF!!! I got there a long, long, long time ago.....

What was the question again?
 
Oh yeah....here's another GEM of a popup from CR....

"Hi Martin, time to think about responsible gambling?"

This was immediately after making a deposit, it even came up before the swift banking page had confirmed the deposit was successful and that the funds had been added to my account!
I mean really, CR? Jumping the gun a little bit, aren't we?

Here's the really annoying part though. It was a deposit that was.....

1. made in the middle of a weekday afternoon (so that puts me in the category known as "old granny who spends too much time in the local bingo hall"):rolleyes:

2. for a mere £25, when my monthly deposit limit at CR (which is set by CR themselves btw!) is £700.:rolleyes:

3. my first deposit at ANY CR site in SIX WEEKS :rolleyes:

I mean to say, what an insane RAP SHEET that is!! Like there can only be one possible reaction to my deposit that CR's RG team can have, isn't there?.....

SET OFF ALL THE SIRENS!!! HERE COMES MARTIN THE PROBLEM GAMBLER!! PROBLEM GAMBLER!!!
WE HAVE A PROBLEM GAMBLER IN THE BUILDING AT 2.30PM ON A WEDNESDAY!!!!
PLEASE GO TO DEF CON ONE!!! PROBLEM GAMBLER!!!
WE HAVE EYES ON THE PROBLEM GAMBLER!!! HOLD YOUR POSITIONS!!
PROBLEM GAMBLER WHO IS TOTALLY UNARMED AND COMPLETELY HARMLESS, BUT YOU JUST NEVER KNOW THESE DAYS!!!
CALL THE POLICE!!! CALL THE FIRE BRIGADE!!! NEE NAW NEE NAW!!!
WHERE'S THE TEAR GAS IN CASE MARTIN REACTS TO A SHITE AMBER FEATURE WITH A MILD MUTTERING OF THE WORDS "OH BOLLOCKS TO THAT THEN, YOU F***PIG?!?!?!

Six words immediately spring to mind. The first one is JUST. The last four are RIGHT OFF, CASINO REWARDS (should maybe replace the W with a T)....

Have an educated guess as to what the second word might be :mad::rolleyes:
 
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That's bad, my dude. They could have at least been more subtle.


Hey, Martin, are you sure you don't need to take a shit before you play? Don't worry, we'll keep you logged in while you let a log out. You could also use the time to think about responsible gambling.

Please confirm .

-Yes I want to stay logged in while I'm taking a shit-

-Actually, log me out, I could do with a shit and a good think about responsible gambling-

-No, I'm ready to play. I'll shit later-
 
My experience today using the best casino the UK has.

Fancied a sess, andc was winning after 2 hours of slotting.

Thanks Slots Temple, hight RTP, but this shit makes me want to run a mile from using you.

I already use a VPN and Pinnacle for sports betting without the timeouts, deposit and withdrawal drama, and will now use similar for slots play.

The UK is a joke country. In every aspect its cooked
 

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I have dared to moan @Slots Temple over a game and now I have had to answer if I have a problem can we not just enjoy playing and they have locked my account funny how they never had a problem before taking my deposits and that’s meant to be the best one treat customers like crap
 
megadam said:
Guarantee the next thing that'll be implemented is a pop-up when you up the stakes on a slot.

Doreen running hot till she's bombarded by the safer gambling police because she's threatened to hunt for the D on Bonanza on 40p. Can't be having that!
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What’s the bet that eventually you’ll need a 24 hour cooling off period before raising your bet is allowed, or some dumb shit like that.
 
Disgusting, especially when having a profitable session. What's even worse, is if there was a human actually watching you play and they still set the timer even though they could see you were on a winning streak. Hopefully that shit is automated, otherwise that would infuriate me massively.

Yuk, yuk, yuk.
 

Pinny lets you withdraw as a UK citizen? So that part of their T&C is just for show then..
 
Some random thoughts on current play in the UK and Crypto play...

So, yes, playing slots in the UK now the new tax rules have come in has made it even more grim than ever. RTPs have gone to crap in a number of places, removal of anything more than 96%, even stuff like Bonanza down to 94% in places, and Extra Chilli a ridiculous 91%! No reward offerings worth wasting your time with either.

You need to pick and choose very carefully if you even want to bother any more.

Crypto - I had a go at one this weekend. Initially a bit hesitant with moving money from wallet to casino, but it did work. However, there were drawbacks that I really didn't like. Transaction fees, no good for those with smaller budgets. RTPs were decent, BUT... there are a lot of "safer gambling" tools the UK brought in that were really good IMO.

Bonus Buys - I hate that they are a thing, getting rid of the in the UK was an excellent move. Predatory on cryptos unless you're playing with a large budget.

Withdrawal cancellations/reversals - that's the worst thing. Unless a WD is instant, anyone with the slightest bit of "tilt" in their head is gonna reverse and lose everything.

In my opinion, if you're a low budget/low roller in the UK, I'd keep away from Cryptos. Choose your UK sites carefully.

Personally, my monthly slot budget is gonna get cut massively, most likely with a view to knocking it on the head entirely soon.

IMO, the UK had it right 2 years ago, but it's gone way too far now.
 
satchnz said:
Yes I remember that. It was @justdoit who was questioned by MrQ if memory serves me correctly. Utter madness. As I said in that thread, if they don't like people playing "after hours", then close your damn site for the night like the National Lottery does.
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Lol, yeah remember this situation well.

Used to finish 5am in the casino in Dudley and grab myself a couple of Tennants Extra or XXXX for the double bus journeys home.

Got some right looks and tuts etc :p
 
lucks_maximus said:
Pinny lets you withdraw as a UK citizen? So that part of their T&C is just for show then..
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A couple of years ago they closed my account because they weren't offering their services anymore to Belgian customers. So it's hard to believe that they don't allow players from the UK per their T&C but lets you withdraw to a UK bank account. I guess it has to be a "workaround".
 
CongoGB said:
In my opinion, if you're a low budget/low roller in the UK, I'd keep away from Cryptos. Choose your UK sites carefully.
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I would challenge that opinion. In my view, offshore crypto sites are perfect for the low roller. I am just that and I tend to fly under most radars in this space. My $50 deposits and $100-200 withdrawals neither bat an eyelid, nor do they really bring any attention given the low amounts.

Fees are also minimal to non existent if you know what you are doing.

But I agree that crypto isn’t for everyone.
 
I used to deposit in dollars and it cost about £1.50 in fees. But now i deposit in Solana and pay about 30p.

Just look at the 30p fee as a fee to pay for playing all the games you want with autoplay, turbo spins, bonus buys, etc. Which we can not do in the U.K anymore without these crypto joints.

I will pay 30p any day to play slots the way i want to play them over playing in the U.K with all those perks removed and lower RTP'S.
 
YouTubeSlots said:
I used to deposit in dollars and it cost about £1.50 in fees. But now i deposit in Solana and pay about 30p.

Just look at the 30p fee as a fee to pay for playing all the games you want with autoplay, turbo spins, bonus buys, etc. Which we can not do in the U.K anymore without these crypto joints.

I will pay 30p any day to play slots the way i want to play them over playing in the U.K with all those perks removed and lower RTP'S.
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Are SOL fees that high? The last time I paid 30c/30p in crypto fees was when I decided to have a couple of sessions using BTC recently.

If you want stability then I’d recommend using USDT on the Solana network. USDT will keep your balance stable, and using the Solana network to transfer it will cost you only 0.000005 SOL ($0.0004 last time I looked). Fees are paid using SOL so you will always need a tiny balance of Solana, but you cannot get much cheaper than that in the crypto world.

You’ll need to check if your crypto casino(s) accept USDT on the Solana network (not all do). Strangely, the one with the numbers accepts USDT(Sol) deposits, but won’t let you withdraw using the SOL network. In this case you need to withdraw USDT on the ETH network then convert it to USDT(Sol) separately (which attracts further fees).

Of course the casino may charge its own withdrawal fee but you cannot get around this.
 
YouTubeSlots said:
I used to deposit in dollars and it cost about £1.50 in fees. But now i deposit in Solana and pay about 30p.

Just look at the 30p fee as a fee to pay for playing all the games you want with autoplay, turbo spins, bonus buys, etc. Which we can not do in the U.K anymore without these crypto joints.

I will pay 30p any day to play slots the way i want to play them over playing in the U.K with all those perks removed and lower RTP'S.
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Not just yet as I'm pretty happy with my sessions and limits at L&L right now but if ever that day comes, I may ask you for "An Idiot's Guide" to getting safely setup with this.
 
I mean conversion fee mainly and add the withdrawal fee in if you win. Its under £2 in total, hardly can moan about a charge under £2 to play all the games with buys and autoplay etc.

I think what i meant to say is that i deposit USD via the Solana Network
 
YouTubeSlots said:
I mean conversion fee mainly and add the withdrawal fee in if you win. Its under £2 in total, hardly can moan about a charge under £2 to play all the games with buys and autoplay etc.

I think what i meant to say is that i deposit USD via the Solana Network
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I have never ever cashed any of my crypto for fiat so I forget about the conversion side of that…

I terms of your last comment, I’m not sure I understand sorry. Do you purchase and gamble with Solana?
 
I think the biggest thing with crypto for me was the safer gambling tools that are not there, especially the cancellation/reversal of withdrawals. That's just asking for trouble for anyone even remotely on the addiction scale.

People like that are also the most likely to go for the crypto sites in the first place.

So what the government and UKGC are doing here is putting more people in danger of losing a shedload of money in next to zero time.

Anyway, the state of everything on the UK side has really put me off playing slots now, which is probably a good thing for my bank balance in the end!!
 
satchnz said:
I have never ever cashed any of my crypto for fiat so I forget about the conversion side of that…

I terms of your last comment, I’m not sure I understand sorry. Do you purchase and gamble with Solana?
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Sorry i haven't dont the best job explaining. Basically i used to buy USD and send it. Now i buy SOL instead of USD and send that. It has lower fees then sending USD like i used to do.
 
lucks_maximus said:
Wow, thank god I'm in Canada.

I'm a strong, independent gambler, that don't need no casino to tell me how to live!
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It isnt nearly as bad as the UK thankfully.

Only thing that pisses me off is no autoplay.

I wouldnt surprised if Canada started this nonsense though. They seem to follow suit with the 'woke' countries.

They just banned social media here for 16 and under. Government control.

The UK is absolutely brutal what they are doing to the citizens in almost every regard. Hopefully for their sake, there is a government on stand by who will win next election and stop this insanity. Everyone on this side of the ocean is like wtf they doing over there. Used to be a place people may want to visit and travel to. Not anymore.
 
I'm a late night person, go to bed very late so playing at 1am is probably like most normal people playing at 9-10pm.

Several sites will give me popups saying that late night play is a sign of problems. I forget which one it is so don't want to say the wrong one but it will put up this warning along with a 3? minute countdown and I can't spin or click off until the timer runs out and I click I understand.

This isn't after 30 minutes or an hour or something this just randomly pops up doesn't matter if I'm winning or losing either.

Really is frustrating how much they're trying to treat us like children.
 
For the UK Players: Do your local brick and mortar venues wth slots or casinos put similar restrictions in place(ie taking ID/recording player hours/forcing use of a players card in a casino to track it etc).

Like is it easier to bet more money and higher volume in a bookie/pubs/casinos etc than online?
 
YouTubeSlots said:
Sorry i haven't dont the best job explaining. Basically i used to buy USD and send it. Now i buy SOL instead of USD and send that. It has lower fees then sending USD like i used to do.
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Yeah that’s what I originally thought you meant so all good. As I said above, if you purchase USDT and use the Solana network to transact it, you’ll pay next to no fees and your crypto balance will not fluctuate with crypto ups and downs.
 
teckiwi said:
For the UK Players: Do your local brick and mortar venues wth slots or casinos put similar restrictions in place(ie taking ID/recording player hours/forcing use of a players card in a casino to track it etc).

Like is it easier to bet more money and higher volume in a bookie/pubs/casinos etc than online?
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There's no casino near me, but from what I understand table games there are effectively limitless, slots limited to £5/spin

Brick and mortar Bookies and Amusement arcades are limited to £2 a spin, even for Blackjack.
 
I share some of your pain UK players. Being in Canada, especially in Ontario there is no autoplay, some casinos not all don't allow us to play with Pragmatic Play, No Limit, Evoplay and many others.

Some casinos will allow VPN just to be able to alternate the use of providers. A couple of casinos like Rootz (Wildz, Caxino, Spinz) have banned us! I gave them a few years of service and they did me dirty in the end!

Spinz was sssooo good that it allowed me to win 50 free spins at 10 EUR each from a random Discord contest when they were live streaming. I remember wagering about 15kx from the ridiculous 35x bonus but cashed out for $2500 CAD!

I'll miss those guys.....Filip, Adam, Maya, that bald guy forgot his name, that pretty blue eyed chick who's always loud and the other loud chick who viewers confuse her with Maya. 🤣
 
interlog said:
I am sure this was discussed some time ago, but once a player was questioned why he was playing at something like 2am in the morning as this could be seen as having a gambling problem. Really? When I finish my shift at work at midnight, 2am in the morning is the equivalent of 7pm to a 9 till 5 worker
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I got an email from some "safer gambling" team once, questioning why I had been playing at 3am and basically implying that I have some sort of problem (but it was worded very politely and with faux-care).
I replied back and apologised, telling them I didn't realise they were closed at that time :confused:
They responded with something along the lines of betting patterns and due diligence and all that bollocks, but I stood my ground and told them I'll play when I want - which will sometimes be 3am or otherwise, and that my only problem is a business taking my money and then questioning the manner or time of day in which I spend it. Tubes.
 
Lol that's funny they have never done that to me that site encourages you to deposit N log in everyday like no other they do pay out but the whole system is very clever in there favour the 48 hr wait to approve withdrawals and no weekend or public holiday payouts the slots go crazy right before a long weekend lmao
 


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